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Bed shaking/pushing from below every night

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Hey folks.

So my issue has been going on for a few months at least now, and it happens every single night, to the point where I'm usually not even scared by it. However all in all, it is rather annoying and I can't for the life of me figure out what's going on.

So, to start off, this does not matter whethere I sleep on my bed or on the couch. When I lie down to sleep, after 5-15 minutes, or if I happen to THINK about it (sounds crazy I know), the bed will begin to start off with tiny vibrations, then quickly evolve into what essentially feels like someone pushing up with their fists from under the matress. It's in random spots every night, also at random speeds and pressure. Sometimes the up and down feeling is on par with breathing, and sometimes it feels as fast as someone lightly punching the matress from below me. It'll happen at my head, my feet, my back, and my bottom, all randomly.

The weird thing is, if I can take my mind off of it, it seems to stop, only to come RIGHT back if I focus on thinking about it. I just recently figured this out, but I would bet anything in the world that it's not simply an imagined feeling in my mind.

I want to be extremely clear when I say this is not like I "kind" of feel something. If it's happening by my head, my vision will shake with each movement.

If my blanket is close to or touching the ground, it'll also feel as though someone is VERY slightly tugging at my blanket. Again, this is NOT an imagined feeling. They are both extremely clear every night.

At first I was terrified, but as it continued to happen every night, I just simply find it an annoyance now.

Honestly wonder if it's because spend a lot of time watching TV/anime on my computer. Maybe there's a ghost who has nothing to do so enjoys watching it too, and gets upset when I finally go to bed in the AM. (I know, sounds silly)

Anyway, if this could somehow stop I'd be so happy, sometimes it makes it tough to go to bed and I'm sick of wrapping myself in a cocoon with the blanket (don't like the feeling when I'm on the couch and the cushions are being pushed right at the crack between them)

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Has anyone else witnessed this happening? You need to document it somehow.

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I forgot the most important part. I'm completely and utterly wide awake when this happens every night. Someone else thought it was thought as well. Every half a year I'll experience sleep paralysis and it absolutely sucks. However I'm not even remotely close to falling asleep. When it happens I'll sit up in bed and try to feel for it with my hands or move to the couch. Or I'll simply yell at whatever is causing it or idiotically punch the spot. I even try to reason with whatever it is.

Sorry, would have said that to begin with.

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Has anyone else witnessed this happening? You need to document it somehow.

Sounds awful, and like Sweetpumper wrote, since this is reoccurring [often] can you document it somehow?

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I forgot the most important part. I'm completely and utterly wide awake when this happens every night. Someone else thought it was thought as well. Every half a year I'll experience sleep paralysis and it absolutely sucks. However I'm not even remotely close to falling asleep. When it happens I'll sit up in bed and try to feel for it with my hands or move to the couch. Or I'll simply yell at whatever is causing it or idiotically punch the spot. I even try to reason with whatever it is.

Sorry, would have said that to begin with.

There are different forms of sleep paralysis, I've had occasions that did not feel supernatural, but felt there was something just not quite right. I was awake for what felt like most the night, listening out and opening my eyes now and again just to make sure my door had not been moved. Then I woke up, it's as if I hadn't been asleep, almost as if I blinked from one reality to another. Then I woke up, I was lying there thinking 'this is weird, that was a dream within a dream!'. I lay there on my back and I knew it was sleep paralysis as I recognized some of the symptoms, then I could here someone snoring, and I realized it was me, then I woke up. All this time nothing changed in the room, I stayed in the same position, the blanket stayed the same the room looked exactly the same. I think I might actually open my eyes whilst in the state and looked about.

Now here is the important bit; during any of those times I thought I was awake but was not, then I could have drifted off into regular sleep and dreamt normal dreams. On awakening from the normal dream I would have no way of knowing that I had experienced sleep paralysis previous to that. Now lets say on the 2nd 'wake up' (still in sleep paralysis) something odd occurred e.g, I saw the door had been opened fully, I could then, still experiencing sleep paralysis, experience getting up and checking to make sure nothing was there then go back to bed and drop of to sleep and dream normally. On awakening, my memory would be of going to bed, being 100% awake and experiencing the fact that the door was opened and I had to get up and check and push it too again, getting back in to bed, not experiencing anything else weird and then falling asleep and dreaming.

How would you know that the door opening was not real? You can't. Unless you filmed the whole night and played it back. Now that you have read this you will hopefully remember it next time weird stuff is happening and you may be able to realize you are not awake.

It has taken me many years of experience and a lot of sleep paralysis occurrences to work all of this out myself.

Anyway as fate would have it, I was a bit 'manic', today and thought I would not sleep, so I've taken some medication. The effects kicked in awhile back and tying this has been a pain in the as. I probably have not explained it properly. Will check and add stuff tomorrow if needed. I need sleep now. Anyway, just film yourself in your bed, the play back will show nothing paranormal. Trust me, there is nothing moving your bed. If there is something caught on film, then for the love of God please let us know!

night night.

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Hrmm yeah I see what you're saying, but I can absolutely guarantee I'm awake. It happens then stops, happens then stops, while i'm say, watching an episode of family guy. I'm not even close to the point of falling asleep yet.

Now here's the issue I'm having with documentating it...

Like I said before, my vision will shake if it happens near my head, like someone is slightly pushing the matress under where my head is, but when it's happening by my feet or anywhere else, when I just look either at the spot or at my feet, I can't see any movement. To be fair, the only light is from the TV, but of course because of this one of my other ideas was that it was my body that was maybe twitching, or some weird explanation like that. To test it out, I stayed at a friends place a few times, but it didn't happen there.

My next step is to have a glass of water next to where i'm sleeping tonight, and when I feel it, I'm going to place the glass of water on the bed and look for trembling and what not.

(I actually originally thought a mouse or something had somehow gotten in there so I'm glad that's not the case!!)

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Hrmm yeah I see what you're saying, but I can absolutely guarantee I'm awake. It happens then stops, happens then stops, while i'm say, watching an episode of family guy. I'm not even close to the point of falling asleep yet.

Now here's the issue I'm having with documentating it...

Like I said before, my vision will shake if it happens near my head, like someone is slightly pushing the matress under where my head is, but when it's happening by my feet or anywhere else, when I just look either at the spot or at my feet, I can't see any movement. To be fair, the only light is from the TV, but of course because of this one of my other ideas was that it was my body that was maybe twitching, or some weird explanation like that. To test it out, I stayed at a friends place a few times, but it didn't happen there.

My next step is to have a glass of water next to where i'm sleeping tonight, and when I feel it, I'm going to place the glass of water on the bed and look for trembling and what not.

(I actually originally thought a mouse or something had somehow gotten in there so I'm glad that's not the case!!)

Ok, well seeing as how you are awake watching a TV show then I don't know what is happening but you are certainly not alone:- http://ehealthforum....ht-t136404.html

On that thread they blame everything from heart beating, demons, washing machines, old springs in the bed, aliens, ghosts etc.. But unfortunately many of the posts are very obvious and clear examples of sleep paralysis so it's a pretty mixed bag in there.

The fact it happened in your bed as well as your couch means it is not connected to your bed or bedroom, it is something to do with you. Just out of interest does your couch had springs in any of its construction?

Here is an interesting comment from the above mentioned site :-

".... update on my entry "shaking bed at night" - found out something last night about the bed shaking (my husband finally told me yesterday that I had been shaking the bed c. 4:00 a. m. - 5:00 a. m. about every night). He was playing his favorite computer game till quite late. All had been quiet. Then, right after he got into bed, I noticed a very subtle tremor. This would go on several seconds, then stop, then resume. Happened, like, six times. Then, when I got up around 2:00 a. m., he let out, very softly, ah ah ah ah ah ahhh. Later he said he hadn't felt anything. I think the shaking stuff comes from him. I've noticed other things, like he clears his throat more frequently than before, and when he's reading something or working a puzzle, his eyebrows may start going up and down. For a long time, his feet have wiggled during his naps. Seems fine, otherwise. Of course, I could be shaking, too, but I rather think he's it..." by someone called 'Floridanights'

( Read more: Bed shaking at night page 2 - Sleep Disorders Forum - eHealthForum http://ehealthforum....l#ixzz36OnIFVDb )

So someone is experiencing their partners shaking!!

Couple more questions I have;-

Whilst lying down, do you ever feel a sensation of falling?

Do you always lay down a certain way, i.e on you back?

Are you on any medications? (Feel free not to answer this one if it is personal)

What religion are you and do you practice it?

Has anyone died in your house? How do you know?

Also, another quote from the previously mentioned thread:-

".... I decided to experiment. Got my bottle of water from my nightstand and put in on my bed, while I stood beside the bed not touching it. The water in it was jiggling around at exactly the speed the bed was vibrating. (So not my imagination.) I put the bottle on my nightstand. Nothing...." by someone called 'ssml'

( Read more: Bed shaking at night page 4 - Sleep Disorders Forum - eHealthForum http://ehealthforum....l#ixzz36OqmOby5 )

Please experiment, make sure you have a flashlight, bottle of water, camera with a good resolution (ideally 2) if you use your phone make sure you go to setting and set best quality movie recording option.

Maybe try getting out of bed and pouring some uncooked dry rice on the middle of the mattress and see if it moves like it would on the skin of a drum.

Keep us posted with regular updates.

_EDIT_

Please go to page 6 on the above linked site, and look for a very long post by a user called 'tim024'.

If I was you I'd invest in a Carbon monoxide detector, even your experience is not connected to carbon monoxide it is still a good idea to have one. Every home should have a smoke alarm and a carbon monoxide detector/alarm

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Hope this guy didn't die?!

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Lol I'm alive! Sorry, I keep forgetting I made this post as what happens every night is such a common occurance.

I'll answer what I can to the best of my knowledge.

I've only ever felt the sensation of falling down while dreaming and falling in my dream. Besides that, I have not.

I always sleep on my back.

I'm Christian only in title, you could say. That was how I was raised, though I personally don't follow it or even agree with most of it.

I do not know if anyone has died here. The apartment complex, actually they are referred to as condos, have mostly older people living in them, or retired people in their 50's + . There could be a very high chance someone passed here in this apartment.

Last night while watching TV again, the second the feeling came to mind, it started happening. I even managed to make it occur beneath my head, by solely focusing on that thought. It's harder to stop though, as I need to completely get it out of my mind which is hard to do while it's happening.

I know this sounds ridiculous, where it seems I can control where it happens.. However, even if the thought "oh crap I hope it doesn't bug me tonight" will trigger it, so it's not as if I have complete control over it.

I've yet to experiment, as it happens when i'm in bed and ready to sleep, so during that time I just want to sleep through and am too lazy to set things up. However I'll try that tonight, as I want answers.

Of course it doesn't help that there's currently a tropical storm/hurricane warning going on right this minute. I think I may be following the rules of a horror movie way too closely, choosing a night like this to do it!!

Anyway, I'll post again tomorrow afternoon with either affirmation that the water shook or that we're back to square one.

Thank you all, by the way for taking me seriously. My family is stuck on sleep paraylsis regardless of how I try to convince them I'm wide awake, and my friends just joke about it. Sure, there's some funny aspects, but I want to be able to sleep soundly at night.

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I literally just registered an account to post on here (7th July 2014). I'm an 18 year-old student who does nothing more than gaming/socialising/being a general bum (lazy) outside of education. I have no medical history of any sort of psychological issues, in fact I am very healthy to say the least. I'm also shocked how recent this thread is so here I'll share what JUST happened to me:

Around an hour ago I was sitting on my bed with my laptop, my entire bed started to shake and I personally saw the corners of the mattresses lift up. My bottom lifted up into the air with the bed and I heard aggressive wood noises (the wooden planks under my mattress). The feeling was as if something was pushing me up from under my bed (almost punching like), even to where I got unstable and was moving from left to right unevenly with the bed lifting up and falling back down. - I kid you not when I say it was going really high up. It felt like an earthquake or someone trapped under my bed trying to get out. On that point too, my curtains (bed is next to the window) started to blow lightly too.

The whole thing lasted for around 10-15 seconds, with a 2-3 second gap in between (it happened twice). I know it wasn't an illusion, and I wasn't scared. I left my room and called for my mum.

Not sure what caused this, I've never experienced anything like this before.

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I dunno what is happening to you guys, the op said he was awake and watching TV so I don't think it was sleep paralysis, as he can control where it happens I think maybe it is some odd psychological phenomenon but I can't find a name for it anywhere. Just keep posting experiences you have, hopefully if more people start posting and we get enough info we can spot a pattern and get a step closer to what is going on. If you find other threads out there about the subject please link them here.

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I have a memory foam mattress so I know it wasn't springs causing my bed to 'gravitate.'

Not sure if this will help but I was listening to dubstep (music without lyrics just deep bass noises), and every time the bass 'dropped' my mattress jumped up. I told a friends on Facebook and he said this pretty much:

Looooool u trippin on some sound high?

Allow the joke

Was it some subliminal sound high in the track you was listening to? Im srs. Its possible.

You could've hallucinated it

I didn't hallucinate it was dubstep

just noises going wobwobwob

I even stopped the music

and it happened again

The sound high could be embedded in the background of the track

You couldn't have noticed it

I'm convinced I could not have 'tripped' to music, I've been listening to it for years and never has this happened before.

E: I also tried to redo the whole moment, like listen to the same song but nothing happened. I know this happened and it's legit because I have a laptop tray (put it on my lap) and the laptop fell out of it in my lap too. My brain can't just cause that to occur, this has been on my mind now for the past few hours I've been trying to analyse everything possible.

My parents are religious and recited prayers in my room.

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I dunno what is happening to you guys, the op said he was awake and watching TV so I don't think it was sleep paralysis, as he can control where it happens I think maybe it is some odd psychological phenomenon but I can't find a name for it anywhere. Just keep posting experiences you have, hopefully if more people start posting and we get enough info we can spot a pattern and get a step closer to what is going on. If you find other threads out there about the subject please link them here.

http://www.yourghost...php?story=18131 (found this)

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I wonder if in some people like you as you lie down and watch tv, or listen to music, although you are conscious and awake, part of your brain knows you are laying down on an item it associates with relaxation and sleep so part of you brain starts some part of the sleep sequence. My thinking is that most people would maybe start to snooze but for some reason your brain is different and overrides part of the sleep process. This then leads to the hallucination. But it's very odd that so many people have the same experience. It's like people that see shadow creatures tend to see very similar things and most people that get sleep paralysis experience the same feeling of dread and see the same types of entities in the room with them.

My other theory is a supernatural one, IF shadow creatures exist I have said in other threads that they may try to induce sleep paralysis and then negative feelings of fear, depression and dread. They then feed on the energy. But if you are mentally and physically healthy then they can't quiet get their hooks into your mind and the side effect is this strange occurrence you experience.

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I was concentrating on a game I was playing on my laptop, there's no way I had any tiresome/sleep in me. My initial thought was it was my cat under my bed just clawing beneath the mattress but when I started to jump I took my earphones out/laptop off and looked around and saw almost "bursts" coming up to my bed.

Excuse the poor drawing but this is how it was like

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Can you try catch it on film next time? I asked the OP to try and capture it on film as he can create the experience on demand I think. Hoping to see something. If nothing gets caught on film then that is also important so let us know about that too.

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What about some sort of nerve or sensory disorder?

Have you considered seeing a doctor?

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Since it happens when you think about it, and follows you to any surface you sleep on, I think this is something your brain is creating. If you want to help prove it to yourself have someone watch you try to sleep and try to make it happen. Having something be 'all in your head' is an uncomfortable thought for most people, but its very common and doesn't mean you are crazy. The brain is really good at creating false feelings of movement, especially a brain trying to sleep. I've woken up and hallucinated people, voices, being touched, and a loud gunshot noise before. All normal things my brain 'made' that felt incredibly real to me.

Its like when you are in a parked car and the car next to you starts pulling out of a parking space. The illusion tricks you into thinking YOU are moving backward and suddenly you feel the car rolling even though you are actually standing still. Or maybe you've stood at the waters edge on a beach and physically felt and 'saw' yourself being pulled forward, though when you jump back you hadn't moved at all. Its likely the same kind of thing.

Sometimes when I'm really tired and I'm laying face down I will feel the bed move. I know it's not really moving, but I can feel the vibrations in my body- it's all an illusion created by my brain however.

Obviously, this is affecting you so even if you had someone witness the bed sitting still while you felt it moving it wouldn't change anything- you would still be bothered by the movement, even if you confirmed it wasn't real. I suggest taking some sleep medication- it can knock you out fast enough that you won't have to worry about feeling movement. Of course, it could make it worse- try a test run. Going to bed really tired might also work. Hold off going to bed until you are really exhausted and you'll get to sleep faster. Experiment with different sleeping positions, it may be certain ones that trigger it. Listening to soft music while you sleep could also help distract you from thinking about it, which sounds like it will prevent the bed from shaking. Jumping out of bed and staring at the frame when you feel it move could even help force your mind to realize the bed is stationary. Seeing the bed physically standing still will help change your perspective and force your mind to realize nothing is moving. Once you feel grounded and stare at the unmoving bed, carefully get back in.

If nothing helps, you could even talk to your doctor about the situation. They may have some medications that will help you.

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It could be something to do with the nerves in your body. They may be over active and you're feeling these sensations of the bed being hit under you. Could be something neurological as well. If possible you might want to consider and MRI to rule out any health problems such as a blockage somewhere. It could really just be over active nerves firing and thinking about it triggers the nerves.

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Is the matress on a bedframe? Is the bedframe solid all over or does it have any spaces like this:

Bunk_Bed_Frame.png

Have you tried putting the matress on the floor or sleeping on the floor in general? Maybe if you sleep on a surface which you can pretty much guarantee won't bend when someone punches/pushes it, it might stop?

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I'd set up some cameras to document it, if it was that regular and predictable...

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All this bed shaking sounds like: nightmares-more possible than you would imagine as even insomniacs sleep more than they think, or over-active imagination to a huge degree, or mental illness.

Since the phenomena is not accompanied by distress, MI seems a reasonable explanation. Because only a small proportion of MI sufferers come to the attention of the authorities, it is not generally realized how common it is.

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My bed hasn't been shaking every night for a couple months now... sigh

This does sound like sleep paralysis or some other disorder though to be honest.

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