UM-Bot Posted July 14, 2016 #1 Share Posted July 14, 2016 A special security system outside the King's Chamber was intended to prevent thieves from breaking in. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/296704/ancient-machine-protected-the-great-pyramid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted July 14, 2016 #2 Share Posted July 14, 2016 After all these years, although the security equipment and buildings are more advance, the thieving barstools have not changed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strunk64 Posted July 15, 2016 #3 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) I'm sorry if this has been answered but, I have a question about the small tunnels that the robots explored. Have the exits of these tunnels been found? I've never seen any information on this. Thanks in advance. Edited July 15, 2016 by strunk64 half of my post didn't show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 15, 2016 #4 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Using the word 'machine' in the title is a little deceiving. More like covering and blocking the tunnels to conceal the passage ways leading to the treasure tomb (assuming one exists of course). Which would make more sense than creating a massive pyramid that screams 'treasure inside just find the entrance. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclopes500 Posted July 20, 2016 #5 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Theres a video on youtube called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclopes500 Posted July 20, 2016 #6 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Theres a video on youtube called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortle Posted July 20, 2016 #7 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Given my total lack of knowledge of archaeology and egyptology how could entire chambers go undetected for so long? Do contemporary geophysical anaysis not reveal such structures, or large spaces? or are the mapping tools we have at our disposal woefully insufficient to detect anything beyond a solid wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted July 27, 2016 #8 Share Posted July 27, 2016 they havnt gone undetected. 10 years ago scientists proved the pyramid had hollw spaces in the walls with machinery. egypt will not allow anyone to break the walls and see whats inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted July 27, 2016 #9 Share Posted July 27, 2016 27 minutes ago, fightzone said: they havnt gone undetected. 10 years ago scientists proved the pyramid had hollw spaces in the walls with machinery. egypt will not allow anyone to break the walls and see whats inside Which scientists with what evidence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted July 28, 2016 #10 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, shadowsot said: Which scientists with what evidence? i will look for the documentary. give me a few days to find it. watched it a long while back. this is not what i am searching for but may be of interest to someone https://www.yahoo.com/news/anomalies-found-thermal-scanning-egypt-pyramids-220500264.html?ref=gs Edited July 28, 2016 by fightzone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted July 28, 2016 #11 Share Posted July 28, 2016 10 hours ago, shadowsot said: Which scientists with what evidence? still not what i am looking for but this proves knowledge of hidden tunnels in 2002 and 2011. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1390843/Pyramid-finally-reveals-hidden-secrets-robot-captures-images-ancient-markings.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted July 28, 2016 #12 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, shadowsot said: Which scientists with what evidence? the french team that initially found the open spaces went in in 1986. they did not understand what they were looking at so they did not publish the finding. at approximately 28 minutes into this video they meet up with the architect that understands what they saw. i recommend watching the whole video. you dont have to believe it to find it interesting. found this on houdins facebook page. it was posted last month. http://www.seeker.com/great-pyramid-of-giza-analyzed-with-high-tech-scanners-1845131449.html Edited July 28, 2016 by fightzone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted July 28, 2016 #13 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'm a fan of the inside-out theory of building the pyramid, but I don't agree with Houdin that the magnetic scans show evidence of hollow corridors. Any huge pyramidal shape is going to have a spiraling magnetic fluctuation, due to the decreasing mass from bottom to top. I'm also a bit puzzled how, assuming the corner break that is claimed to be a possible turning point for the ramp, can have been in plain view for millenia, and yet no one has bothered to hop up there and check if there was anything worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingitsune Posted July 29, 2016 #14 Share Posted July 29, 2016 13 hours ago, fightzone said: the french team that initially found the open spaces went in in 1986. they did not understand what they were looking at so they did not publish the finding. at approximately 28 minutes into this video they meet up with the architect that understands what they saw. i recommend watching the whole video. you dont have to believe it to find it interesting. found this on houdins facebook page. it was posted last month. http://www.seeker.com/great-pyramid-of-giza-analyzed-with-high-tech-scanners-1845131449.html The video was well worth the 55 minutes it last. There are some extra feature after the credits, so stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted August 1, 2016 #15 Share Posted August 1, 2016 On 7/28/2016 at 8:30 AM, aquatus1 said: I'm a fan of the inside-out theory of building the pyramid, but I don't agree with Houdin that the magnetic scans show evidence of hollow corridors. Any huge pyramidal shape is going to have a spiraling magnetic fluctuation, due to the decreasing mass from bottom to top. I'm also a bit puzzled how, assuming the corner break that is claimed to be a possible turning point for the ramp, can have been in plain view for millenia, and yet no one has bothered to hop up there and check if there was anything worth looking at. the map is 3 dimensional and clearly shows missing density on the edges as much as it does toward the center. the break in the corner was noticed by an architect who is trained to have eye for details in a building. it never says nobody ever found that room before. perhaps someone else crawled up 100 years ago and found nothing. they wouldnt haave considered that to be some great find that needed to be published. heres the scans from 86 showing the spiraling lack of density. it seems some of it has caved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted August 1, 2016 #16 Share Posted August 1, 2016 11 hours ago, fightzone said: the map is 3 dimensional and clearly shows missing density on the edges as much as it does toward the center. the break in the corner was noticed by an architect who is trained to have eye for details in a building. it never says nobody ever found that room before. perhaps someone else crawled up 100 years ago and found nothing. they wouldnt haave considered that to be some great find that needed to be published. heres the scans from 86 showing the spiraling lack of density. it seems some of it has caved in. There is really nothing surprising about seeing decreasing density on the edges of a pyramid. Simply put, the edges are indeed decreasing in density, as the mass of the pyramid gets smaller and smaller the higher you go. As for the corner room, again, it seems to me a fairly simplistic sort of exploration that would require much less effort and red tape, to say nothing of being the least destructive sort of investigation, to conduct, and I find it difficult to believe that a theory that could be so strongly supported by something it has proposed would not have taken that step to verify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightzone Posted August 1, 2016 #17 Share Posted August 1, 2016 even if u look at it in 2 dimensions, you can see it has missing density in the center as much as at the edges.if you can see this image in 3 dimensions it helps. use the x in center of photo as walls reaching up to the peak in center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted August 1, 2016 #18 Share Posted August 1, 2016 That's backwards. Only by looking at in in 2 dimensions can you mistake the missing density in the center. Think about it: If you are looking at this as a 2-d image, then it seems strange to see diminishing density from the outside to the inside. If this was a 2d picture, then it would suggest that the area towards the center is less dense, and probably has a void of some kind. But that is because you are seeing a small gradient on the outside going to the inside. You are looking at it as if it were a 2d image. However, if you look at this as a 3d picture, if you imagine this as a top view, you would see this precisely as you would expect it to be. Look, think of it this way: Let's say that empty space was represented by water. The whole pyramid is immersed in a square tank full of water. You can't see into the tank. You have a device that measures the depth of water directly beneath it. You run that device over the top of the tank. What would you get as results? What you would see is a given depth of water on the sides, but as you get closer to the center, the depth gets smaller and smaller. We almost intuitively understand that this means there is some sort of pyramid-like object in the tank, as we can clearly picture in our minds the rise of the 3-d pyramid corresponding to the decreasing depth of the water in the tank. That is what makes sense to us. And that is pretty much what you need to do to understand this picture. Remember that this image is measuring the difference in density underneath it. It has no idea what it is taking a picture of; it doesn't know it is looking at a pyramid. All it is doing is crossing over and telling you the density beneath it (the depth of the water). If we weren't looking at a pyramid, but just a flat mound, then it would make sense to say there was a void in the center, because there is nothing else that can explain the decrease in density. If you are looking at a pyramid, however, it would be the other way around. But then, keep in mind that the 1986 use of the microgravitymeter was experimental, and they were looking to verify that there were holes where the gravitymeter said there were, which they were not able to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XClashGames Posted August 6, 2016 #19 Share Posted August 6, 2016 How long do you have to wait before graverobbing is considered historical science? As far as I see, scientists are essentially robbing the graves, putting all their valuables in a crap museum and storing the mummy on display for a bunch of tourists to gawk at, pretty disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted August 6, 2016 #20 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Whether it is graverobbing or historical science depends on what sort of claim the people complaining have to the remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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