seeder Posted November 5, 2015 #1 Share Posted November 5, 2015 German woman fights for life after 'spontaneously combusting' while sitting on a park bench The woman was sitting on a park bench when she suddenly set on fire A horrified passer-by attempted to smother the flames with his jacket But the victim, from Mauritius, was taken to hospital with severe burns Witnesses said the woman made no sound as the flames engulfed her http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303210/Woman-fighting-life-engulfed-flames-spontaneously-combusted-sitting-park-bench-Germany.html#ixzz3qZV3ouEv 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted November 5, 2015 #2 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Now this is some seriously terrifying stuff...just suddenly going up in flames for no obvious reason *shudder*. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblykiss Posted November 5, 2015 #3 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I can't even make jokes about this one. It's just horrific. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted November 5, 2015 #4 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I mean, one minute you're just sitting in the park watching pigeons and squirrels...and the next minute you're being burned alive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted November 5, 2015 #5 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Poor woman, that would be terrifying, not even knowing if you can put it out since it started for no reason. The pain had to be horrible. I wish her well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted November 5, 2015 #6 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Just wondering, are there any good/current hypotheses on what could possibly be the cause of spontaneous human combustion? The ideas contained in the article are ones I've heard before and to my knowledge have never been proven valid. Edited November 5, 2015 by Lilly addition 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 5, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Just wondering, are there any good/current hypotheses on what could possibly be the cause of spontaneous human combustion? can it be, that some women fart, while wearing tights....and that kinda holds in the methane? Waiting for ignition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted November 5, 2015 #8 Share Posted November 5, 2015 can it be, that some women fart, while wearing tights....and that kinda holds in the methane? Waiting for ignition? In that case we'd be seeing Ballet Dancers and Robin Hood go up in flames (especially after eating chili). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 5, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted November 5, 2015 In that case we'd be seeing Ballet Dancers and Robin Hood go up in flames (especially after eating chili). the last part of the article says....... These include victim behaviour and habits, alcohol consumption and proximity to potential sources of ignition, as well as the behaviour of fires that consume melted fats. In the Flensburg case prosecutor Stahlmann-Liebelt said investigators had not yet ruled out whether the woman had actually set alight to herself in a suicide attempt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted November 5, 2015 #10 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Remind me not to fart with my tights on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 5, 2015 Author #11 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Remind me not to fart with my tights on. made me thanks...ha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted November 5, 2015 #12 Share Posted November 5, 2015 SHC seems to be for real ! If it really is... I'd love for us to understand How it happens. We might learn something unexpected . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted November 5, 2015 #13 Share Posted November 5, 2015 We're sure she isn't a vampire who didn't put on enough sunblock? Just wondering, are there any good/current hypotheses on what could possibly be the cause of spontaneous human combustion? The ideas contained in the article are ones I've heard before and to my knowledge have never been proven valid. I saw a documentary about this a few years back, it had a man on there who said over the course a week he spontaneously started smoking beneath his clothes 2-3 times. Hard to say if that is true or not, but it is freaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipotep Posted November 5, 2015 #14 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Witnesses said the woman made no sound as the flames engulfed her This above ^^ just about sums it up for me, who wouldn't scream in fear if flames started to engulf them? IMO she most likely set fire to herself. The human body does not have the ability to go up in flames without an external source to light it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted November 5, 2015 #15 Share Posted November 5, 2015 As a kid, I remember reading about SHC in a Mysteries book, and it absolutely terrified me.. but then as I got older I looked at the cases in more detail and realised that there were generally good explanations for what happened, and that they weren't really spontaneous or unexpected (at least, not if you knew the full story..) I'm wagering that as more information comes to light, this may turn out to be less of a mystery.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Cooper Merrin Posted November 5, 2015 #16 Share Posted November 5, 2015 We are made up of highly flammable stuff...fat... but the ignition temp of animal fats is generally above 190°C, 374°F ,which is completely unachievable sitting on a park bench. Hair is very flammable also, especially combined with certain hair products but requires an actual flame for ignition This has to be a case of a cigarette ending up on combustible material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 5, 2015 #17 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Most cases have been attributed to a slow wick effect of burning fat of a deceased individual. If it happened as described there have to be some kind of accelerant involved. This sounds more like self immolation, accidental or on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikko-kun Posted November 5, 2015 #18 Share Posted November 5, 2015 This above ^^ just about sums it up for me, who wouldn't scream in fear if flames started to engulf them? IMO she most likely set fire to herself. The human body does not have the ability to go up in flames without an external source to light it. Perhaps not, I wouldn't know. But humans can increase their body temperature by a whopping 8 degrees celsius by meditation-like practices, "internal alchemy" I guess. But that's what the masters can do, regular people who train at it can do an increase of 2 degrees or so usually. And neither is nearly enough to reach the fat inflammation level. My best wager, if it wasn't external, is some neural circuit or electric current generated by the human being going haywire. Electricity going haywire = sparks and resistance = heat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackscolon Posted November 5, 2015 #19 Share Posted November 5, 2015 ...From the Daily Mail you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 5, 2015 Author #20 Share Posted November 5, 2015 ...From the Daily Mail you say? Perhaps the Independent will be more to your liking? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/woman-appears-to-spontaneously-burst-into-flames-on-park-bench-a6721941.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Terreur Posted November 5, 2015 #21 Share Posted November 5, 2015 this one said that, sadly, the woman died. Officials are listing it as "suicide", but witnesses saw two men running away from her before the incident.... http://www.shz.de/lokales/flensburger-tageblatt/spielplatz-in-flensburg-brandopfer-ist-gestorben-id11118711.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackscolon Posted November 5, 2015 #22 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) The link for the http://www.shz.de/lo...id11106361.html on the Independent page is certainly more to my liking! I reckon this is the first source of this story.. The SHC-angle must have been added by the Daily Mail or The Independent. I'm not saying it's not SHC, I'm just being very critical of most medias these days... Edited November 5, 2015 by Jackscolon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted November 5, 2015 #23 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) The thing I like about cases of supposed SHC events is the necessary involvement by law enforcement, medical professionals, etc. Their opinions, in my view, hold considerable weight and thus is interesting to me. SHC, it seems, are a case-by-case interpretation. Some appear to be clear instances of externally fueled suicide or murder, whereas a few seem to fall within the category of "officially unexplained" This case may end-up being more mundane in explanation, but most certainly this cannot be similarly attributed to all SHC events as officially documented. Edited November 5, 2015 by pallidin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamor Posted November 5, 2015 #24 Share Posted November 5, 2015 There are all kind of chemical ingridients in our body. Couldn't it be possible that under very rare and unfortunate circumstances too high concentrations of different ingridients comes into contact with each other and starts some kind of chemical reaction? Zam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibeliever Posted November 5, 2015 #25 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) There are all kind of chemical ingridients in our body. Couldn't it be possible that under very rare and unfortunate circumstances too high concentrations of different ingridients comes into contact with each other and starts some kind of chemical reaction? It seems possible to me especially when we introduce high volumes of alcohol and/or other substances. I've certainly felt like my head was on fire a few saturday mornings. Edited November 5, 2015 by Calibeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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