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Was Saudi Arabia behind 9/11?


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Not strictly just Saudi Arabia mind you, but with the release of the 28 Pages, it looks more likely that the answer is yes, IMO.

It's true, from what I can tell so far, that there is no "smoking gun" evidence to show that "Official" Saudi Arabia was in on the 9/11 plot, but the overall information reveals quite a lot of connections to be sure.

I've found a few points of interest and plenty of confirmation of things I suspected before, so far. I still need to re-read it again though... probably a few times.


Here's Bob Graham's thoughts on the release of the partially redacted 28 Pages from the 9/11 Inquiry...


- "I think that this is, a solid case for the position that there is was significant Saudi involvement going up at least to the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar in the time leading up to 9/11."

Link

- "It's been exciting afternoon, but the trail is still substantial ahead of us," he said. "We have to have accountability from the CIA and the FBI for the several places they were asked to follow up on information that was developed prior to the release of the report"

- "Two-thirds of the hijackers had primary residences in Florida.'' Graham said. "There is still a lot more data to be mined as it relates to them."

Link

Graham is likely referring to the 80,266 pages of FBI investigation into the Florida end of 9/11 that was kept secret and hidden and never handed over to the Congressional Inquiry or the 9/11 Commission.

 

Now on the the 28 Pages...


Connections(I won't go too deep into these 2 guys as we've covered most of it already on this thread. The 28 Pages reinforce that information)...


Omar al Bayoumi and Osama Bassnan are Saudi nationals, very strongly suspected of being Saudi Intelligence agents, and were very instrumental in assisting at least 2 of the 9/11 hijackers in Khalid al Mihdhar and Newaf al Hazmi.

The evidence of Bayoumi and Bassnan being Saudi agents is very overwhelming and some of the money they received coincides to reinforce their assistance to the hijackers.

The 28 Pages lists numerous instances relating to both Bayoumi and Bassnan receiving funding from either the Saudi government or Saudi Royal family and both.

One such example... "The report states that during that trip a member of the Saudi Royal Family provided Bassnan with a significant amount of cash. FBI information indicates that Bassnan is an extremist and supporter of Usama Bin Laden, and has been connected to the Eritrean Islamic Jihad and the Blind Shaykh;"

The "Blind Shaykh" is a reference to Omar Abdel-Rahman aka "The Blind Sheikh" who is in jail for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

Bassnan's wife is the one receiving all the money from Prince Bandars' wife, Haifa.


28 Pages and Prince Bandar...


"The FBI has now confirmed that only Osama Bassnan's wife received directly money from Prince Bandar's wife, but that al-Bayoumi's wife attempted to deposit three of the checks from Prince Bandar's wife, which were payable to Bassnan's wife, into her own account."

"... the FBI located copies of 31 cashiers checks totaling $74,000, during the period February 22 1999 to May 30 2002."

"On at least one occasion, Bassnan received a check directly from Prince Bandar's account. According to the FBI, on May 14, 1998 Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000. Bassnan's wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar. She also received an additional check from Bandar's wife, which she cashed on January 6, 1998, for $10,000."

"On March 28, 2002, U.S. and coalition forces retrieved the telephone book of Abu Zubaida, whom the U.S. government has identified as a senior al-Qa'ida operational coordinator. According to an FBI document, "a review of toll records has linked several of the numbers found in Zubaida's with U.S. phone numbers". One of the numbers is unlisted and subscribed to by the ASPCOL Corporation in Aspen Colorado."

"According to the FBI's Denver Office, ASPCOL is the umbrella corporation that manages the affairs of the Colorado residence of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the United States."

"According to the FBI, the phone number of an individual named (REDACTED) of McLean, Virginia was found within the effects of Abu Zubaida. (REDACTED) is reportedly a bodyguard at the Saudi Embassy in Washington DC. The FBI now suspects that he may be a (REDACTED)... It also appears that (REDACTED) has been in contact with (REDACTED), which is located at (REDACTED), in McLean, Virginia. The FBI has identified this address as the address of Prince Bandar."

"The U.S. Government also located another Virginia number at an Usama Bin Ladin safe house in Pakistan. The number is subscribed to by an individual named (REDACTED)(REDACTED) was interviewed by the FBI in June 2002. He could not explain why his number ended up in a safe house in Pakistan, but stated that he regularly provides services to a couple who are personal assistants to Prince Bandar."


Abu Zubaida(Zubaydah) is one I find even more interesting than Bayoumi or Bassnan.


He was captured on March 28, 2002.

On April 17, 2002 then President Bush declared... "We recently apprehended one of al-Qaida's top leaders, a man named Abu Zubaydah."

But the Torture Report released in late 2014 states... "CIA later concluded that Abu Zubaydah was not a member of al-Qaida."

CIA records in the Torture Report state that the interrogators wanted assurances that Zubaida would ... "remain in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life." and accordingly "senior officials" responded by stating that he "will never be placed in a situation where he has any significant contact with others and/or has the opportunity to be released.”

And to date, Zubaida has not only remained in isolation and incommunicado so far, but he has not even had his case brought up in the Guantanamo trials so far. Something that even alleged 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and his crew have been able to do.


So WHY all the secrecy surrounding Abu Zubaida?


According to Gerald Posner, as well as authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swann, when Zubaida was captured(March 28, 2002), he told his interrogators that Saudi Intelligence chief Prince Turki, Pakistan Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, and 3 Saudi Princes, Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki bin Abdullah, and Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, were all involved in the financing of 9/11, but did not know the exact details of the plot.

Then, as fate would have it, the 3 Saudi Princes' all died within a week of each other between July 22, 2002 and July 30, 2002.

Also, Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir was killed in a plane crash only 6 months later on February 20, 2003.

That's 4 of the 5, allegedly named by Zubaida, that died soon after his claims were made.

And don't forget that Saudi Intelligence chief, Prince Turki, the lone survivor from Zubaida's list of names, resigned from his post on September 1, 2001, ten days before 9/11.


Zubaida's claims, as reported by Posner, Summer and Swann went largely under the radar... like all things relating Saudi Arabia to 9/11... and has hardly been reported on at all by the U.S. MSM.


Now that the 28 Pages have been released, we see that Zubaida had even more phone numbers, that trace back to Saudi U.S. Ambassador, Prince Bandar. The same guy who, along with his wife, was giving money to Saudi agents, Bayoumi and Bassnan, who were in turn, giving money and support to some of the 9/11 hijackers.

Bandar appears to be right in the middle of the hornets nest in all this.

Also to remember, alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, has also echoed Zubaida's claims about the Saudi Royal family financially supporting the 9/11 hijackers, including former Intelligence chief Prince Turki.


This wouldn't be Bandar's first terrorist attack either. He also worked with then-CIA director William Casey in 1985 to set up a car bomb explosion in an attempt to kill suspected radical leader, Sheikh Muhammed Hussein Fadlallah in Lebanon. The attempt failed but ended up killing 80 people(mostly women and children) and injuring over 200.

Here's a thread I started a while back to give you an idea about the real Prince Bandar...

Link

When trying to understand WHY U.S. Officials wanted to make sure that Zubaida would "remain in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life." and that he "will never be placed in a situation where he has any significant contact with others and/or has the opportunity to be released.”, I believe with the release of the 28 Pages and the information contained, combined with the previous accounts of Zubaida given separately by Posner, and Summers and Swann, gives a pretty good indication as to the reason why.

Another reason to keep this information suppressed?... Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, one of the Princes' that Zubaida names as a 9/11 financier, who died soon after, is/was the son of the current King Salman.

 

Summery...


What I see overall here is overwhelming Saudi influence, support and connections to 9/11 in the semi-redacted 28 Pages.

There's 2 Saudi agents helping and supporting some of the 9/11 hijackers, while being paid and supported by Saudi government agencies as well as members of the Saudi Royal family, including Prince Bandar and his wife Haifa.

From older material, we have Abu Zubaida(who is relatively unknown by comparison to KSM or OBL) having the phone numbers and naming 3 Saudi Princes, plus a Suadi Royal, plus a Pakistani Air chief as being main financiers to the 9/11 plot.

Now we can see from the 28 Pages' release that Zubaida also had phone numbers linking to Prince Bandar at both his residency and a connection to the Washington Saudi Embassy. This information reinforces the information provided by Posner, Summers, and Swann about Zubaida having the phone numbers to the Saudi Princes' and others.

So it looks like Prince Bandar, Prince Turki, Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz, Prince Turki bin Abdullah, Prince Saud al-Kabir, and Pakistan Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, were all central to funding at least part of the 9/11 plot and financing some of the hijackers.

 

Something NOT to be forgotten in all of this is the fact that the U.S. government has done it's best to shield and cover up anything Saudi related to 9/11 including...


- The 28 Pages(now released... WITH redactions still)

- The 80,266 pages on FBI material from the Florida end of the 9/11 investigation. They withheld the entire thing from both the Congressional Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission, and later denied the investigative material even existed. The documents are currently under review by U.S. Judge Zloch for release.

- The CIA's Inspector General's report released in 2014, with the last section pertaining to Saudi Arabia's alleged role in 9/11 containing, like the Congressional Inquiry Report, another 29 BLANK pages.

- There was also the 47 Page report loaded with information and recommendations pertaining to Saudi Arabia and 9/11, that was presented by 9/11 Commission members to director Philip Zelikow who classified them, and they were kept from the public until just last year.

- Not too mention all the stuff withheld from the 9/11 Commission that almost had the Commission members considering legal action against some U.S. agencies for not being forthcoming and being deceptive during their investigation.

 

I am fully convinced that "official" Saudi Arabia had plenty to do with 9/11 and their role was covered up(or attempted to be covered up) by successive Administrations at the expense of the truth. And today's stupid world of the "War On Terror" and "Jihad" and everything going on today, is the end result of that collusion.
 

As for where we go now... or SHOULD go now... like Bob Graham said... "We have to have accountability from the CIA and the FBI for the several places they were asked to follow up on information that was developed prior to the release of the report"

 
I'll go step one further and say that all this, combined with Judge George Daniels' ruling that IRAN was behind 9/11 and has ordered them to pay $10.5 Trillion in restitution, I believe a whole new investigation into how 9/11 truly happened is more than warranted.

It's overdue.

 

Link to the released version of the 28 Pages...

28 Pages

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The attention was quickly stolen from those 28 pages and from Clinton's exposed lies by the unfortunately timed acts of terror. I agree with your assessment, and one can see why the pages were redacted when they were.

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2016 will be known as "The Year of the Scandal". Thanks again, Lemieux.

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On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 9:52 AM, Lemieux said:

Not strictly just Saudi Arabia mind you, but with the release of the 28 Pages, it looks more likely that the answer is yes, IMO.

It's true, from what I can tell so far, that there is no "smoking gun" evidence to show that "Official" Saudi Arabia was in on the 9/11 plot, but the overall information reveals quite a lot of connections to be sure.

I've found a few points of interest and plenty of confirmation of things I suspected before, so far. I still need to re-read it again though... probably a few times.


Here's Bob Graham's thoughts on the release of the partially redacted 28 Pages from the 9/11 Inquiry...


- "I think that this is, a solid case for the position that there is was significant Saudi involvement going up at least to the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar in the time leading up to 9/11."

Link

- "It's been exciting afternoon, but the trail is still substantial ahead of us," he said. "We have to have accountability from the CIA and the FBI for the several places they were asked to follow up on information that was developed prior to the release of the report"

- "Two-thirds of the hijackers had primary residences in Florida.'' Graham said. "There is still a lot more data to be mined as it relates to them."

Link

Graham is likely referring to the 80,266 pages of FBI investigation into the Florida end of 9/11 that was kept secret and hidden and never handed over to the Congressional Inquiry or the 9/11 Commission.

 

Now on the the 28 Pages...


Connections(I won't go too deep into these 2 guys as we've covered most of it already on this thread. The 28 Pages reinforce that information)...


Omar al Bayoumi and Osama Bassnan are Saudi nationals, very strongly suspected of being Saudi Intelligence agents, and were very instrumental in assisting at least 2 of the 9/11 hijackers in Khalid al Mihdhar and Newaf al Hazmi.

The evidence of Bayoumi and Bassnan being Saudi agents is very overwhelming and some of the money they received coincides to reinforce their assistance to the hijackers.

The 28 Pages lists numerous instances relating to both Bayoumi and Bassnan receiving funding from either the Saudi government or Saudi Royal family and both.

One such example... "The report states that during that trip a member of the Saudi Royal Family provided Bassnan with a significant amount of cash. FBI information indicates that Bassnan is an extremist and supporter of Usama Bin Laden, and has been connected to the Eritrean Islamic Jihad and the Blind Shaykh;"

The "Blind Shaykh" is a reference to Omar Abdel-Rahman aka "The Blind Sheikh" who is in jail for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

Bassnan's wife is the one receiving all the money from Prince Bandars' wife, Haifa.


28 Pages and Prince Bandar...


"The FBI has now confirmed that only Osama Bassnan's wife received directly money from Prince Bandar's wife, but that al-Bayoumi's wife attempted to deposit three of the checks from Prince Bandar's wife, which were payable to Bassnan's wife, into her own account."

"... the FBI located copies of 31 cashiers checks totaling $74,000, during the period February 22 1999 to May 30 2002."

"On at least one occasion, Bassnan received a check directly from Prince Bandar's account. According to the FBI, on May 14, 1998 Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000. Bassnan's wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar. She also received an additional check from Bandar's wife, which she cashed on January 6, 1998, for $10,000."

"On March 28, 2002, U.S. and coalition forces retrieved the telephone book of Abu Zubaida, whom the U.S. government has identified as a senior al-Qa'ida operational coordinator. According to an FBI document, "a review of toll records has linked several of the numbers found in Zubaida's with U.S. phone numbers". One of the numbers is unlisted and subscribed to by the ASPCOL Corporation in Aspen Colorado."

"According to the FBI's Denver Office, ASPCOL is the umbrella corporation that manages the affairs of the Colorado residence of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the United States."

"According to the FBI, the phone number of an individual named (REDACTED) of McLean, Virginia was found within the effects of Abu Zubaida. (REDACTED) is reportedly a bodyguard at the Saudi Embassy in Washington DC. The FBI now suspects that he may be a (REDACTED)... It also appears that (REDACTED) has been in contact with (REDACTED), which is located at (REDACTED), in McLean, Virginia. The FBI has identified this address as the address of Prince Bandar."

"The U.S. Government also located another Virginia number at an Usama Bin Ladin safe house in Pakistan. The number is subscribed to by an individual named (REDACTED)(REDACTED) was interviewed by the FBI in June 2002. He could not explain why his number ended up in a safe house in Pakistan, but stated that he regularly provides services to a couple who are personal assistants to Prince Bandar."


Abu Zubaida(Zubaydah) is one I find even more interesting than Bayoumi or Bassnan.


He was captured on March 28, 2002.

On April 17, 2002 then President Bush declared... "We recently apprehended one of al-Qaida's top leaders, a man named Abu Zubaydah."

But the Torture Report released in late 2014 states... "CIA later concluded that Abu Zubaydah was not a member of al-Qaida."

CIA records in the Torture Report state that the interrogators wanted assurances that Zubaida would ... "remain in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life." and accordingly "senior officials" responded by stating that he "will never be placed in a situation where he has any significant contact with others and/or has the opportunity to be released.”

And to date, Zubaida has not only remained in isolation and incommunicado so far, but he has not even had his case brought up in the Guantanamo trials so far. Something that even alleged 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and his crew have been able to do.


So WHY all the secrecy surrounding Abu Zubaida?


According to Gerald Posner, as well as authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swann, when Zubaida was captured(March 28, 2002), he told his interrogators that Saudi Intelligence chief Prince Turki, Pakistan Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, and 3 Saudi Princes, Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki bin Abdullah, and Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, were all involved in the financing of 9/11, but did not know the exact details of the plot.

Then, as fate would have it, the 3 Saudi Princes' all died within a week of each other between July 22, 2002 and July 30, 2002.

Also, Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir was killed in a plane crash only 6 months later on February 20, 2003.

That's 4 of the 5, allegedly named by Zubaida, that died soon after his claims were made.

And don't forget that Saudi Intelligence chief, Prince Turki, the lone survivor from Zubaida's list of names, resigned from his post on September 1, 2001, ten days before 9/11.


Zubaida's claims, as reported by Posner, Summer and Swann went largely under the radar... like all things relating Saudi Arabia to 9/11... and has hardly been reported on at all by the U.S. MSM.


Now that the 28 Pages have been released, we see that Zubaida had even more phone numbers, that trace back to Saudi U.S. Ambassador, Prince Bandar. The same guy who, along with his wife, was giving money to Saudi agents, Bayoumi and Bassnan, who were in turn, giving money and support to some of the 9/11 hijackers.

Bandar appears to be right in the middle of the hornets nest in all this.

Also to remember, alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, has also echoed Zubaida's claims about the Saudi Royal family financially supporting the 9/11 hijackers, including former Intelligence chief Prince Turki.


This wouldn't be Bandar's first terrorist attack either. He also worked with then-CIA director William Casey in 1985 to set up a car bomb explosion in an attempt to kill suspected radical leader, Sheikh Muhammed Hussein Fadlallah in Lebanon. The attempt failed but ended up killing 80 people(mostly women and children) and injuring over 200.

Here's a thread I started a while back to give you an idea about the real Prince Bandar...

Link

When trying to understand WHY U.S. Officials wanted to make sure that Zubaida would "remain in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life." and that he "will never be placed in a situation where he has any significant contact with others and/or has the opportunity to be released.”, I believe with the release of the 28 Pages and the information contained, combined with the previous accounts of Zubaida given separately by Posner, and Summers and Swann, gives a pretty good indication as to the reason why.

Another reason to keep this information suppressed?... Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, one of the Princes' that Zubaida names as a 9/11 financier, who died soon after, is/was the son of the current King Salman.

 

Summery...


What I see overall here is overwhelming Saudi influence, support and connections to 9/11 in the semi-redacted 28 Pages.

There's 2 Saudi agents helping and supporting some of the 9/11 hijackers, while being paid and supported by Saudi government agencies as well as members of the Saudi Royal family, including Prince Bandar and his wife Haifa.

From older material, we have Abu Zubaida(who is relatively unknown by comparison to KSM or OBL) having the phone numbers and naming 3 Saudi Princes, plus a Suadi Royal, plus a Pakistani Air chief as being main financiers to the 9/11 plot.

Now we can see from the 28 Pages' release that Zubaida also had phone numbers linking to Prince Bandar at both his residency and a connection to the Washington Saudi Embassy. This information reinforces the information provided by Posner, Summers, and Swann about Zubaida having the phone numbers to the Saudi Princes' and others.

So it looks like Prince Bandar, Prince Turki, Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz, Prince Turki bin Abdullah, Prince Saud al-Kabir, and Pakistan Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, were all central to funding at least part of the 9/11 plot and financing some of the hijackers.

 

Something NOT to be forgotten in all of this is the fact that the U.S. government has done it's best to shield and cover up anything Saudi related to 9/11 including...


- The 28 Pages(now released... WITH redactions still)

- The 80,266 pages on FBI material from the Florida end of the 9/11 investigation. They withheld the entire thing from both the Congressional Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission, and later denied the investigative material even existed. The documents are currently under review by U.S. Judge Zloch for release.

- The CIA's Inspector General's report released in 2014, with the last section pertaining to Saudi Arabia's alleged role in 9/11 containing, like the Congressional Inquiry Report, another 29 BLANK pages.

- There was also the 47 Page report loaded with information and recommendations pertaining to Saudi Arabia and 9/11, that was presented by 9/11 Commission members to director Philip Zelikow who classified them, and they were kept from the public until just last year.

- Not too mention all the stuff withheld from the 9/11 Commission that almost had the Commission members considering legal action against some U.S. agencies for not being forthcoming and being deceptive during their investigation.

 

I am fully convinced that "official" Saudi Arabia had plenty to do with 9/11 and their role was covered up(or attempted to be covered up) by successive Administrations at the expense of the truth. And today's stupid world of the "War On Terror" and "Jihad" and everything going on today, is the end result of that collusion.
 

As for where we go now... or SHOULD go now... like Bob Graham said... "We have to have accountability from the CIA and the FBI for the several places they were asked to follow up on information that was developed prior to the release of the report"

 
I'll go step one further and say that all this, combined with Judge George Daniels' ruling that IRAN was behind 9/11 and has ordered them to pay $10.5 Trillion in restitution, I believe a whole new investigation into how 9/11 truly happened is more than warranted.

It's overdue.

 

Link to the released version of the 28 Pages...

28 Pages

 

Apparently, the 29-page report shows no smoking gun linking the Saudi government to 9/11 and that no particular government was involved in financing the 9/11 hijackers. I have mentioned on a number of occasions that the real problem was those Saudi charities and terrorist financing from other Gulf States.

 

 

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Published on Nov 25, 2016

The day of the 911 WTC tragedy Trump spoke with channel 9 television in New York and made the obvious connections to controlled detonations in the buildings. Proving that he has been awake all along.

This video is well worth looking at.

 

 

This too..

 

"You may find it's the Saudis"

http://www.infowars.com/trump-vows-elect-me-and-youll-find-out-who-really-knocked-down-the-twin-towers/

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