ExpandMyMind Posted June 24, 2016 #26 Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: The German people need a voice too. They should be allowed to say if they want to stay in the EU or not. They should be allowed to say if they want to reform border control and the migrant crises. It was a joke, Ella :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted June 24, 2016 #27 Share Posted June 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, TopToffee said: If we do,can we build the wall so that it includes Newcastle becoming part of Scotland?..Just south of the Angel of the North will do.Let the Scots have the rusty eyesore.! As long as the BPL keeps their professional football teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopToffee Posted June 24, 2016 #28 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Youll be fine with Newcastle.Think of them as Berwicks second string and you wont be far off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted June 24, 2016 #29 Share Posted June 24, 2016 5 hours ago, Susanc241 said: Unfortunately, Hadrian's Wall does not follow the current borderline between Scotland and England! We would be giving up a large tract of England if we did that - no, no, no! 4 hours ago, rashore said: I was unaware of that... But it would make sense that borders would change, lol. Perhaps we should consider reactivating the Antonine Wall.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 24, 2016 #30 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Ealdwita said: Perhaps we should consider reactivating the Antonine Wall.... Did not work then, why would it work now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinc12 Posted June 24, 2016 Author #31 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 hours ago, questionmark said: That one is not really thought through, see, they sit in Calais to get on a truck or boat to get to Britain, why should they go through Britain to get to Scotland first? Or perhaps you just didnt understand what I was talking about. I was not suggesting that they would travel from the channel tunnel to Scotland and then to England. What I meant is that if Scotland was part of the EU it would have to accept its quota of immigrants set by the EU and would be powerless to negotiate that...remember UK tried this before we left. The reason we left was it is imposable to control immigration when you are part of the EU. Scotland faced with uncontrolled immigration Like London and other parts of England have had to endure would be tempted to disperse these unwanted guests southward into England, that will not be on with the English who voted out of the EU hence we will wrap them in a big wall and let them stew in it! After all they wanted it so they can have it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 24, 2016 #32 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just now, Zinc12 said: Or perhaps you just didnt understand what I was talking about. I was not suggesting that they would travel from the channel tunnel to Scotland and then to England. What I meant is that if Scotland was part of the EU it would have to accept its quota of immigrants set by the EU and would be powerless to negotiate that...remember UK tried this before we left. The reason we left was it is imposable to control immigration when you are part of the EU. Scotland faced with uncontrolled immigration Like London and other parts of England have had to endure would be tempted to disperse these unwanted guests southward into England, that will not be on with the English who voted out of the EU hence we will wrap them in a big wall and let them stew in it! After all they wanted it so they can have it Given that the population of Scotland is quite small you would have to look for them with a microscope. And given that they will be either working or in the "assimilation Program" I tend to doubt that they have a big appetite to go to Britain... I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the Scots save from British migrants.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinc12 Posted June 24, 2016 Author #33 Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, questionmark said: Given that the population of Scotland is quite small you would have to look for them with a microscope. And given that they will be either working or in the "assimilation Program" I tend to doubt that they have a big appetite to go to Britain... I was thinking more along the lines of keeping the Scots save from British migrants.... What makes you think they will be working, 70% of immigrants are on benefits and a large number of them came for that reason only, I know as I worked in housing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted June 24, 2016 #34 Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Ealdwita said: Perhaps we should consider reactivating the Antonine Wall.... The amount lost by going by the Hdrian's Wall would be tiny! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted June 24, 2016 #35 Share Posted June 24, 2016 21 minutes ago, Zinc12 said: What makes you think they will be working, 70% of immigrants are on benefits and a large number of them came for that reason only, I know as I worked in housing. Please provide a source for the (ridiculous) claim that 70% of immigrants are on benefits. Immigrants are a NET contributor to the UK, so unless the 30% are all millionaires, I think you have an error in your math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted June 24, 2016 #36 Share Posted June 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Ealdwita said: Perhaps we should consider reactivating the Antonine Wall.... Ok, so now that I went and looked up borders due to my ignorance, lol.... That picture is kind of extra funny. You guys have been bat guano crazy for a long time over this chunk of land, haven't you? And I suppose from a tactical perspective, an Antonine Wall would feasibly work better on land. England has a stronger water force than Scottland or no? So England could have the water edge too. But if Scotland stayed with the EU, then it would be feasible that the EU would back Scotland in water force, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 29, 2016 #37 Share Posted June 29, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 10:44 AM, ExpandMyMind said: We don't have much immigration up here. It's difficult to move to a new country when you have to learn two languages instead of just the one. What would the second be? Polish? Or is the tongue of the Scots a thing of beauty all it's own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted June 29, 2016 #38 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 hour ago, and then said: What would the second be? Polish? Or is the tongue of the Scots a thing of beauty all it's own? Aye I was referring to the dialect. It's a language all on its own 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 29, 2016 #39 Share Posted June 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said: Aye I was referring to the dialect. It's a language all on its own You called that beautiful b****** of Gaelic and English a dialect? May McGregor's ghost hound you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted June 29, 2016 #40 Share Posted June 29, 2016 There will be no need for borders without a permit to work or access to benefits the flood will turn into a trickle, the question is will we give Scotland free access to the UK markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted June 29, 2016 #41 Share Posted June 29, 2016 On 24/06/2016 at 8:21 PM, Zinc12 said: Or perhaps you just didnt understand what I was talking about. I was not suggesting that they would travel from the channel tunnel to Scotland and then to England. What I meant is that if Scotland was part of the EU it would have to accept its quota of immigrants set by the EU and would be powerless to negotiate that...remember UK tried this before we left. The reason we left was it is imposable to control immigration when you are part of the EU. Scotland faced with uncontrolled immigration Like London and other parts of England have had to endure would be tempted to disperse these unwanted guests southward into England, that will not be on with the English who voted out of the EU hence we will wrap them in a big wall and let them stew in it! After all they wanted it so they can have it That's the thing about the Scots. They've not had to endure the huge rate of immigration that the English have. Scotland has only 5 million people - it would be the equivalent of England having only 10 million or so people rather than 53 million - and they are much more homogenously white than the English are. You very rarely see black or Muslims Scots. The Scots don't have to put up with pressures on the NHS and schools and housing caused by mass immigration like the English have to do. So no wonder they voted Remain (well, in reality, most Scottish voters DIDN'T vote Remain). But then you get some Scots calling the English "Little Englanders" for complaining about immigration, and I think: "Well, it's okay you Scots calling us that, but then you don't have to cope with uncontrolled immigration anywhere near as much as we English have to do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted June 29, 2016 #42 Share Posted June 29, 2016 On 6/24/2016 at 7:51 AM, rashore said: Rebuild Hadrian's Wall? Yeah, it's already there. Just rebuild and enforce it. So what if it doesn't follow a modern border, it was there for a reason. Keep those damned picts to the north where they belong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted June 29, 2016 #43 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) Immigration policy and checks. How does a country responsibly vet immigrants from third-world countries? I don't know. EDIT: No id, no nothing. Edited June 29, 2016 by pallidin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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