Black Red Devil Posted May 29, 2016 #26 Share Posted May 29, 2016 When's the referendum? On the 23rd of June, that's right, less than a month away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted May 29, 2016 #27 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I'm confused... why did David even call for a in/out referendum in the first place if he's so hell bent on incorporating more country's into the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted May 30, 2016 #28 Share Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 5:39 AM, Leto_loves_melange said: I'm confused... why did David even call for a in/out referendum in the first place if he's so hell bent on incorporating more country's into the EU. Because the political party UKIP, has made gains which was taking Votes away from Labour and David Camerons Tory party. So the Tory back bench MP's started to get worried, in order to quell an uprising in his party by those on the back benches he promised a Referendum thinking at the time he wouldn't have to honour that pledge because a win an outright majority win looked impossible, and in all likelihood the polls were pointing to the next government being a coalition, and So David Cameron would be saved by the Coalition the second party not agreeing to the referendum, So David Cameron could point and say look i wanted a referendum but the Coalition partner wont vote for it so. No referendum. and then we'd all conveniently forget about it. - But events never turned out like the polls suggested, David Cameron's party won a majority so he had to keep his promise or face a rebellion in his own party. - So, that's why we have a Referendum and thats why he wants to remain in, he never wanted us to have the vote in the first place. his hand was forced. All political careers end in failure and Cameron's will be no different, If the Vote Leave side win, Cameron will have to resign the next day followed by those on the front bench who talked the country down and who campaigned for Remain Osborne etc.. followed quickly by the others. Because you couldnt have these people going in to bat for your team when they were part of the opposition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted May 30, 2016 #29 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, stevewinn said: Because the political party UKIP, has made gains which was taking Votes away from Labour and David Camerons Tory party. So the Tory back bench MP's started to get worried, in order to quell an uprising in his party by those on the back benches he promised a Referendum thinking at the time he wouldn't have to honour that pledge because a win an outright majority win looked impossible, and in all likelihood the polls were pointing to the next government being a coalition, and So David Cameron would be saved by the Coalition the second party not agreeing to the referendum, So David Cameron could point and say look i wanted a referendum but the Coalition partner wont vote for it so. No referendum. and then we'd all conveniently forget about it. - But events never turned out like the polls suggested, David Cameron's party won a majority so he had to keep his promise or face a rebellion in his own party. - So, that's why we have a Referendum and thats why he wants to remain in, he never wanted us to have the vote in the first place. his hand was forced. All political careers end in failure and Cameron's will be no different, If the Vote Leave side win, Cameron will have to resign the next day followed by those on the front bench who talked the country down and who campaigned for Remain Osborne etc.. followed quickly by the others. Because you couldnt have these people going in to bat for your team when they were part of the opposition. Thanks for the in-depth reply. But the problem as i see it is that a large section of the tory constituency is and always was in favour of Brexit. This is one battle that Dave was never gonna win. Cameron will have to court labour voters in order to keep Britain in the EU and himself as PM. Politics make for strange bed fellows and now he's even teamed up with the new Mayor of London, Khan, to defeat Tory Boris Johnson. Wont be long after the referendum regardless of the result before the knives come out and Cameron feels them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted May 30, 2016 #30 Share Posted May 30, 2016 38 minutes ago, Leto_loves_melange said: Thanks for the in-depth reply. But the problem as i see it is that a large section of the tory constituency is and always was in favour of Brexit. This is one battle that Dave was never gonna win. Cameron will have to court labour voters in order to keep Britain in the EU and himself as PM. Politics make for strange bed fellows and now he's even teamed up with the new Mayor of London, Khan, to defeat Tory Boris Johnson. Wont be long after the referendum regardless of the result before the knives come out and Cameron feels them. the knives are out already http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/29/this-unbelievably-violent-quotation-shows-how-vicious-the-brexit-debate-has-become-5911659/ An extraordinary quote from a ‘Brexit-backing’ MP in the Sunday Times said: ‘I don’t want to stab the prime minister in the back — I want to stab him in the front so I can see the expression on his face. ‘You’d have to twist the knife, though, because we want it back for [George] Osborne.’ . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted May 30, 2016 #31 Share Posted May 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, bee said: the knives are out already http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/29/this-unbelievably-violent-quotation-shows-how-vicious-the-brexit-debate-has-become-5911659/ "I don’t want to stab the prime minister in the back — I want to stab him in the front so I can see the expression on his face." Most entertaining quote to come out of the whole Referendum debate, and from a Tory MP too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted May 30, 2016 #32 Share Posted May 30, 2016 . all we need to bear in mind where Cameron is concerned is that he's a traitor in a long line of traitors since WW2 who seem determined give the country away --- . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted May 30, 2016 #33 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, LV-426 said: "I don’t want to stab the prime minister in the back — I want to stab him in the front so I can see the expression on his face." Most entertaining quote to come out of the whole Referendum debate, and from a Tory MP too I know --- then twist it because they want it back for Osborne --- I laughed out loud when I heard that on the telly last night --- . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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