ellapenella Posted June 29, 2016 #26 Share Posted June 29, 2016 21 hours ago, Thorvir Hrothgaard said: Is anyone actually surprised? His behavior is typical. I'm not surprised. After i learned what i did about what he stood for i knew that he couldn't really care for America as in the America that our Fathers the founders built for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 29, 2016 #27 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) On 6/28/2016 at 5:34 PM, Yamato said: It's just like all these egged-faced Republicans now supporting Donald Trump, Ella. Party loyalty makes partisan shills and partisan sheeple. Hillary voted for Barry Goldwater? I bet next they'll tell us that MLK Jr was a Republican Stop being a mean to me because I'm voting for Trump. egg is good for many things , nothing about Hillary is good. Edited June 29, 2016 by Ellapennella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 29, 2016 #28 Share Posted June 29, 2016 hmp, why the similarity with the arrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted June 29, 2016 #29 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Ellapennella said: Stop being a mean to me because I'm voting for Trump. egg is good for many things , nothing about Hillary is good. Nowhere was I being mean to you. Trump was being mean to the Republicans I was referring to. Carly "Look at that face" Fiorina, Pathological Ben, Lying Ted, Little Marco, etc. But this is the ultimate betrayal of the anti-establishment movement that Sanders started, dumping his support behind Clinton like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 29, 2016 #30 Share Posted June 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, Yamato said: Nowhere was I being mean to you. Trump was being mean to the Republicans I was referring to. Carly "Look at that face" Fiorina, Pathological Ben, Lying Ted, Little Marco, etc. But this is the ultimate betrayal of the anti-establishment movement that Sanders started, dumping his support behind Clinton like this. Oh, I thought you were referring to this. Hey, you were the first to warn me about socialism,you said you are a capitalist. I know you don't like Hillary & I know that you know a 3rd party is not happening. You know what, Fiorina is a sell out Ben well, he's a nice guy, I like him, and Trump didn't really hit him hard in fact he stood up for him,helped him out after lying Ted did what he did and Marco is a youngster compared to them,he's little Marco. The entire focus of the establishment stopping trump is what created all this. I think Trump said things he said to them because he knew what they were planning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted June 30, 2016 #31 Share Posted June 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Ellapennella said: Oh, I thought you were referring to this. Hey, you were the first to warn me about socialism,you said you are a capitalist. I know you don't like Hillary & I know that you know a 3rd party is not happening. You know what, Fiorina is a sell out Ben well, he's a nice guy, I like him, and Trump didn't really hit him hard in fact he stood up for him,helped him out after lying Ted did what he did and Marco is a youngster compared to them,he's little Marco. The entire focus of the establishment stopping trump is what created all this. I think Trump said things he said to them because he knew what they were planning. I'm not really an -ist of any -ism. I think different systems of belief whether political or economic all have good and bad things they bring to the table. If capitalism is crony capitalism, or if unfettered capitalism means that the government controls the who/how/why it unfetters, then I'm no fan of any of that. I'm no fanboy of the fake-capitalism we have today. But I'm willing to look at foreign countries like those in Europe to see what they do well or better, and consider ways we might emulate them. Our good friends Canada and Australia and New Zealand also. As for the understanding of Trump v the Establishment, I do see some signs of that dynamic. It's almost rooted in necessity when his opponent is an Establishment princess like Hillary Clinton. In the totality of his ideas though, he grades lower than Hillary Clinton does on my chart. His ideas, that is, the changes he says he wants to make (disclaimer: subject to change every 72 hours), are, on balance, worse than what we have already. And what we have already is poor to middling in the areas he wants to address. Obviously with 11 million illegal/undocumented people here, with the seemingly permanent execution of a war we can't win, the trade deals and tax deals, the out of control spending, the disaster that's health care and education prices, the obviously unconstitutional policies making laughingstocks of our constitutional rights, there's a lot we could have done a lot better. So objectively I can appreciate agreeing with a messenger that's so critical. I just don't see the messenger delivering anything I want to invest in. His ideas are universally terrible. He said something about interstate competition which appealed to me. I can scrounge up another thing or two if I look for it. But a few nuggets of good in a sea of bad isn't good enough for me. You're more than welcome to vote for Trump. Doesn't bother me. As for me, Gary Johnson is running. That's pretty much the end of me having any kind of dog in the big meaningless Trump-Hillary dirtfight going on all around us every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 30, 2016 #32 Share Posted June 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Yamato said: I'm not really an -ist of any -ism. I think different systems of belief whether political or economic all have good and bad things they bring to the table. If capitalism is crony capitalism, or if unfettered capitalism means that the government controls the who/how/why it unfetters, then I'm no fan of any of that. I'm no fanboy of the fake-capitalism we have today. But I'm willing to look at foreign countries like those in Europe to see what they do well or better, and consider ways we might emulate them. Our good friends Canada and Australia and New Zealand also. As for the understanding of Trump v the Establishment, I do see some signs of that dynamic. It's almost rooted in necessity when his opponent is an Establishment princess like Hillary Clinton. In the totality of his ideas though, he grades lower than Hillary Clinton does on my chart. His ideas, that is, the changes he says he wants to make (disclaimer: subject to change every 72 hours), are, on balance, worse than what we have already. And what we have already is poor to middling in the areas he wants to address. Obviously with 11 million illegal/undocumented people here, with the seemingly permanent execution of a war we can't win, the trade deals and tax deals, the out of control spending, the disaster that's health care and education prices, the obviously unconstitutional policies making laughingstocks of our constitutional rights, there's a lot we could have done a lot better. So objectively I can appreciate agreeing with a messenger that's so critical. I just don't see the messenger delivering anything I want to invest in. His ideas are universally terrible. He said something about interstate competition which appealed to me. I can scrounge up another thing or two if I look for it. But a few nuggets of good in a sea of bad isn't good enough for me. You're more than welcome to vote for Trump. Doesn't bother me. As for me, Gary Johnson is running. That's pretty much the end of me having any kind of dog in the big meaningless Trump-Hillary dirtfight going on all around us every day. actually, we don't have to imitate anyone, we'r America, we have and always had the tools and means needed to access our highest standards of greatness & superiority ourselves, but we're not utilizing them. so to emulate others,no,not really... I'd rather just allow our selves to trade fairly and remain a nation not some internationalism global conversion of where Hillary and all the others (except for I think Ben Carson) who have all pledge their allegiance to those bad trade deals & china too...keep the bad deals going right??? not... you're saying things about Trump like you and without any reason to- other than you always come across as you care more for those here illegally than legal immigration. we have to have borders & laws. As for the war, and his ideas, we could have beaten isis down to nothing by now--you sound more and more like an ideologist same as Obama is, it's difficult for you to deny it if you read your posting and that ideology is the problem,not the solution... that's why we are losing at everything because of that ideology. So of course if you think like that you will never be able to comprehend others that value the truth in our heritage that comprehend Trump, and Washington, and Patton, and MacArthur. I'm not trying to understand your ideology anymore,I think I understand it all too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted June 30, 2016 #33 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted July 3, 2016 #34 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) I thought this was interesting. This lady put together a theory . What's your take about her theory?anyone? Edited July 3, 2016 by Ellapennella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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