Jarocal Posted May 27, 2017 #226 Share Posted May 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, WVK said: The piece referred to Sacsayhuaman I am aware of that. The site offers scribing, cutting, and polishing before going on to claim the stone is vitrified for which there is no evidence to show it is more than merely polished. The other link citing Protzen's incredulous quandry about how to repeatedly move the larger block poses no issue. Don't repeatedly move the larger blocks, set them and fill to them with the smaller ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted May 27, 2017 #227 Share Posted May 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, WVK said: How about the one above the gentleman's head? What about the one over the guy's head? Scribe the base to fit and cut the other stones to fit against it. Even scribing two sides would not prove insurmountable with a template. Again only the visible edge need have the precision the middle of the unseen side can be concave. One of your one links mentions that the blocks are set on concave surfaces. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #228 Share Posted May 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, seeder said: you just have to accept....nobody REALLY knows how they did it....and move along....but...it wasnt aliens, and laser beams or rock softening magic...just lots of people over many years with their crude metal tools For example: Gobekli Tepe Quote Back in the 1960s, surveyors in Turkey found an ancient buried complex composed of huge stone pillars arranged in a circle like Stonehenge, some of them 30 feet tall. What really knocked the monocles out of their eyes, however, was that this was much older than Stonehenge ... 6,000 years older! So those massive, ornate limestone pillars were carefully carved from a nearby quarry using hunks of flint rock and their bare hands. Having been dated to around 9000 B.C., Gobekli Tepe is thought to be the oldest human construction. That's further back than any of the ancient sites you learned about in history class. In fact, it's in the Stone Age, where the only things we knew how to build were likely to fall over in a stiff breeze Read more at http://www.sunnyskyz.com/blog/104/These-Ancient-Structures-Are-So-Advanced-They-Shouldn-t-Exist-Even-If-Built-Today#CLpqgtlWDsgTKhZ6.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted May 27, 2017 #229 Share Posted May 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, seeder said: For example: Gobekli Tepe But Gobekli Tepi only perplexes some due to the dating prior to agriculture. Sacsayhuaman which was constructed a couple millennia later has tight joints on it's blocks. There is actually a temple in Egypt with interlocking dry fit blocks post dating Gobekli Tepi yet before Sacsayhuaman. <dons tinfoil hat> Perhaps what we are looking at is an ancient globetrotting culture of nomadic stonemasons which over time have traversed the globe leaving behind these megalithic structures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted May 27, 2017 #230 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 hours ago, WVK said: "With all of the sites in the world and all of the claims of vitrification why has no one bothered to show it is true?" What about vitrified forts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitrified_fort http://brigantesnation.com/vitrified-forts Good example, but the material does not show that the surfaces have been melted as places where people are claiming it was used to shape rock. The wikipedia photo shows a jumble of rock that has been fused. It does not look anything at all like the shiny rocks people think is vitrified. I took a look at photos of the vitrified forts. They are all loosely stacked rocks with many cavities in the walls. These are not well shaped stones. The vitrified forts in the interesting article do not seem to have anything in common with the shaped stonework. Notice that some of the material was calcined. That is a chemical change such as that used to make cement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted May 27, 2017 #231 Share Posted May 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jarocal said: Perhaps what we are looking at is an ancient globetrotting culture of nomadic stonemasons which over time have traversed the globe leaving behind these megalithic structures. .......Knocks off your tinfoil hat and shouts to your brain, 'don't make me use my mallet of reasoning' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted May 27, 2017 #232 Share Posted May 27, 2017 3 hours ago, WVK said: Extremely difficult? Closer to impossible http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rlK6hxLAl-o/VTKs-_-1wkI/AAAAAAAACZg/rcU-tDnH878/s1600/sacsayhuaman.jpg The can't slip in a piece of paper is a lie, or didn't you know that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #233 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Ancient Delphi used similar methods...much older too, 550 BCE..... https://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4841706 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted May 27, 2017 #234 Share Posted May 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, seeder said: Ancient Delphi used similar methods...much older too, 550 BCE..... https://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4841706 Some believe that they used larger blocks because at one time it was easier to move and shape large blocks than to cut lots of smaller ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #235 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Part of the Bomarsund Fortress 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted May 27, 2017 #236 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, seeder said: Part of the Bomarsund Fortress I thought this fortress was 19th century or are you just doing example of that type of construction - I wonder how the Russians did it? lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted May 27, 2017 #237 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Hanslune said: I thought this fortress was 19th century or are you just doing example of that type of construction - I wonder how the Russians did it? lol Aliens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #238 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Easter Island, section of wall... http://bytesdaily.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/easter-island-and-its-statues-part-3.html Edited May 27, 2017 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #239 Share Posted May 27, 2017 thats the thing with those neuralisers....once the aliens got the earthman to build all this stuff in similar style in different countries round the globe.... they then neuralised the ancients and thats why we dont know how they did it. simples!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #240 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) Turkey now Alaca Höyük https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaca_Höyük Edited May 27, 2017 by seeder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #241 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, stereologist said: The can't slip in a piece of paper is a lie, or didn't you know that? same lie they repeat about the Great Pyramid... But you could get a rolled up newspaper in many places Edited May 27, 2017 by seeder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #242 Share Posted May 27, 2017 so when the OP returns and see's the evidence Ive posted above from different countries... perhaps he will realise that the Inca work was just a tidier version.... hows and whys dont progress the conversation as the archaeologists dont know, but at that time, many different parts of the world did know.... a good old fashioned mystery...... but....no alienz and lasers required Necessity is ... and always will be.... the mother of invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #243 Share Posted May 27, 2017 so WVK....tell me why is this style of building found all over the world? Easter Island is VERY similar to the Inca isnt it? How come they all figured it out...back then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted May 27, 2017 Author #244 Share Posted May 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, seeder said: so when the OP returns and see's the evidence Ive posted above from different countries... perhaps he will realise that the Inca work was just a tidier version.... hows and whys dont progress the conversation as the archaeologists dont know, but at that time, many different parts of the world did know.... a good old fashioned mystery...... but....no alienz and lasers required Necessity is ... and always will be.... the mother of invention Why would aliens build with stone? More likely stainless steel or something... Anyhow the vitrification issue has been beaten to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 27, 2017 #245 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WVK said: Anyhow the vitrification issue has been beaten to death. so have all the previous versions of this topic. And theres been a few over the years, man once HAD to build with the polygonal masonry style as he had no mortar....plus buildings made from interlocking stones with no mortar are more likely to withstand earthquakes.. Edited May 27, 2017 by seeder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted May 27, 2017 #246 Share Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, WVK said: How about the one above the gentleman's head? No more than about 4.5 tons, assuming it's at least a yard deep (behind it.) Probably less (that's Yucay limestone which weighs in at a little over 2.5 tons per cubic yard.) Harte Edited May 27, 2017 by Harte 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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