Anomalocaris Posted May 29, 2016 #1 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Quote A zoo shot and killed a 17-year-old gorilla that grabbed and dragged a four-year-old boy who fell into the gorilla exhibit moat on Saturday afternoon, the Cincinnati Zoo's director said. See more Edited May 29, 2016 by Daughter of the Nine Moons Merged duplicate threads /edit title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rashore Posted May 29, 2016 Popular Post #2 Share Posted May 29, 2016 These stories always distress me. The enclosures and fences and all that are there for a darn good reason. And when someone goes on in anyway, or fails to pay mind to their small child and they get in... Well then, the result is the fault of the animal and it must be put down. Not cool 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcgram Posted May 29, 2016 #3 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It's a no win situation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 29, 2016 #4 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Itd be better if....there were a fast acting tranquilliser dart to put the gorilla to sleep...but then again, those of us with kids would probably pull that trigger if that were us! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted May 29, 2016 #5 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I don't see the zoo had much choice in the matter. Dart an animal he is going react to the pain before the tranquilliser can take affect, putting the child in grave danger. I am glad the child was saved. No matter how well you watch a child they can slip away on you really quick. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted May 29, 2016 #6 Share Posted May 29, 2016 the gorilla was not endangering the child. reminds me of the other case where the alpha stood guard over the boy, until rescue could get him. if the gorilla wanted to hurt the boy ten minutes is a long time to wait. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 29, 2016 #7 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Quote 'RIP Harambe': Fury at parents of boy who was heard ASKING to play in endangered gorilla's pen before crawling in - 'forcing' zoo to shoot silverback dead despite claims it was 'protecting' the child Cincinnati Zoo shot and killed the 17-year-old Harambe after the boy fell into a moat inside gorilla exhibit on Saturday Authorities said boy crawled through railing and fell about 10ft, and spent more than 10 minutes in the enclosure Witness heard boy saying he wanted to get in the water, but his mother, who was taking care of several children, told him 'no' Boy was taken to hospital with serious but 'non-life threatening' injuries More than a thousand have joined Facebook group 'Justice for Harambe' Others blamed parents for not looking after their son and called it 'murder' Western lowland gorillas are deemed critically endangered by WWF Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3615099/Outrage-directed-parents-Harambe-gorilla-s-senseless-death-four-year-old-son-fell-enclosure-led-zoo-officials-fatally-shoot-animal.html#ixzz4A4lHX6AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted May 29, 2016 #8 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Stupid parents. Stupid compound designer. Congratulations to all involved, except the Gorilla. . Edited May 29, 2016 by toast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted May 29, 2016 #9 Share Posted May 29, 2016 A 4 year old boy crawled into a gorilla enclosure in a Cincinnati, Ohio zoo and zoo security killed the animal in fear of harm to the boy. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/killed-gorilla-seemed-protect-child-who-fell-enclosure-witness-n582311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 29, 2016 #10 Share Posted May 29, 2016 If the gorilla wanted to kill the kid, that kid would be dead. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted May 29, 2016 #11 Share Posted May 29, 2016 parents should be charged with child endangerment. imo. if they paid enough attention, kid would not crawl into gorilla's cage, and gorilla would be alive. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted May 29, 2016 #12 Share Posted May 29, 2016 When I did a search on Gorilla, It kept giving me ufo topics. I think my laptop is drunk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted May 29, 2016 #13 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The gorilla didn't do any real harm. Just drug the kid through the water away from the crowd. I don't think it intended to hurt the kid. But I'm sure that zoo officials thought that if the gorilla did do harm, they would get blame for not making a swift decision. Still though, I hope the parents get charged for child negligence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted May 29, 2016 #14 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Gorillas preferred food is veg based...... had that been a Lion enclosure I could understand the killing... heck if that had been one of my boys at same age....Id have been IN that enclosure.. getting my boy back....or trying to 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactic Goatman Posted May 30, 2016 #15 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Yet another ape must die due to human negligence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah_444 Posted May 30, 2016 #16 Share Posted May 30, 2016 No one really wins the blame game here. I don't know what the enclosures are like at the zoo, or how exactly this kid managed to get through, but I would think that it would have to take more than the blink of an eye to do it. But, obviously it was possible, and we have no way of knowing what a very large, unpredictable animal might or might not have done in this situation. That boy (or anyone else) should have never been able to make it into the enclosure to begin with. Sad that he got through without no one (siblings, parents, any of the so many bystanders) noticing until it was too late to stop him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted May 30, 2016 #17 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Not only could a gorilla be unpredictable, but they are unbelievably strong! A gorilla could kill an average 4 year old just with rough handling, completely unintentionally. Or if feeling his territory was invaded...who knows what could happen. What amazes me is the vitriol towards the parents...since when did it become okay to revere the life of an animal and not a human child? If anything there should be regret that this action was necessary and questions about the safety of the enclosure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted May 30, 2016 #18 Share Posted May 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, skliss said: Not only could a gorilla be unpredictable, but they are unbelievably strong! A gorilla could kill an average 4 year old just with rough handling, completely unintentionally. Or if feeling his territory was invaded...who knows what could happen. What amazes me is the vitriol towards the parents...since when did it become okay to revere the life of an animal and not a human child? If anything there should be regret that this action was necessary and questions about the safety of the enclosure. I think the issue here is that it isn't EASY to go into animal enclosures, you have to be seriously neglectful in order to allow your kid to just "fall in". Watch your damn kids, that's the issue. It wasn't as if the Gorilla escaped, charged the boy and was going to kill him. There are safety measures in place for a reason, and the parents didn't heed them. An innocent creature died because of the stupidity of the parents. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted May 30, 2016 #19 Share Posted May 30, 2016 You have no idea if they heeded safety measures or not...were you there?! Are you a parent? Do you have any idea how quickly a kid can slip out of your grasp and crawl into a space you can't reach them in? The article said the mother was handling several other children as well as this one. Kid's are completely unpredictable. It's a shame this set of circumstances resulted in the death of an animal but the life of a child is more important imo. I think a review of the enclosures at this particular zoo are in order. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted May 30, 2016 #20 Share Posted May 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, skliss said: You have no idea if they heeded safety measures or not...were you there?! Are you a parent? Do you have any idea how quickly a kid can slip out of your grasp and crawl into a space you can't reach them in? The article said the mother was handling several other children as well as this one. Kid's are completely unpredictable. It's a shame this set of circumstances resulted in the death of an animal but the life of a child is more important imo. I think a review of the enclosures at this particular zoo are in order. I understand that kids are hard to handle but I have also been to several Zoos and I know that it's not super easy to get inside the enclosure. This may be unpopular but I also don't think a human life is any more valuable or worthwhile than that of an animal, I just don't. To think that we are worth more because we have a higher consciousness is incredibly vain. It's just how I feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Buzzkill Posted May 31, 2016 #21 Share Posted May 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Rinna said: This may be unpopular but I also don't think a human life is any more valuable or worthwhile than that of an animal, I just don't. Not only should this view be unpopular, but it's dangerous. If you truly feel this way, maybe you should feed yourself to a pig instead of the other way round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted May 31, 2016 #22 Share Posted May 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, Professor Buzzkill said: Not only should this view be unpopular, but it's dangerous. If you truly feel this way, maybe you should feed yourself to a pig instead of the other way round. I understand how it could be a slippery slope, but i'm entitled to my opinion. Thank you for the suggestion, but I will have to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted May 31, 2016 #23 Share Posted May 31, 2016 The faulty infrastructure that allowed a small child to get in, is to blame. How hard is it to stop that ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphorbia Posted May 31, 2016 #24 Share Posted May 31, 2016 4 hours ago, skliss said: You have no idea if they heeded safety measures or not...were you there?! Are you a parent? Do you have any idea how quickly a kid can slip out of your grasp and crawl into a space you can't reach them in? The article said the mother was handling several other children as well as this one. Kid's are completely unpredictable. It's a shame this set of circumstances resulted in the death of an animal but the life of a child is more important imo. I think a review of the enclosures at this particular zoo are in order. Only take in as many kids as you can handle. Obviously she exceeded her limit. I think it's partly the zoo's fault and partly the mothers. Harambe was taken in the prime of his life though through no fault of his own.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanato Posted May 31, 2016 #25 Share Posted May 31, 2016 16 hours ago, AustinHinton said: Yet another ape must die due to human negligence. One ape dead so another ape may live. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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