LostSouls7 Posted June 29, 2016 #1 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I want know who has reached Zen, Nirvana , heaven? inner peace and bliss? How did you find and get there? What was the path you took? I just became a mage and a hippie and I am happy for the 1st time in a long time. I am a hippie, peace be with you my son. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted June 29, 2016 #2 Share Posted June 29, 2016 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StarMountainKid Posted June 29, 2016 #4 Share Posted June 29, 2016 "Relax, nothing is under control". This is true, except Nature is in control. There's a Zen saying, Sitting quietly, doing nothing, Spring comes And the grass grows by itself. Nothing makes the grass grow, it just grows. We sometimes have to make things happen, but when we have a certain quality of mind, when we are in sympathy and in harmony with ourselves and with our environment (society), what we make happen appears to have happened by itself, and it has, without overtly disturbing anyone. This is the Way of the Tao or of Zen. It's like the difference between boxing and judo. Judo is the 'gentle way' of defeating your enemies. In short, resisting a more powerful opponent will result in your defeat, whilst adjusting to and evading your opponent's attack will cause him to lose his balance, his power will be reduced, and you will defeat him. This can apply whatever the relative values of power, thus making it possible for weaker opponents to beat significantly stronger ones. This is the theory of ju yoku go o seisu. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo This is having great power in life. Just knocking people around to get what you want is not virtuous and is a cowardly act. I guess I'm digressing on the subject at hand.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 29, 2016 #5 Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Clair said: A student was visiting a Zen master. When he was about to leave the master asked, "Where are you going?" Student: "I'm going where it is changeless." Master: "How can you go where it is changeless?" Student: "My going is no change." I think this means when you have confidence in the stability and serenity of your mind it is much easier to deal with the chaos of life around you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted June 29, 2016 #6 Share Posted June 29, 2016 3 hours ago, LostSouls7 said: I want know who has reached Zen, Nirvana , heaven? inner peace and bliss? How did you find and get there? What was the path you took? I just became a mage and a hippie and I am happy for the 1st time in a long time. I am a hippie, peace be with you my son. I run 3 miles a day, I focus on my breath, which calms me, focuses me creates the space in my head for clarity i often resolves issues I have under contemplation, ideas pop in. In the meantime, my endorphins kick in, which I experience as bliss, inner peace, or Zen. I call it running meditation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSouls7 Posted June 29, 2016 Author #7 Share Posted June 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Sherapy said: I run 3 miles a day, I focus on my breath, which calms me, focuses me creates the space in my head for clarity i often resolves issues I have under contemplation, ideas pop in. In the meantime, my endorphins kick in, which I experience as bliss, inner peace, or Zen. I call it running meditation. Now that is wonderful! Yes inner peace is the key to reaching the Zen I love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted June 29, 2016 #8 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) By holding my hara at the centre of the Universe, extending ki, keeping my weight underside, and practicing no mind (clear blue sky), delaying gratification, withholding truth, checking the internal map, learning and teaching the work of the wand and the work of the sword ...... grasshopper ...... little hippy grasshopper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGpbSKAXRM Edited June 29, 2016 by back to earth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted June 29, 2016 #9 Share Posted June 29, 2016 * 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 29, 2016 #10 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Zen will have to wait, i am heading back to Bed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted June 29, 2016 #11 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have moments of zen pretty regular.. but I always come back to reality anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted June 29, 2016 #12 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Off and on, lately more off than on. Should get back into doing my Tai Chi. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 29, 2016 #13 Share Posted June 29, 2016 When I was about 14 I red "The Way of Zen" by Alan Watts. That made sense to me, as even at that young age, I described the way I felt about life. It was a recognition of someone else thinking as I did. Religion made no sense to me then or now. I like Watts, Jiddu Krishnamurti, D.T. Suzuki and Shunryu Suzuki. On Youtube there's videos of Mooji I like, although he's a Hindu, not much difference, really. The objection I see is, some become life-long students. I think there comes a moment when one should put the book down and just enjoy the experience. One needs knowledge to be pointed in the right direction, but the in the end it's not about knowledge, it's about a personal insight. Just my thoughts, I'm no expert on the subject. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted June 29, 2016 #14 Share Posted June 29, 2016 You may pursue zen and never obtain it, if you are zen you will always have it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 29, 2016 #15 Share Posted June 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, XenoFish said: You may pursue zen and never obtain it, if you are zen you will always have it. I agree, I think you have to be sort of born to it. Just to be interested in the first place means some disposition to the thing. From my knowledge, Taoism (or Daoism, whatever) was a philosophy in ancient China, then Buddhism arrived and was combined with the Tao, which became Ch'an Buddhism, which became Zen Buddhism in Japan. From my readings, there is more Taoism in Zen than Buddhism. One good book is, "The Tao of Zen" by Ray Grigg. Not the typical "The Tao of..." pop stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSouls7 Posted June 30, 2016 Author #16 Share Posted June 30, 2016 17 hours ago, freetoroam said: Zen will have to wait, i am heading back to Bed. Drinking a powerful potion,,, then a deep sleep in bed. is forum of zen to me as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealdwita Posted June 30, 2016 #17 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Not at Zen yet. Got on the wrong train at Crewe and missed my connection. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMountainKid Posted June 30, 2016 #18 Share Posted June 30, 2016 My Zen is having a calm and peaceful mind and watching everyone around me run frantically around in circles being self-consumed and creating their own problems. I just watch, though I can easily behave in the same way, and often do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted June 30, 2016 #19 Share Posted June 30, 2016 ..... well, one has to have a hobby of some type . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiXilver Posted July 3, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Seated in my chair. Drinking a cup of tea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSouls7 Posted July 7, 2016 Author #21 Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/3/2016 at 10:45 AM, quiXilver said: Seated in my chair. Drinking a cup of tea. yes! I drink relaxing tea.. puts me in a state of inner peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostSouls7 Posted July 7, 2016 Author #22 Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 6/30/2016 at 8:26 AM, StarMountainKid said: My Zen is having a calm and peaceful mind and watching everyone around me run frantically around in circles being self-consumed and creating their own problems. I just watch, though I can easily behave in the same way, and often do. I agree I am so calm about things. yet people run round like ants. I am like the bull sitting under the trees just smelling the flowers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podo Posted July 8, 2016 #23 Share Posted July 8, 2016 If anyone was enlightened and with full inner peace, I'm reasonably certain they wouldn't be on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Greenman Posted July 8, 2016 #24 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Podo said: If anyone was enlightened and with full inner peace, I'm reasonably certain they wouldn't be on this forum. Why not? Just because one is enlightened doesn't mean you don't have other interests. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 8, 2016 #25 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) On June 29, 2016 at 0:39 PM, StarMountainKid said: When I was about 14 I red "The Way of Zen" by Alan Watts. That made sense to me, as even at that young age, I described the way I felt about life. It was a recognition of someone else thinking as I did. Religion made no sense to me then or now. I like Watts, Jiddu Krishnamurti, D.T. Suzuki and Shunryu Suzuki. On Youtube there's videos of Mooji I like, although he's a Hindu, not much difference, really. The objection I see is, some become life-long students. I think there comes a moment when one should put the book down and just enjoy the experience. One needs knowledge to be pointed in the right direction, but the in the end it's not about knowledge, it's about a personal insight. Just my thoughts, I'm no expert on the subject. Great point, in the end it is about the experience. The Positive Psychology movement that has has **** as if Kate is basically a resurrection of Watts. The woman I am a companion for knew Alan Watts well. Edited July 8, 2016 by Sherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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