.ZZ. Posted June 4, 2016 #226 Share Posted June 4, 2016 18 hours ago, Yamato said: When govt takes your guns, takes your house, slaughters your children, cuts off your freedom of mobility and puts you on a diet because of of Timothy McVeighs and Eric Rudolphs, you'll do what? Assume the posture? When govt is so stupid and evil that it's criminally insane, come to expect terrible results every time. If "they" try to do all of that the only position I will "assume" is the prone auto-weapon-aiming variety. Just watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 4, 2016 #227 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Good grief, who is it that talks about all the scaremongering again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted June 4, 2016 #228 Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 hours ago, ZZ430 said: If "they" try to do all of that the only position I will "assume" is the prone auto-weapon-aiming variety. Just watch... The first deputy or bureaucrat you shoot will make you a Palestinian on Fox News Channel, congratulations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted June 4, 2016 #229 Share Posted June 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Yamato said: But Iran can't react to the threats they're getting, of course! Israel threatens Iran repeatedly with military attacks. Iran does not. And what threats are those? How often does Iran attack Israel verbally and physically by proxy? What truth? That’s right, you wouldn’t know the truth if it hit it you in the face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted June 4, 2016 #230 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Yamato said: If Israel attacked Iran after all these years of talking about it, we wouldn't be doing Israel's job. Sounds good. Israel has been talking all of these years of responding to the Iranian threats. The Iranians keep pushing and Israel has remained calm and self-controlled. So why does Israel want to attack Iran? Does it want to conquer the territory? The problem is they can't. Not without our help. Actually, I believe they could without our help. I’m sure that if a launch against Israel was imminent, they could strike before launch. That would indicate that they have infiltrated the Iranian military complex. We could. But even we're not that crazy. Obama's not that stupid. No, he’s not stupid, he’s enabling the chaos. He’s doing everything to punish America. Trump will put an end to that. Israel would have Israeli pilots over Iranian airspace and Iranian radar with no fuel to dogfight up against Iranian jets with fuel to dogfight. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the IDF losses piling up. I guess you don’t understand logistics and planning. First of all, depending on the target, an Israeli strike will be lightning fast. There won’t be dogfights. If the need requires more time, there’s this thing called mid-air refueling. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/4/22/1203989/-U-S-Selling-Israel-Advanced-Refueling-Tanker-Planes-Needed-for-Iran-Strike-in-New-Arms-Deal http://www.timesofisrael.com/iaf-conducts-long-range-drill-over-greek-waters/ If it requires more time, then air defense (bases & AA batteries) and command & control sites will be neutralized first, then the main target will be attacked. Getting there may require all kinds of subterfuge. I can think of several ways involving civilian flights. Whatever it is, you know that the Israeli planners have looked at everything and has it planned down to the minutiae of detail. I don't know what bombs Israel will be bringing but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they invented their own 10,000 lb bunker busters in house and started revealing them for the first time. They’ll bring what they need. I see one scenario where they would take a select airstrip just long enough to bring in cargo planes to refit every plane 1 or 2 times. Between Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, they have the needed experience for this kind of raid and they are extremely good at it. And of course they'll be having to make emergency landings in Iraq on our airbases and we'll be tripped right into the war, oh jolly. If Obama had common sense and I think he does, he's put the brakes on Netanyahu's big Iran plan. I'm not convinced for an instant that Trump would do this. I don’t know about that. Necessity makes for strange bedfellows. Who else is an enemy of Iran? I suspect that Israel and Saudi Arabia may have a “Zhejiang/Iwo Jima”-like plan. And were it to come? The damage to Iran would be negligible, and Iran would have more financial and scientific assistance including help with making nukes, or may even be given a few dozen nukes, to have the shield of mutually assured destruction with their old bud in the world Israel. I disagree. We’ll just have to wait and see when it happens. Israel won’t use her nukes unless Iran is on the verge of over running the country and that isn’t going to happen any time soon. No one is going to be arming Iran with nukes. She’ll already have them. Iran would use them on Saudi Arabia as well. I suspect that the mullahs will be watching the election real closely. They are going to be accelerating their time table to attack Israel. This summer will be interesting. I suspect that if Trump wins in November, Khamenei will seriously consider striking by the end of the year. But I’m sure that Israel has eyes on the inside. This would be "square" between the US and Russia in the Middle East. We have our shining white settlements on hills (in the West Bank), and they have their nuclear puppet out east too. Looks like a standoff. That would mean the party's over. People think Iran is "terrorist" because it helps a couple of Israel's neighbors to defend themselves against Israel. To them that is the meaning of the word terrorist. That’s not why Iran is a terrorist nation. It is because it seeks to usher in the time of the 12th Imam. And its irrational hatred of Israel and anything not Islamic. Plus, those neighbors are terrorist entities and vassals of Iran. So Israel is actually already has been reacting to Iranian aggression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartmut Posted June 28, 2016 #231 Share Posted June 28, 2016 On 5/27/2016 at 1:56 PM, Yamato said: He should just let his hair go au naturale and he'd probably look like a viking. But that's starting to sound like a borderline homosexual Republican homophobe. What did Gargamel say that he'd wind up starting WW3? Where to begin?! Torture, there's one. Gee does anyone think that if we can openly criminally torture people in this country that we're not going to get attacked by terrorists for it? What new brain damage is this? The same Brain-Damage that has afflicted mankind since we jumped out of the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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