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Vatican recognizes exorcists' organization.

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The International Association of Exorcists has been formally recognized by the Vatican's Holy See, an indication the Catholic Church approves of the controversial practice of exorcism.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/T.../#ixzz36LY2LrDh

They do say the victim need to be evaluated by a medical specialist first before men wearing dresses can pretend to have magical powers and talk in Latin to mentally ill people.

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Although I have been known to chase 'shadow creatures' round the house with a flashlight so I shouldn't really judge.

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One backward step to the Middle Ages

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Good, maybe they should start with themselves.

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This could get out of control. Stay tuned.

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This story reminded me of this for some reason...

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I don't know why we think the modern scientific world view about demons is true. Our ancestors were not dumb, in fact they may have been in touch with reality on a deeper level than we in the modern world are. We now know of the micro world, where there is an almost infinite amount of life, much of it dangerous to humans. So why not beings who are 'higher' than us. More intelligent, some evil others good. Because of their intelligence, when they made their choice for self centered existence, it was total, so they are only concerned with themselves, and those who have given themselves over to evil we call demons. When in reality, like bacteria and virus they are another form of life. There is a vast amount of literature that deals with this reality and I don't like it much. So perhaps we are hunted, sought after to be overtaken and to become their prisoners for eternity if we allow ourselves to become evil like them.

The catholic church is mocked a lot here, and on some grounds it deserves it. However there is a lot of experience with the demonic within the church, and even though for the last 50 years the church has on many levels sought to distance themselves from this so called 'outmoded idea', yet it is coming back....why.....because the demonic is real, terrifying and exorcism can work, though not in the way Hollywood likes to depict it. Though I have met intelligent priest who have experienced many strange things from those possessed.

We are a shallow people, we think we know more than we actually do when it comes to the so called paranormal world.....when it fact it is just normal, a very real part of our world. Today studies are being done to show that reality is wider and deeper than we can know. I don't expect anyone to change their minds on what I write here, and I hope, no one who mocks such things will ever have to fact such a reality. For it is vicious, cold, unloving and wishes only to devour.....that is what evil does.

All cultures have stories about intelligent evil, and ways to deal with it. Like I said, we are very naive, at least in my opinion in our cavalier attitude about what is actually our there. Also, the world is not much better now than it was in the middle ages.....at least on how we treat each other. We may have an idea about human values, and human rights, but they seldom reach a level in how we actually treat each other. The 20th century, which was very secular was the bloodiest we have ever seen, I doubt the 21st will be much different. Sin is another outmoded idea, as well as the need of grace and mercy.....outmoded means nothing, just a passing long lasting fad of any one culture at any one time.

http://www.patheos.c...o-demons-exist/

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I guess priests with good conscience would lament on this. At least some priests have strong humanistic tendencies and they do not like to lean on supernatural miracles.

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I guess priests with good conscience would lament on this. At least some priests have strong humanistic tendencies and they do not like to lean on supernatural miracles.

The problem my friend is that these tragic events do happen in peoples lives. Good priest are the ones who deal with it, some to deadly effect on their lives. We are no more intelligent than our ancestors, though we have more understanding of science, in other areas we are perhaps more deficient.

Peace

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"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele. Just sayin'

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"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele. Just sayin'

It's been all ruddy go!

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I think maybe 20 percent of exorcisms are real the other 80 percent is just mental illness

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Jesus cast out devils. If possession is real, I'm sure we all can think of at least one person in our lives that need theirs exorcised.

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No Witch burning jokes?

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"Father Gabriele Amorth who claims that he has performed more than 160,000 exorcisms."

At a rate of one per day, that would be 438 years of exorcisms for Father Gabriele. Just sayin'

They installed a drive through lane years ago.

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They should recognize it they been performing exorcism for years so why is this news. Half the world is infected with evil spirits and most don't know it.

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The problem my friend is that these tragic events do happen in peoples lives. Good priest are the ones who deal with it, some to deadly effect on their lives. We are no more intelligent than our ancestors, though we have more understanding of science, in other areas we are perhaps more deficient.

Peace

mark

No the real tragedy is that you can fill volumes with the stories of those who were abused, tortured, and killed because of this nonsense - many of whom were children and mentally ill.

The fact that an organization in 2014 would embrace this Dark Ages superstition simply for the sake of pushing their Dark Ages mythology is sickening frankly.

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No the real tragedy is that you can fill volumes with the stories of those who were abused, tortured, and killed because of this nonsense - many of whom were children and mentally ill.

The fact that an organization in 2014 would embrace this Dark Ages superstition simply for the sake of pushing their Dark Ages mythology is sickening frankly.

Perhaps both perspectives have validity?

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Perhaps both perspectives have validity?

No one has ever been injured or killed by a demon.

Hundreds of thousands have been injured and killed by exorcisms.

So what's the real danger?

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where do you get your information from Rafterman? I mean,

how do you know this ? you can't just wirte that & have people believe you ??

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Of course, one first should determine if possession by demons(or other spiritual influence) is real.

Unfortunately this is not something that Science can currently answer.

For myself, I do believe it is real, but somewhat rare in extreme cases.

Or is it "rare" ?

Perhaps it's much more common than we think.

I don't know...

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good...kudos for the vatican. :-)

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I am not "strictly" Catholic... I tend more towards Protestant.

But, I will say this.

If I or other's close to me exhibit bizarre behavior not attributable to drugs or psychiatric disorders, and if things are getting really weird in their home, like furniture or such flying around, I will have no hesitation calling upon a Catholic exorcist. I truly feel that they have that aspect beyond others.

Just my take on things...

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