Redefining Success Posted July 19, 2016 #26 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Since you are so good at evading questions and showing substantial evidence, I doubt any one is interested any more, especially over a month since your last post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 19, 2016 #27 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) substantial evidence, is right. I do my best to answer question. But not accusations, or innuendo that steals away from the subject matter and doesn't do the evidence provided justice. if you have a question I welcome it here or PM(private message) Edited July 19, 2016 by macqdor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted July 19, 2016 #28 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) The only thing "stunning" about those clips is how you think we're all stupid enough to not realize the "chickened out you puss" voice is the woman that was talking seconds before now mumbling something while working on the camera or whatever it is she's doing. This is the worst kind of pathetic attention grab. Edited July 19, 2016 by moonman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 19, 2016 #29 Share Posted July 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Redefining Success said: Since you are so good at evading questions and showing substantial evidence, I doubt any one is interested any more, especially over a month since your last post. Sorry, that was a typo! It's insubstantial evidence you produce and when queried, you turn tail and flee. Seriously Keith, knock it on the head now, it's ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 19, 2016 #30 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm right here Redefining Success. Where is your question? The logical and irony here is simple. if you don't believe or if you don't have an intelligent, thought provoking comment, or if you believe its all hog wash. Then why do you respond? Simply ignore. Things I don't believe or subscribe to as being true or sincere I ignore and never look back. FYI But "Redefining Success" ask your question. If its non-accusatory, if its not an innuendo. I promise I will respond. Better yet.......you can send question here and to my PM. I've just presented you with 2 options. Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 20, 2016 #31 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Keith, A simple search any web browser brings up multiple threads by yourself, threads which all reach the same conclusion, it's a load of fake rubbish. You produce questionable evidence, don't follow through with questions and are second to none at evading the truth and confrontation. I don't need to ask a question, because I know your answer will not be given in any reasonable time frame or not at all, your "evidence" will have more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Why resurrect a thread that's been quiet for nigh on 2 month, partly through your lack of response to questions. You evade the truth and reasoning offered by others. You have been outed on MANY forums and discussion boards. You tried, but it hasn't worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 20, 2016 #32 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Good morning "Redifining Success" Forums are loosely governed. As is the internet. One could say being labeled a hoax, a fake, sort of comes with the territory. Its actually a badge of honor really. It means I'm skating uphill. I mean everybody doing something against the grain is going to have his or her detractors. Why should the paranormal be any different. No one here has bought forth one piece evidence offered up evidence to prove our claims are fake. U might not choose to believe it, and we can spend some time as to why you don't. But lets be honest with ourselves. You not believing in the evidence being shared has nothing to do with me, ghosts, demons, spooks, or boogie men. It has something to do with you. With control. With being or attempting to be the gate keeper of information and judge and jury of whats true on this board and is this community. I would never give time, and energy to something I didnt believe in. I'd simply ignore it. To each , his or her own. That would be the logical response. But of course logic and web forum don't always go hand in hand. You want to attack the source(me) go for it. I put myself out there for you to attempt and try. But it still wont stop me from sharing evidence as I receive it. As we receive it. You dont believe what you see and hear on audio and video. Thats your prerogative but lets stay factual and be 100% honest and clear. No one and I mean no one has proven fakery or hoaxing has taken place. You want and hope that to be the case. But no one has proven that and that will never happen. I offer you un-edited, un-filtered evidence and I leave it for the individual to decide. And by the private emails I get. You, the detractor are greatly outnumbered. You do you. I will continue to do me. Sincerely, KL Mic drop X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted July 20, 2016 #33 Share Posted July 20, 2016 6 hours ago, macqdor said: Good morning "Redifining Success" Forums are loosely governed. As is the internet. One could say being labeled a hoax, a fake, sort of comes with the territory. Its actually a badge of honor really. It means I'm skating uphill. I mean everybody doing something against the grain is going to have his or her detractors. Why should the paranormal be any different. No one here has bought forth one piece evidence offered up evidence to prove our claims are fake. U might not choose to believe it, and we can spend some time as to why you don't. But lets be honest with ourselves. You not believing in the evidence being shared has nothing to do with me, ghosts, demons, spooks, or boogie men. It has something to do with you. With control. With being or attempting to be the gate keeper of information and judge and jury of whats true on this board and is this community. I would never give time, and energy to something I didnt believe in. I'd simply ignore it. To each , his or her own. That would be the logical response. But of course logic and web forum don't always go hand in hand. You want to attack the source(me) go for it. I put myself out there for you to attempt and try. But it still wont stop me from sharing evidence as I receive it. As we receive it. You dont believe what you see and hear on audio and video. Thats your prerogative but lets stay factual and be 100% honest and clear. No one and I mean no one has proven fakery or hoaxing has taken place. You want and hope that to be the case. But no one has proven that and that will never happen. I offer you un-edited, un-filtered evidence and I leave it for the individual to decide. And by the private emails I get. You, the detractor are greatly outnumbered. You do you. I will continue to do me. Sincerely, KL Mic drop X2 I'll be the first to admit that if you go looking hard enough for it, you're probably going to experience phenomena. That said, it's my personal belief (and experience) that people are actually the cause of the phenomena, and they can learn to control it. But not if they keep the focus on it being something outside of themselves that they have to prove to others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 21, 2016 #34 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Keith It's not just me "attacking" you is it? Although I prefer the term "questioning" . How remarkable that every bit of your "evidence" is easily faked. How amazing your cameras didnt record or went "missing" or voices sound remarkably like those of the people you are with. Are you also saying that in a house so full of activity, for the past 6-8 weeks this thread has been idle NOTHING has happened? Amazing. Perhaps you forgot about the thread on here. "chickened out you puss" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted July 21, 2016 #35 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Investigation of the 'paranormal' would be taken much more seriously, were there less macqdors. On a forum such as this, it is no badge of honor to be rejected by virtually everyone who looks at your claims in any detail... The excuses (especially for the lack of video, despite having ample time and resources and even having supposedly high end security systems that magically fail at just the wrong time..) are tiresome and unbelievable, the 'evidence' is mundane and easily - and in many cases, obviously - faked, and you avoid any questions you do not like. The response you are getting here and elsewhere is richly deserved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 22, 2016 #36 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Quote How remarkable that every bit of your "evidence" is easily faked. How amazing your cameras didnt record or went "missing" or voices sound remarkably like those of the people you are with. Redefining Success - I did a pit stop before coming here. I googled the term "Intelligent Haunting" off this web site and found several posts listing the term. Its a term I didn't know existed till 2014. An intelligent haunting is an interactive spirit. One for the most part interacts with its occupants esp "House Occupants." The Scientific Establish have classified this haunting as "Localized Intelligent Haunting" Believed to 'land locked." Now you brought up an interesting point or question. "evidence submitted looks easily faked." Truth be told every Ghost evidence I've seen , even the one's I know are real can for the most part be easily faked. I'd be interested in seeing any evidence you have about a previous case where the evidence submitted can with minimal effort be easily orchestrated. I dont believe all Ghost evidence is real or paranormal but I dont believe there all faked either. There is a middle ground and believe you me an intelligent entity i.e. intelligent haunting knows perfectly how to exploit it. Your question albeit a fare question is the pillar of which most skeptics stand on. I humbly put back in your lap this. Just because evidence has the "appearance" of being faked, doesn't mean it is. Nor should one be it through knee jerk reaction or skepticism simply dismiss it as fake. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2975035/Poltergeist-maliciously-terrorised-home-four-months-writing-threatening-messages-hurling-knives-bullets-rooms-attempts-exorcise-FAILED.html Quote Are you also saying that in a house so full of activity, for the past 6-8 weeks this thread has been idle NOTHING has happened? I think you understand my recent posts. #1 I dont live in the house anymore. Move out day was May 9th, this year. The recent posts by me come from a back log of evidence. Most of which I compiled while two visits from the Scientific Establishment of Parapsychology. Get up to speed here. Quote Amazing. Perhaps you forgot about the thread on here. "chickened out you puss No need to be vile. No I didnt forget about this thread. Like I said I'm sharing recent evidence compiled. Back log if you will. More to come. Instead of starting a new post I come here. Anyone who thinks its hog wash, can choose to ignore. LOL, i doubt they will. I find that fascinating. http://thetruthbehind.tv/demons-in-seattle-uncovered-interview/ Edited July 22, 2016 by macqdor SPELL CHECK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 23, 2016 #37 Share Posted July 23, 2016 ChrLzs post has obviously been missed. I haven't got any evidence Keith, because any experience I've had of the "paranormal" has been exactly the opposite and explained. I still don't believe you have answered the question of the where abouts of the landlord. As for being vile, it's quoted from your own evidence is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 23, 2016 #38 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Where abouts of the land lord? The land lord AKA home owner lives with his wife and children in Redmond WA. He put this house (in question) up for rent several years after it was built. The house was built in 2005 (Bothell WA). There have been 4 to 5 families living in the house since it went up for rent around 2007/2008. We moved in May 1st 2012. Lease was renewed May 2014. We officially moved out May 9th 2016. When the home owner became aware of the activity (by me) he being somewhat at lost as to how to proceed granted and approved mind you me having the house investigated. Since then the home has been investigated by local teams. clergy (Priest, and Ministers) Ex Fr. Roy and paranormal teams abroad (GA, east coast teams and lastly the UK S.E.P) and SSPR. Oh i forgot to mention one team in Spokane WA assisted as well as did one local Shaman. The home owner never attended any of these investigation but he was kept in the loop and approved and thumbs up each one. After all its his own. He like myself wanted to get to the root of it all and since I was able to renew my lease and complete my 2nd lease without forced eviction its OK to see he never expected Tina and myself as being the culprit of home vandalism. Do I think the home owner knew the house was haunted prior to us moving in? I wont make that leap and say yes. I have no evidence that he did. A lot of people buy homes and put them up for rent as a means of investment esp during the time period of "08 thru 2012". The housing market was in shambles. Puget Sound was no exception. I asked the previous tenants that experienced their own level of activity - did they tell the land lord? They said no. They just left. Most people just leave. Its not an easy subject to begin. After all who's going to believe you? The hell Ive caught is the perfect example of that. Unlike most I chose a different path. We chose to stay and have the house thoroughly investigated. No more guessing. No more being caught flat footed by the next tenant after me. Esp after what the previous tenant went through and what their children went through. In conclusion. I hold my land lord in high regard. Why? Because he allowed me to have this house investigated when for the most was not in his best interests to do so. He trusted me after I reported to him the fires, the destruction, the stories, the pics and videos of objects thrown and not once over a 4 year period did he pause and suggest Tina and myself were at the root of it. Any other questions about the land lord? Regards, Keith Edited July 23, 2016 by macqdor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 23, 2016 #39 Share Posted July 23, 2016 It's a pity I didn't see the info about the home owner in any of the other forums in which you have used to spread your story, but I see you are soaking up the attention. Why do you feel the need to link a video on you replies? Boosting your view count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 23, 2016 #40 Share Posted July 23, 2016 It shouldn't be a pity as to why I don't include the home owners account. The home involvement or lack thereof can be summarized in a few short sentence (hence my post above). Also I assume and maybe Im wrong for assuming, but I assume non-the-less. The level of investigations in this house (I've had) as the renter should automatically suggest each one requires home owner approval and home owner input. None of this was done in a vacuum. There are legal ramifications in play for this much exposure minus Home Owner approval. But like I said earlier the home owner (as he told me) and I believe him when he says this wants answers just like I do. I can't tell you how many times I get asked by friends, family, paranormal teams and etc "Does the home owner know?" "Did the home owner know?" "Will he or you disclose to future tenants?" Those are fair questions and the answer is "No" to my knowledge the home owner didn't know.. Until I have proof that he did I wont assume otherwise. And yes future tenants should know if a house is haunted. Obviously we didn't have that luxury of knowing. Its for that reason and that reason alone I decided to have the home thoroughly investigated and cleansed. But make no mistake about it as a home renter, non of my actions could have been successful without home owner approval. Your last question (i will answer ) People ask me a lot of questions. Obviously I miss a few. I can't see them all and he or she would do themselves good if they email me questions they think I've missed or overlooked. I don't get all the notifications when this forum gets updated. But I do check the inbox. I posted that link above because I truly believe some questions asked by you and other, (NOT ALL) Can be answered by watching the videos. Plus I think it helps to see the same answer coming from other peoples mouth and I know it helps to show the level of involvement by others, the setup involved which once again would never have taken place without home owner input. Its unfortunate people leap first to hoax, to fakery, to attention grabbing when information comes forth for the benefit of simply wanting to advance the discussion about the paranormal. I mean I'm not posting this stuff on Food and Wine forums, or Automobiles Are US forums. The place is named Unexplained Mysteries. I think Im within the rules of sharing an event. An ordeal that to this day we still don't know the root cause. We don't have all the answers. odds are we never will. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't share. Its 2016. Many of you are miles upon miles away from me. I can't beam you into the house and allow you front row seats to the activity. trust me I wish I could. What other medium should I use to share info? Teams with the interests and financial wherewithal have ventured to the house and left convinced. Its not my fault doubtsers, skeptics and thrown throwers cant reach the house. YouTube provides video upload access. Im using it to share info. The messenger always gets shot when upon delivering the message. Maligned, talked about, ridiculed, accused, innuendo thrown his or her way and above all else his motives questioned. I know that. That im afraid is a very unfortunate truth. Its probably why the previous tenants just left and told no one. Its probably why equal events such as ours go UN-reported. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 30, 2016 #41 Share Posted July 30, 2016 April 2016 Steve and Don returned to my house for Part 2 of their investigation. Steve, Don and SSPR Nick Kyle[http://www.sspr.co.uk/] (all men with UK and Scottish accents) are clearly heard. Everyone knows my voice. The men are setting up and putting down motion detect devices. The devices are going off by themselves. THE TRIP WIRES. "No" EVP appears at 3:01. Thinking out loud, (trying to debunk) why the devices are going while we're in the room Steve says there(meaning the device might be sensitive to shadows) a whisper says "YES". at 5:20. "Yeah" at 5:23. LISTEN AT 5:29 us four men are talking, under our voice you hear a EVPs at 5:28,5:29, 5:30, 5:31. Mass whispers and mass murmuring. 7:25 "Yeah" . At 11:50 a new device goes off in the bathroom. We've never used this device before. ONE OF THE BEST EVPS EVER CAPTURED is about to happen. 12:12 "Ray" ....word, words and at 12:14 "Cable" 12:16 "Image Detector" 12:18" "Its the only way it can be powered like that." 12:20 "Go and lift one of these." When put together the conversation goes something like this. Trip Wire Motion goes off. Ray or his "Superior" probably set it off by accident or on purpose to determine what exactly is it. Voice One: Ray! unintelligible murmurs Voice Two: Cable Voice One: It's the only way it can be powered like that....go and lift one of these." NOTE: It is possible Voice One aka the Superior(as he's called) is doing all the talking. Not enough info to determine for sure. What is certain is they are talking. There are 1+ entities present. They admit to NOT being spirits in this video above based on one of the comments by Steve. this resembles previous videos I've shared HERE where during the actual investigation. The setup of gear and equipment. With voice recorders carefully put down near by. The entities voice get captured. Not heard in real-time. But heard when reviewed later. As I mentioned before the EVP's are not words, or grunts or howls. These are sentences that speak in real-time and are speaking about the current events within the home i.e. the investigation taken place. Extremely intelligent Extremely courious and this right here " "go and lift one these.." speaks volumes to mass amount of equipment I lost. Items gone missing in my home over 4 years. Whats new to them they will either sabotage or take out right. "Go and lift one of these." Feel free to slice, and dice the audio in whatever audio software you got. There are more voices. Many I could not make out. *this audio has not been edited in anyway. Only shortened due to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 30, 2016 #42 Share Posted July 30, 2016 On 7/23/2016 at 6:02 PM, Redefining Success said: It's a pity I didn't see the info about the home owner in any of the other forums in which you have used to spread your story, but I see you are soaking up the attention. Why do you feel the need to link a video on you replies? Boosting your view count? Well, depending on who Keith has spoken to in the media, he has claimed to be both the renter and to be the homeowner over the course of time. Right now in this thread, the claim is a renter. A few of Keiths threads have either been locked or dropped off here for various reasons... But this has been brought up before. And it's easily findable on google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 30, 2016 #43 Share Posted July 30, 2016 cant be too easy or you would have posted it. I'm noting how to ignore or fail to comment on the evidence presented. You're splitting hairs obviously in an effort to avoid the material presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 30, 2016 #44 Share Posted July 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, rashore said: Well, depending on who Keith has spoken to in the media, he has claimed to be both the renter and to be the homeowner over the course of time. Right now in this thread, the claim is a renter. A few of Keiths threads have either been locked or dropped off here for various reasons... But this has been brought up before. And it's easily findable on google. Exactly! It's only a matter of time till some one does a Google search and finds all the discrepancies in the story. The forums are closing the noose one at a time, yet some people don't know when to call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted July 30, 2016 #45 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Ray Cable It's the only way it can be powered like that Do you not think that this could be the investigators being recorded while setting up on a device(tape or digital) and the device being wiped and then used again but the previous recording has left an artifact which has become apparent on its next play back? Tbh, I couldn't care less anymore. The story changes wherever you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted July 30, 2016 #46 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Quote Do you not think that this could be the investigators being recorded while setting up on a device(tape or digital) and the device being wiped and then used again but the previous recording has left an artifact which has become apparent on its next play back? Instead of making an accusation(answering your own question) why not just ask a question? I promise I wont bite! The recorder that caught the evps above is mine. The video clearly states that (in my narration). And if you compare the voices, and scenario with the other videos and other audio that suggestion of yours is extremely and highly unlikely. Having said that I also mentioned at the very bottom of the original thread: feel free to slice and dice the audio as you will to add or take away from its authenticity. Quote The story changes wherever you go. Have no idea what you mean by changing. Whats changed? LOL the story is true, its impossible to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted September 19, 2016 #47 Share Posted September 19, 2016 http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm305/macqdor/Stafford Way/DOCUMENT_zpsqaz03y9l.jpg [UPDATE] Introduction. During the latter part of August 2015 SEP were directly contacted by the client (Mr. Keith Linder) regarding reported disturbances taking place at his home in Bothell, Seattle, Washington USA. He claimed that paranormal disturbances had been taking place with increasing frequency and severity since moving into the property with his partner (Tina) in 2012. Report https://macqdor.app.box.com/s/t35dyzi9ap21mscb85zqxkej7nhsxpz5 NEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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