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Why Can't Apes Speak Like Humans?

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In the new film "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes," a brilliant, mutant chimp named Caesar forcefully yells "Go!" at a group of humans who wandered into the ape population's forest. His deep, guttural voice startles the people, but his vocalizations are even more surprising.

The ape speaks English.

While bands of apes do have ways of communicating with one another, is it possible for nonhuman primates to speak the way humans do?

https://uk.news.yaho...20.html#26ZGs66

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They can, it's just unlike humans they only speak when they ave something interesting to say ;)

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The ape speaks English.

What like "innit" ?

Edited by freetoroam
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I'm not sure how i would feel hearing a chimp speak like a human in reality.

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No they don't have the same vocal cords as humans.

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Chimps are very clever though, they have a broad and diverse language.

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Chimps have almost everything they need for speech. They have both the Broca's and Wernicke's areas of the brain used to process language. They have a hyoid bone but their larynx is not low enough to produce the full range of human sounds. They also have the FOXP2 gene that is necessary for speech, but is slightly different from the human version. It's this slight difference that may be the barrier to chimpanzee speech.

"biologists in Leipzig, Germany, genetically engineered a mouse with the human version of FOXP2 substituted for its own. The upgraded mice squeaked somewhat differently from plain mice and were born with subtle alterations in brain structure."

As far as I know, no one has tried to replace chimp FOXP2 genes with human ones. As opposed to the mouse experiment, this one would be highly controversial and most likely prohibited.

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Some things are best left untaught...

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Since this Yahoo "news" story was inspired by the latest Planet of the Apes movie, I thought I would re-post a commercial from the last one. It was originally released as real footage from Africa, but was quickly revealed to be fake. Still, it's hilarious.

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I think the thinking here is backward. Can humans mimic the noises that an ape can produce? If so, then we simply need to create a language using the sounds apes and humans can both produce and teach it to both humans and apes.

So, in a sense, apes could be taught to speak, using their native range of vocalizations.

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I dont know if yall are quite rite or not. I mean parrots dont have vocal cords and ive heard parrots speak clear as day.

I dont know if yall are quite rite or not. I mean parrots dont have vocal cords and ive heard parrots speak clear as day.

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In their defence, monkeys are quite good at singing.

Edited by Eldorado
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I dont know if yall are quite rite or not. I mean parrots dont have vocal cords and ive heard parrots speak clear as day.

Not only can they talk, and not just imitate, they are also highly intelligent and according to the Cambridge Declaration; "Evidence of near human-like levels of consciousness has been most dramatically observed in African grey parrots."

And this reminded me of Alex, the African Grey.

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In their defence, monkeys are quite good at singing.

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It would be cool if apes could talk though, it's be nice to have someone to talk to who has a different viewpoint on things.

I was watching a documentary once regarding a refuge for apes that were retired from research labs and I was watching this one old orangutan and i swear I almost expected it to say something any moment too.

Same with gorillas. Who knows..maybe someday they will.

I'd like to think so but liking an idea doesn't make it true.

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Haven't read all the links here, but there appears to be some type of significant anatomical difference in a monkey/ape vocal cord set-up as opposed to humans and certain birds.

Of course, as stated earlier here, the brain of the animal has a high role in this, as well as the appropriate genes.

Edit: I wish my precious dog could speak human. I love her so much.

Edit Edit. Come to think of it, maybe I love her so much for not human vocalizing her displeasure of my insanity.

:passifier:

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While they don't speak like humans,they have language skills all their own, to point of there being different dialects and languages among groups in different localeshttp://www.chimpworlds.com/chimpanzee-communication/

Edited by John Wesley Boyd

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Not only can they talk, and not just imitate, they are also highly intelligent and according to the Cambridge Declaration; "Evidence of near human-like levels of consciousness has been most dramatically observed in African grey parrots."

And this reminded me of Alex, the African Grey.

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The best part about Alex is that despite how he was described in newspapers, he was just a regular African Grey. Any Grey with the right temperament can be trained to communicate like he did.

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you know what would be REALLY REALLY COOL?

if apes could talk. i wonder if anyone has thought of this before?

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Why can't we just rig them up with a Box like Steven Hawking, or the dog off Up? We could hear a lot of "mine" and "give me".....

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Hmm, not quite true that apes can not speak. With apologies to real apes, there are a lot of human political and fanatical religious apes who can utter some sort of words and sentences, but none of which make much sense, if any at all!

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On a more serious note, lets not forget that we were once apes too (some say we still are!).

So if for some reason only humans were become extinct, in another few million

years apes may evolve to a true 'speaking' level too.

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I can't wait for them to form a rock band .... I just can't wait ....

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Apes can't speak like humans because they don't need to- they use telepathic communication.

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