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Noah's Ark and Flood story.. fish didn't die!

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Well my relatives got me a very nice looking bible lately.

I have been reading it just for fun. Well I found one thing interesting.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

Therefore this flood did not make everything perish on the earth.

Let's not forget turtles those can live in water also.

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It never happened.....

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Well my relatives got me a very nice looking bible lately.

I have been reading it just for fun. Well I found one thing interesting.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

Therefore this flood did not make everything perish on the earth.

Let's not forget turtles those can live in water also.

Plus millions of tons of stuff would have floated and been temporary home to millions of creatures!!

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The story also says there are windows in the sky. It's a work of fiction.

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Well my relatives got me a very nice looking bible lately.

I have been reading it just for fun. Well I found one thing interesting.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

Therefore this flood did not make everything perish on the earth.

Let's not forget turtles those can live in water also.

Well fellow Christians, this guy figured it all out. Time to pack it in...

We had a good 2000 year run I suppose, but it looks like we've been foiled!

Since fish and turtles live in water, I guess it's time to completely reevaluate out entire system of faith, and our salvation in the afterlife.

Hard to believe it all hinged on that tiny error in our holy book...

Maybe the Hindus are hiring.

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Actually a massive influx of fresh water in a salt water body would do the the fish no good, and many would die off... Plus it said "on the Earth"... Fish are in the sea...

Just being contrary... :D

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Either the writers made a mistake.

The Bible made a mistake! Horrors! What will they discover next?

Doug

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Someone posted a link to Answers in Genesis!

Back to the drawing boards people.

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Someone posted a link to Answers in Genesis!

Back to the drawing boards people.

Oh I see, so the others links are worthless?

I wonder if that was just your excuse to not look any further.... maybe this one will help you overcome your preconceptions...

http://thelightofday...man-Society.pdf

Or maybe that one is too scientific for your taste....

Edited by Jor-el

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Oh I see, so the others links are worthless?

I wonder if that was just your excuse to not look any further.... maybe this one will help you overcome your preconceptions...

http://thelightofday...man-Society.pdf

Or maybe that one is too scientific for your taste....

Oh, someone being condescending, that's refreshing.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

The obvious answer there is that god only said "on the earth" earth being another name for dirt.

so if it walks on dry land, it'd die.

Ahhh, God, he's one semantic lovin' m***********

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Oh, someone being condescending, that's refreshing.

Respect given is respect received and the opposite is also true....

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Respect given is respect received and the opposite is also true....

Oh, no I understand, someone made a comment about your content, you insult them

Perfectly acceptable, just a great way to have a constructive conversation. There was no need to try and show why your evidence was solid choice or anything.

Just go right into the spitting at each other

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Or, to offer another option for the OP, the Flood narrative was not intended as a literal recount of events but rather a theological discourse on God.

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Well my relatives got me a very nice looking bible lately.

I have been reading it just for fun. Well I found one thing interesting.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

Therefore this flood did not make everything perish on the earth.

Let's not forget turtles those can live in water also.

Umm.... the fish absolutely would have died.... Everything in the oceans would have died. A flood so great that the highest mountains were submerged? Assuming that were possible (it isn't, by hypothetically), not only would the marine life have perished from a comination of salinity, immense pressure, and disruption of delicate reproductive, ecological, and dietary systems, but the animals that allegedly were on the alleged "ark" would have died from lack of oxygen, not to mention intense cold, or lack of adequate resources :innocent: It's nonsense. No such event ever occurred. There undoubtedly were very large floods in the past, but the only time Everest has been underwater was when it was seafloor beneath the prehistoric Asian and Indian continents (read: not a mountain at all) ^_^

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Well my relatives got me a very nice looking bible lately.

I have been reading it just for fun. Well I found one thing interesting.

God said I will bring a flood and everything on the earth will perish.

This included the humans, the birds, the creeping creatures, etc.

But what about the fish and sharks? Or those didn't exist yet?

Either the writers made a mistake.

Or someone didn't realize that fish, whales, sharks, dolphins

live in water.

Therefore this flood did not make everything perish on the earth.

Let's not forget turtles those can live in water also.

Did it actually say all living things would perish? Because noah and his family did not, nor did the other animals in the ark. The ark was only needed for non water living animals. The description of the animals entering the ark makes this clear, in defining things like those that went on two legs or four or slithered etc.

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Did it actually say all living things would perish? Because noah and his family did not, nor did the other animals in the ark. The ark was only needed for non water living animals. The description of the animals entering the ark makes this clear, in defining things like those that went on two legs or four or slithered etc.

Yet it makes no mention of arthropods, or plants and fungi.... incidentally, an "ark" of salvation of some sort would have been needed for the water-dwelling species too: as I said already, just because they live in water doesn't mean they would survive those conditions. The description given in Genesis ensures the extinction of marine life, without doubt.

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Yet it makes no mention of arthropods, or plants and fungi.... incidentally, an "ark" of salvation of some sort would have been needed for the water-dwelling species too: as I said already, just because they live in water doesn't mean they would survive those conditions. The description given in Genesis ensures the extinction of marine life, without doubt.

Well to be pedantic, as is my wont, Noah took "everything that creepeth on the earth" 'gen7v8 which would include arthropods,, and the life of the oceans is specifically excluded from destruction "All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land died" gen 7 22 Now I am not a biblical literalist and don't believe in the flood as a world wide event, but the story remains contextually accurate. Obviously the story writers just allowed that all the animals in a marine environment would survive The more glaring discrepancy is that while Noah took many plant species with him, it is obvious that natural regrowth occurred after the flood because the dove found a growing olive tree. My assumption from the writers perspective is that hey envisaged god re-seeding the earth. A similar thing is done by god in revelation where the earth is cleansed by fire and then reseeded as the new earth. It fits the mystical allegory of destruction and rebirth found through out religions of the world. Edited by Mr Walker
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The flood story of course is a total myth. What is very sad is the fact that some actually believe it happened!

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Posted (edited)

The antipathy with which some approach the Bible and/or Christian faith continues to surprise me. Either some folks have had very negative experiences with Christians/Christianity, or some have a burning intellectual desire to be nay-sayers against said faith. My own experience has been to be vilified by both believers and skeptics/non-believers alike because my Christian faith is of the open-minded, "liberal" (freely discussed and interpreted) variety. Hence I view PA's post above, #14) as a most generous and sensible point of view on the Flood.

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Oh, no I understand, someone made a comment about your content, you insult them

Perfectly acceptable, just a great way to have a constructive conversation. There was no need to try and show why your evidence was solid choice or anything.

Just go right into the spitting at each other

Of course you understand.... yet I wonder why only Christians are held to that particular course of action... You said that it was a comment, well so was my response, yet you interestingly viewed my response and not his as the negative element... tough luck.

This reminds me of a cartoon I found sad but very true recently....

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Edited by Jor-el
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The flood myth exists in part as a memory of events passed. It's quit obvious that massive events exist in Human history and would have been passed down in some sort of tradition. Trying to tear apart biblical theology based on science is silly and old. Everyone already knows the bible cannot be a literal translation of events other than the most fundamental Christians. It's a LITERARY DEVICE people. Get over it. A flood like episode has happened in nearly all cultures... And guess what? It will happen again. And guess what? Someone will then also use it as a theological teaching tool. ( for good or ill I cannot say)

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Oh I see, so the others links are worthless?

I wonder if that was just your excuse to not look any further.... maybe this one will help you overcome your preconceptions...

http://thelightofday...man-Society.pdf

Or maybe that one is too scientific for your taste....

You believe that the Bible is the inspired word of the creator of the Universe.

That's excuse enough. XD

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