Myles Posted May 27, 2016 #1 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I was just curious of your thoughts on this. http://www.gigalresearch.com/uk/publications-sphinx-secret.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted May 27, 2016 #2 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Probably would get better attention in the Alternative History forum. It's been discussed here a few times, can't find the threads at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted May 27, 2016 #3 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Probably would get better attention in the Alternative History forum. It's been discussed here a few times, can't find the threads at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 28, 2016 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, shadowsot said: Probably would get better attention in the Alternative History forum. It's been discussed here a few times, can't find the threads at the moment. 1 hour ago, shadowsot said: Probably would get better attention in the Alternative History forum. It's been discussed here a few times, can't find the threads at the moment. That was so important you said it twice. Twice. But I am in agreement. Technically this fits better under Alternative History, so I've moved it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted May 28, 2016 #5 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Been having that issue on my mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 28, 2016 #6 Share Posted May 28, 2016 So the above was my moderatorly duty, but now I can comment. This subject has actually been brought up at UM numerous times but has real staying power. In this case I am puzzled by some of the sources to which the author of the page turns, and some of the conclusions he reaches. Why stress the Greek inscription, for instance? While the author Arrianos might well in fact be the same Arrian who wrote a history of Alexander, the inscription dates to 166 CE and so cannot possibly have anything to do with the origin of the Sphinx—which was well over 2,500 years before the time of Arrianos. The idea that the Sphinx was originally a figure of Anubis belongs originally, I believe, to Robert Temple. And the author of the web page relies heavily on Temple. Temple is neither a scholar nor an academic but a fringe or alternative writer. And the weaknesses in Temple's conclusions are quite evident. Some are repeated in this web article. For example, "Lake of the Jackal" in the Pyramid Texts is not a reference to the Sphinx nor the enclosure surrounding it, but is a reference among many others to features of the underworld. One also sees them in much later netherworld texts like the Amduat. These references might very well refer to the underworld god Anubis, or to other prominent early canid deities like Wepwawet, but no academic connection can be made between this and the Sphinx. The author also misrepresents historical documentation of the Sphinx. To date simply none has been found from the Old Kingdom, although the form of the sphinx (man's head with lion's body) predates the big one at Giza in at least one instance. We honestly don't know what Egyptians of the Old Kingdom called the Sphinx and exactly what all it meant to them. We don't even have a name for the Sphinx until the New Kingdom, when Giza experienced a cultic resurgence and the Sphinx was called Horemakhet (Horus in the Horizon). That was almost a thousand years after the Sphinx had been carved from the limestone bedrock. There is nothing crazy about the idea of a large jackal statue, given this creature's associations with the dead and the underworld from the dawn of pharaonic civilization. But there is no real evidence that the Sphinx was originally Anubis. Anyone familiar with the levels of limestone that compose the Sphinx is aware of how friable and delicate many of them are, and how the Sphinx has suffered repeated natural erosion down through time. Temple's own graphic representation of the Sphinx as Anubis (see the web page) reveal how wildly unrealistic such a colossal statue would've been. The snout and ears would've collapsed under their own weight. As for the age of the Sphinx, authors have played with pushing it back by centuries or even millennia. Actual scientific analysis of the monument contradicts such speculation. Analysis conducted by the Giza Plateau Mapping Project has established that the Sphinx was carved as an integral part of the Khafre pyramid complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 28, 2016 #7 Share Posted May 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, shadowsot said: Been having that issue on my mobile. Many posters have been having issues, and some patches Saru put in today have caused lagging issues when submitting posts. Things should function just fine once the database is completely rebuilt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundew Posted May 28, 2016 #8 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Isn't the head of the statue out of proportion with the rest of the body? I think I had read or heard somewhere that it was originally a lion's head and much later, in carving the face of a pharaoh, it had to be greatly reduced hence the odd size of the head. But that could be completely wrong, it was just something I remember someone saying in passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted May 28, 2016 #9 Share Posted May 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said: Many posters have been having issues, and some patches Saru put in today have caused lagging issues when submitting posts. Things should function just fine once the database is completely rebuilt. I know. Took me a minute to get used to the new site but liking it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted May 28, 2016 #10 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The Sphinx was originally in the form of Our Past Basset Masters. It is known. It was subsequently deformed, possibly by the corgis or the wiener dogs. They've always resented their shaming loss in the Great Short-Legged Wars. --Jaylemurph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 28, 2016 #11 Share Posted May 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, jaylemurph said: The Sphinx was originally in the form of Our Past Basset Masters. It is known. It was subsequently deformed, possibly by the corgis or the wiener dogs. They've always resented their shaming loss in the Great Short-Legged Wars. --Jaylemurph That is possible, but I'd suspect the damage was done by the mysterious race of ruling felines: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted May 28, 2016 #12 Share Posted May 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said: That is possible, but I'd suspect the damage was done by the mysterious race of ruling felines: Ah yes the evil usurpers who actually "gave Eve the Apple" (while blaming it on a serpent) and plunged humanity (as a whole) into over 25,000 years of a dark age. Would that humankind cast off the fetters of ignorance and strife perpetuated by the feline race and renew fealty to our divine Basset Masters (may their ears be ever long), returning the values like love, loyalty, and an advancement of understanding to our race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 28, 2016 #13 Share Posted May 28, 2016 44 minutes ago, Jarocal said: Ah yes the evil usurpers who actually "gave Eve the Apple" (while blaming it on a serpent) and plunged humanity (as a whole) into over 25,000 years of a dark age. Would that humankind cast off the fetters of ignorance and strife perpetuated by the feline race and renew fealty to our divine Basset Masters (may their ears be ever long), returning the values like love, loyalty, and an advancement of understanding to our race. I cannot agree due to my unyielding fealty to the feline race: Life, Prosperity, Catnip! Who do you think actually rules the beloved Cabal of Academia? Meow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted May 28, 2016 #14 Share Posted May 28, 2016 15 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: Who do you think actually rules the beloved Cabal of Academia? Me. --Jaylemurph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted May 28, 2016 #15 Share Posted May 28, 2016 20 hours ago, Sundew said: Isn't the head of the statue out of proportion with the rest of the body? I think I had read or heard somewhere that it was originally a lion's head and much later, in carving the face of a pharaoh, it had to be greatly reduced hence the odd size of the head. But that could be completely wrong, it was just something I remember someone saying in passing. The head has been heavily eroded and the beard stolen. The body and flanks have been built up and overlaid with repairs, more than once while the head seems to have been unrepaired ( 'undeveloped' ) .. That will put anything out of proportion . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted May 29, 2016 #16 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The limestone of the head is also the most fragile -- it's unlikely anything with a snout as long as Anubis' was intended. The nose would have fallen off rather quickly. And as BackToEarth added, the Sphinx was repaired in antiquity. Many of today's exterior blocks are actually the add-ons of repair. I should add that when you're standing in front or around it, the head does not look disproportionate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2016 #17 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It was supposed to be a new bus? what happened to the old bus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted May 31, 2016 #18 Share Posted May 31, 2016 On May 29, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Sir Wearer of Hats said: It was supposed to be a new bus? what happened to the old bus? Damnit, you actually made me sit and concentrate on this. I must be a bit slow lately. It took me awhile to get it. That's sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted May 31, 2016 #19 Share Posted May 31, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 1:57 PM, Sir Wearer of Hats said: It was supposed to be a new bus? what happened to the old bus? The 'special bus'? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted May 31, 2016 Author #20 Share Posted May 31, 2016 On 5/27/2016 at 9:18 PM, kmt_sesh said: That was so important you said it twice. Twice. But I am in agreement. Technically this fits better under Alternative History, so I've moved it. Thanks for taking care of it. I was surprised when I did a search that I couldn't locate anything on this subject. I suppose is may have been an update issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted May 31, 2016 #21 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Likely Guy said: The 'special bus'? GUYS, you are getting off track it clearly says 'a new bisque' Ingredients for ancient Egyptian bisque 2 1-pound live lobsters 2 tablespoons olive oil 1 onion, sliced 1 large celery stalk, sliced 1 small carrot, sliced 1 garlic head, cut in half crosswise 1 tomato, sliced 2 tablespoons chopped fresh tarragon 2 tablespoons chopped fresh thyme 2 bay leaves 8 whole black peppercorns 1/2 cup brandy 1/2 cup dry Sherry 4 cups fish stock or bottled clam juice 1/4 cup tomato paste 1/2 cup whipping cream 2 teaspoons cornstarch mixed with1 tablespoon water 1 large limestone rock (tura is the best) Edited May 31, 2016 by Hanslune 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted May 31, 2016 #22 Share Posted May 31, 2016 All you a-holes have a reading disorder. Obviously, the OP thinks that the Sphinx supposedly represents a new form of Bes. You know the feeling - the "Aha" moment. I have no idea where he gets the idea, given that Bes was a midget and the Sphinx is large. Maybe that's why the "new" Bes. Harte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted May 31, 2016 #23 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Its Newbees harte N E W B E E S, durn it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted June 1, 2016 #24 Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Harte said: All you a-holes have a reading disorder. Obviously, the OP thinks that the Sphinx supposedly represents a new form of Bes. You know the feeling - the "Aha" moment. I have no idea where he gets the idea, given that Bes was a midget and the Sphinx is large. Maybe that's why the "new" Bes. Harte Bes on hormones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted June 1, 2016 #25 Share Posted June 1, 2016 The sphinx was an ancient giant mech built to defend the planet from alien attacks. Saw it on TV, s'true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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