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[...]Remember to take your pills people ! :tu:

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Damn those pills :angry: colored differently.. .$#!+, forgot to take one...

PS congrats, BigD, you just made 2 1.7x (x - for 10000) post...

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C'mon, don 't give up so easily. Few more ideas and we will have "scientific" paper ready for publishing in JSE ;)

We just have to figure out where those "boulders" (and the rest of the body) hide... And, of course, about temperatures...

Haven't we done enough to get published in JSE!?!?! Must I take a photo of expanding and contracting boulders to publish in this esteemed journal? I'm not Alfred Kinsey after all. Wait, he wasn't a geologist was he? No, he wasn't, whole different set of rocks there. :whistle:

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800px-MudCrabRaiseClaw.jpgMudcrabs. Filthy animals. Edited by John Wesley Boyd
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Its very disappointing to see that Flying Monkeys are allowed to run rampant on this board.

I would say the only thing thats rampant here is yr rampant use of the words science/scientific/scientific papers

in relation to yr wild claims.

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Haven't we done enough to get published in JSE!?!?! Must I take a photo of expanding and contracting boulders to publish in this esteemed journal? I'm not Alfred Kinsey after all. Wait, he wasn't a geologist was he? No, he wasn't, whole different set of rocks there. :whistle:

We still need something so outrageously moronic (last brush, so to speak), that any reader would say "No one can come up such stupidity, hence must be true" :rolleyes:
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Observation: Looking at rocks (clouds too) certainly does fire up some people's imagination.

Bit of imagination is good, but claims of the aforementioned "doctors" sound like they come from the "house of the wisdom" (mental institution, in other words).
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In August 2012 the Parrot Geoglyph was featured on the FRONT PAGE of the Wall Street Journal - news paper!

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The Parrot geoglyph on Mars (WSJ)

Here is a quote from that article:

"Haas and a small group of dedicated colleagues have pored over other images from the red planet for decades, looking for features that could have been created by intelligent beings. Over the years, among other things, they have seen a face they describe as half-human, half-feline. And a parrot-shaped feature on a mound of rock with '17 points of anatomical correctness.' ...they are closer than ever to solving the mystery of what has been seen in the skies."

Here is a link to the WSJ article:http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390443855804577599851584093374

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Here is the conclusion from the JSE article:

The overall impression of this area of the Mars photographs (Figure 9) is that

regardless of the nature of the varied lithology or the nature of depositional

and erosional agents, the avian-shaped formation is indeed exceptional in its

physical appearance and anatomical completeness. While there are known

geological mechanisms that are capable of creating the anatomical accuracies

presented in this formation, the natural creation of a formation with 17 points

of anatomical correctness seems to go well beyond the probability of chance.

With respect to the modeling of these anatomical features, visual perception

of the avian formation, which has been documented over a six-year period

by the Mars Global Surveyor’s orbital camera, appears to have permanence

and is not the result of a transient phenomenon or an illusionary projection.

One interpretation is that this formation was originally a natural landform

that was modified to illustrate the required features of a recognizable bird.

However, although the authors find this as an intriguing possibility, we also

acknowledge that the current dataset is not of sufficient resolution to warrant

a conclusive analysis, and additional high-resolution images of this feature are

needed. Therefore, it is with our combined fortitude that we have requested the

cooperation of both NASA and the imaging team at the University of Arizona,

to direct the HiRISE camera aboard the current Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

(MRO) to photograph this enigmatic feature at its next available opportunity.

It is pretty clear to me that they are calling this a natural hill with an off chance of being modified.

To paint this to be anything than a very preliminary look at a geological formation is unwarranted.

People might want to look at the PDF because the colorized version shown by Zip Monster in post #16 is not what is shown in the article.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=271775&st=15#entry5302844

The 17 points is a bit questionable as well. The crest is not known in modern birds so they use a point which they conjecture existed in birds now extinct. Another point is the neck. How nice, a head is connected to the body by a neck. They also claim flight feathers but not a wing. How odd.

I have to say the article is a big let down.

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In August 2012 the Parrot Geoglyph was featured on the FRONT PAGE of the Wall Street Journal - news paper!

The Parrot geoglyph on Mars (WSJ)

Here is a quote from that article:

"Haas and a small group of dedicated colleagues have pored over other images from the red planet for decades, looking for features that could have been created by intelligent beings. Over the years, among other things, they have seen a face they describe as half-human, half-feline. And a parrot-shaped feature on a mound of rock with '17 points of anatomical correctness.' ...they are closer than ever to solving the mystery of what has been seen in the skies."

Here is a link to the WSJ article:http://online.wsj.co...599851584093374

Zip Monster

So what if a newspaper prints an article on the subject. All that does is reports what is already in the JSE article. There is nothing new there except for the fact that the pareidolia gang has been hard at work for years.

That 17 points of anatomical correctness is bunk. A figure drawn in a game of hangman may have the following:

1. head

2. neck

3. torso

4. left arm

5. right arm

6. left leg

7. right leg

8. left ankle

9. right ankle

10. left hand

11. right hand

12. left hip

13. right hip

14. left foot

15. right foot

16. left shoulder

17. right shoulder

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Did anyone every feed that Parrot on Mars yet?

Polly want a mars rover ! :tu:

somebody fed it their credulity.
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Kenemet, and anyone else interested, here are the credentials for the authors of the science paper “Avian Formation on a South-Facing Slope Along the Northwest Rim of the Argyre Basin” which was published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration, Fall, 2011 (Vol. 25, No.3), George J. Haas – Sculptor, Michael A. Dale - geologists, James S. Miller – image analyst, William R. Saunders - geologist, A. J. Cole - Dr. of Veterinarian Medicine, Joseph M. Friedlander - Dr. of Veterinarian Medicine, Susan Orosz- Dr. of Veterinarian Medicine (Avian specialist).

Note both of the geologists and the three veterinarians confirm the parrot formations 17 points of anatomical correctness and agree with Haas and Miller that the formation is artificial.

Zip Monster

Actually, not entirely correct on their qualifications. From the Parrotopia page: "

Haas sends Faust an update on the participating authors for the parrot paper. Authors include: Faust (who has an academic degrees in both anthropology and urban planning), Haas (author and sculptor), Saunders (author and geomorphologist), Laney (image specialist), Miller (researcher and Anomaly Hunters webmaster) and Dr. Cole (veterinarian)." http://parrotopia.org/Timeline.php

So we have Wil Faust who got a degree in anthropology and became a city planner, a sculptor and author, a person who worked for the oil industry and who writes books on "cities" he finds on Mars, Laney (no credentials), Miller (no credentials) and Cole who is a veterinarian.

I don't see three veterinarians there, and only one geologist who has a history of writing books about imagined cities. This does not inspire any confidence.

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... Haas (author and sculptor) ...

And as per his profile ZipMonster seems to be Haas and the owner of the page The Cydonia Institute http://thecydoniains...te.com/Home.php

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you know we just may find life is everywhere out there ! Were just starting to learn how to get there and sniff around, Give us a chance and some time. We will Find Life in the Universe. THe Numbers tell ,the Tell !

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Fine, then I'll move this to the Extraterrestrial Life & The UFO Phenomenon forum.

As I do so I'll give you something to think about. That image is 2.84km in width (see here). The "parrot" stretches for two thirds of the image, with it's "tail" not even visible as it is beyond the right edge of the image. That means your parrot, from beak to tail, is about 2 km (1.2 miles) in length.

Some parrot.

Which means it's a big parrot... or maybe a 'Great Parrot' Thanks for clearing that up for us wd :tu:

More to the point.. above the 'parrot' and a well deserved name too.. is what appears to be ancient ruins.. possibly the builders home who made the Great Parrot!!

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And as per his profile ZipMonster seems to be Haas and the owner of the page The Cydonia Institute http://thecydoniains...te.com/Home.php

It must be getting tough in his field now that we have high res images coming in that erase the pareidolia. Apparently this is the best he can do and it's kinda sad in a way. Well not really, the sooner we are rid of the hucksters the better IMHO.

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gbprint_lg.jpg The Great Bird of the Galaxy Edited by John Wesley Boyd
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The mind sees what the mind wants to see.

I don't think we have to worry about the sand people building more parrots any time soon.

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"Somethings Not Right" said; "More to the point.. above the 'parrot' ... is what appears to be ancient ruins.. possibly the builders home who made the Great Parrot!!"

Yes, above the Parrot geoglyph (in the wing area) are the ruins.

M1402185WFaustParrotopia.jpg

Take a look...

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Hello Kenemet. Sorry for the confusion, but the paper that you are talking about (and linking to) is an early draft of the paper and NOT the paper that was published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration.

Note: That early draft should have NEVER been posted on the Net.

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