+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 #1 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) A dear friend of mine has Alzhiemer's and anyone who has walked this journey knows the challenges. I am live in and it's 24/7. I am finding great comfort in Buddhism and running meditation. It is literally saving my sanity, my emotional health, and maybe I am gonna get a great body from all the running. My friend has no belief system at all, and she is struggling with fear of death at a level I have never seen in a person. I actually think she might benefit from some kind of belief and want to hear some ideas, I think in some cases God may not be the worst idea. Thanks everybody, psyche I want your voice of reason, X what are your thoughts, Frank do you think I should encourage Buddhism. 8 tee your wisdom is valued, Sharon your thoughts are appreciated. My friend needs peace. All opinions matter even yours Habitat. Lol Edited July 20, 2016 by Sherapy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 20, 2016 #2 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The philosophic teachings may very well be beneficial if she is fearing the end. Remember though, Buddha is not a God figure. If she is suffering from Alzheimer's exercise her mind as well as her soul, through meditation as well trivia, or crossword puzzles. Craft a treatment, I sense that you're the only one who 'knows best'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted July 20, 2016 #3 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Fear of death is a terrible thing. Do you know what it is about death she's scared of? For instance, a lot of people are not afraid of being dead but what they are afraid of is how they will die .... will it be a long, lingering painful death? Will they spend years being 'crazy' and unable to understand what is going on around them? Or perhaps they worry that the end of their life will be spent being 'cared for' by someone who is cruel to them. Perhaps there is something in their past that they feel really bad about or ashamed of and are worried that they will be held accountable for this in an afterlife. If you know more precisely what is bothering her, you will be better placed to help calm her fears. Last year I had an experience that brought me very close to death and left me with such a fear of dying that I would get panic attacks about it. I had/ have no religion to help me so what I tried was hypnotherapy. It worked like a miracle! The wonderful thing about it is that it requires no rational thought ..... it goes beyond reason and straight to the heart of the problem. I was 'cured' after just one session and the effects are long lasting. I don't even think about it anymore. I hope you find a solution soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted July 20, 2016 #4 Share Posted July 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Sherapy said: All opinions matter even yours Habitat. Lol Surely not ! It sounds like she is not ready to go, and will probably be around for a while yet. Many people near death are accepting, and even welcoming of it. Really sounds like a case for tranquilisers or similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #5 Share Posted July 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Likely Guy said: The philosophic teachings may very well be beneficial if she is fearing the end. Remember though, Buddha is not a God figure. If she is suffering from Alzheimer's exercise her mind as well as her soul, through meditation as well trivia, or crossword puzzles. Craft a treatment, I sense that you're the only one who 'knows best'. The doctor and the psychologist we see in tandem suggests the same meditate, exercise, and mental shaping ( safe place). Great advice and reminders thank you LG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted July 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Habitat said: Surely not ! It sounds like she is not ready to go, and will probably be around for a while yet. Many people near death are accepting, and even welcoming of it. Really sounds like a case for tranquilisers or similar. Indeed, this is a good point and she does have available medication to help her through. Thanks for your advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 20, 2016 #7 Share Posted July 20, 2016 9 hours ago, Sherapy said: A dear friend of mine has Alzhiemer's and anyone who has walked this journey knows the challenges. I am live in and it's 24/7. I am finding great comfort in Buddhism and running meditation. It is literally saving my sanity, my emotional health, and maybe I am gonna get a great body from all the running. My friend has no belief system at all, and she is struggling with fear of death at a level I have never seen in a person. I actually think she might benefit from some kind of belief and want to hear some ideas, I think in some cases God may not be the worst idea. Thanks everybody, psyche I want your voice of reason, X what are your thoughts, Frank do you think I should encourage Buddhism. 8 tee your wisdom is valued, Sharon your thoughts are appreciated. My friend needs peace. All opinions matter even yours Habitat. Lol My apologies for the road youre on. Ive been reading lately about using psychedelic drugs for mitigating psychological issues and one thing I keep coming across is peoples success in using them to ease end of life anxiety: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/02/19/30580/easing-end-of-life-anxiety-with-psychedelic-drugs/ Obviously Buddhism and the four noble truths can help if the patient is willing to indulge the concept but I would caution against coming off as preachy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 20, 2016 #8 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Quite frankly I would entertain elements from both Buddhism and pantheism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #9 Share Posted July 20, 2016 7 hours ago, ouija ouija said: Fear of death is a terrible thing. Do you know what it is about death she's scared of? For instance, a lot of people are not afraid of being dead but what they are afraid of is how they will die .... will it be a long, lingering painful death? Will they spend years being 'crazy' and unable to understand what is going on around them? Or perhaps they worry that the end of their life will be spent being 'cared for' by someone who is cruel to them. Perhaps there is something in their past that they feel really bad about or ashamed of and are worried that they will be held accountable for this in an afterlife. If you know more precisely what is bothering her, you will be better placed to help calm her fears. Last year I had an experience that brought me very close to death and left me with such a fear of dying that I would get panic attacks about it. I had/ have no religion to help me so what I tried was hypnotherapy. It worked like a miracle! The wonderful thing about it is that it requires no rational thought ..... it goes beyond reason and straight to the heart of the problem. I was 'cured' after just one session and the effects are long lasting. I don't even think about it anymore. I hope you find a solution soon. She fears going to a care facility or home, she fears not being able to stay, live out her days in her own home. Due to the Alzhiemer's her sun downing period is incredibly difficult. It took me a few strategies to find my way with her, I got expert help and now understand her and her triggers etc. Alzhiemers tend to get paranoid and fixate on things that are not real. So, she is still terrified Thank you for your post it is helpful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #10 Share Posted July 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: My apologies for the road youre on. Ive been reading lately about using psychedelic drugs for mitigating psychological issues and one thing I keep coming across is peoples success in using them to ease end of life anxiety: http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/2013/02/19/30580/easing-end-of-life-anxiety-with-psychedelic-drugs/ Obviously Buddhism and the four noble truths can help if the patient is willing to indulge the concept but I would caution against coming off as preachy. Of course it has to be kept simple and Buddhism is neutral In the sense it focuses on peace and mediation. In and of itself I wouldn't call it preachy. What aspects do you find preachy, I ask to be aware in case. Thanks for you input. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #11 Share Posted July 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Quite frankly I would entertain elements from both Buddhism and pantheism. Why? I'd love to hear your thoughts and suggestions NW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbly_Dooright Posted July 20, 2016 #12 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Sheri: A dear friend of mine has Alzhiemer's and anyone who has walked this journey knows the challenges. I am live in and it's 24/7. I am finding great comfort in Buddhism and running meditation. It is literally saving my sanity, my emotional health, and maybe I am gonna get a great body from all the running. My friend has no belief system at all, and she is struggling with fear of death at a level I have never seen in a person. I actually think she might benefit from some kind of belief and want to hear some ideas, I think in some cases God may not be the worst idea. Thanks everybody, psyche I want your voice of reason, X what are your thoughts, Frank do you think I should encourage Buddhism. 8 tee your wisdom is valued, Sharon your thoughts are appreciated. My friend needs peace. All opinions matter even yours Habitat. Lol Well, hello there my friend. Miss you here on these boards. Wow, you are a champion, a good heart, and a good friend. Your friend is someone I'm thinking about. I'm going to assume when you say she has no belief system at all, that she is an Atheist. I think it's part of the process, when someone is dying ( but I don't think this means her, and I really hope and do believe she is not ) being afraid of death. I remember certain behaviors my brother went through in the hospital before he passed away. One of them is denial. Then again, I am not going to assume your friend is dieing. I have only known one person with Alzhiemer's and it was a long time ago when she passed and a lot of it was occurring out of state. I always thought Alzhiemer's was not a death sentence. Well anyways, I often wonder in the lifespan of those and the type of beliefs, I always worry about those who become deathbed Atheists. This is how I see it as. If a person has always believed, they are lucky, because they probably lived a full life, even if most of it was under a certain 'guideline' but feel that they will go on after they pass. If an lifelong Atheist is about to pass, they at least lived their life as one and felt they lived it the way they see fit. If there was a lifelong Atheist who became any sort of a believer, then they probably have it two folds, they lived the life more than likely the way they see fit, and then feel, there is more, and probably feel comforted. It's the lifelong believer turned deathbed Atheist I would worry about. Here we have someone who felt they lived their life for someone or something else, and now feel there is nothing, and probably have the worst regret and fear of their lives. Your friend, I would think, would probably, if she is told about the many aspects of various beliefs, would probably find comfort in one or some and feel there is more later. Well, that is one thing I'm thinking about. ( in the end, sometimes I feel that constant conscious is scary and that there might be comfort in nothing............sometimes I feel that ) In another level of how I think and or believe, my belief is based on feelings, messages, and awareness on another level. Be it subconscious or such. I don't know if your friend would find comfort on this, but I always get a comfort that I sense there is more. On top of that, of various 'messeges' and observations of lots of things, I think she has nothing to fear. I think she will be very happy after. ( not to get her to do anything, oh gawd, I hope not!!! ) Let's just say, I think she will be alright, now and later, from my senses. ( if that helps ) She sounds like one hell of a lady, and that be it 'Karma' or such, she will get good things happening to her on many levels. I think, as you are getting your outlet and comfort in things like Bhuddism and exercise ( and when things get tough for me, humor such as Carol Burnett auto-biographies and various outtake reels of 'Scrubs', 'Once Upon a Time' and such ) I think your friend needs that, if she hasn't already have something like that. I think, it's really good to push our minds away from thoughts like that, so they don't overcome you. I have had that happen a couple of times out of my life, in which I gave myself physical depression and or anxiety for a week or so. Have you two discussed Bhuddism or other beliefs, that she might find solace in one or more? I think she needs to hold on to something now, so she can be comforted. Having you as a constant friend, I have strong feeling is a big plus! She is lucky to have you. If at least, your friendship is helping three folds. I hope I helped. She and you and your family are in my heart. Edited July 20, 2016 by Stubbly_Dooright to stop misdirection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted July 20, 2016 #13 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just now, Sherapy said: Of course it has to be kept simple and Buddhism is neutral In the sense it focuses on peace and mediation. In and of itself I wouldn't call it preachy. What aspects do you find preachy, I ask to be aware in case. Thanks for you input. Oh i dont find the belief system in and of itself preachy.In fact I have the wheel of dharma tattooed on my arm. I just mean preachy in terms of insisting that it will help her. IDK im just a big child myself and the more someone insists something is good for me the more I am going to resist and my first thought when reading your post was that I would hate to see any tension added to your relationship with her as a result of good intentions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 20, 2016 #14 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just now, Sherapy said: Why? I'd love to hear your thoughts and suggestions NW. Buddhism for bringing comfort in dealing with her current situation and pantheism for dealing with her fears of death. A pantheistic view on death suggests that only the ego and body die, but that the inherent life force continues on. I find that particular view on death to be quite comforting, honestly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #15 Share Posted July 20, 2016 10 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Oh i dont find the belief system in and of itself preachy.In fact I have the wheel of dharma tattooed on my arm. I just mean preachy in terms of insisting that it will help her. IDK im just a big child myself and the more someone insists something is good for me the more I am going to resist and my first thought when reading your post was that I would hate to see any tension added to your relationship with her as a result of good intentions. Ah yes, great point, and I agree. Indeed, I'd want it to be her choice whatever path she choose or didn't choose. And that is a great point trying to insist on something only creates tension. Wonderful points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #16 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Stubbly_Dooright said: Sheri: A dear friend of mine has Alzhiemer's and anyone who has walked this journey knows the challenges. I am live in and it's 24/7. I am finding great comfort in Buddhism and running meditation. It is literally saving my sanity, my emotional health, and maybe I am gonna get a great body from all the running. My friend has no belief system at all, and she is struggling with fear of death at a level I have never seen in a person. I actually think she might benefit from some kind of belief and want to hear some ideas, I think in some cases God may not be the worst idea. Thanks everybody, psyche I want your voice of reason, X what are your thoughts, Frank do you think I should encourage Buddhism. 8 tee your wisdom is valued, Sharon your thoughts are appreciated. My friend needs peace. All opinions matter even yours Habitat. Lol Well, hello there my friend. Miss you here on these boards. Wow, you are a champion, a good heart, and a good friend. Your friend is someone I'm thinking about. I'm going to assume when you say she has no belief system at all, that she is an Atheist. I think it's part of the process, when someone is dying ( but I don't think this means her, and I really hope and do believe she is not ) being afraid of death. I remember certain behaviors my brother went through in the hospital before he passed away. One of them is denial. Then again, I am not going to assume your friend is dieing. I have only known one person with Alzhiemer's and it was a long time ago when she passed and a lot of it was occurring out of state. I always thought Alzhiemer's was not a death sentence. Well anyways, I often wonder in the lifespan of those and the type of beliefs, I always worry about those who become deathbed Atheists. This is how I see it as. If a person has always believed, they are lucky, because they probably lived a full life, even if most of it was under a certain 'guideline' but feel that they will go on after they pass. If an lifelong Atheist is about to pass, they at least lived their life as one and felt they lived it the way they see fit. If there was a lifelong Atheist who became any sort of a believer, then they probably have it two folds, they lived the life more than likely the way they see fit, and then feel, there is more, and probably feel comforted. It's the lifelong believer turned deathbed Atheist I would worry about. Here we have someone who felt they lived their life for someone or something else, and now feel there is nothing, and probably have the worst regret and fear of their lives. Your friend, I would think, would probably, if she is told about the many aspects of various beliefs, would probably find comfort in one or some and feel there is more later. Well, that is one thing I'm thinking about. ( in the end, sometimes I feel that constant conscious is scary and that there might be comfort in nothing............sometimes I feel that ) In another level of how I think and or believe, my belief is based on feelings, messages, and awareness on another level. Be it subconscious or such. I don't know if your friend would find comfort on this, but I always get a comfort that I sense there is more. On top of that, of various 'messeges' and observations of lots of things, I think she has nothing to fear. I think she will be very happy after. ( not to get her to do anything, oh gawd, I hope not!!! ) Let's just say, I think she will be alright, now and later, from my senses. ( if that helps ) She sounds like one hell of a lady, and that be it 'Karma' or such, she will get good things happening to her on many levels. I think, as you are getting your outlet and comfort in things like Bhuddism and exercise ( and when things get tough for me, humor such as Carol Burnett auto-biographies and various outtake reels of 'Scrubs', 'Once Upon a Time' and such ) I think your friend needs that, if she hasn't already have something like that. I think, it's really good to push our minds away from thoughts like that, so they don't overcome you. I have had that happen a couple of times out of my life, in which I gave myself physical depression and or anxiety for a week or so. Have you two discussed Bhuddism or other beliefs, that she might find solace in one or more? I think she needs to hold on to something now, so she can be comforted. Having you as a constant friend, I have strong feeling is a big plus! She is lucky to have you. If at least, your friendship is helping three folds. I hope I helped. She and you and your family are in my heart. Great post Sharon, she has limited interests too, which has been difficult to distract her, but I have found ways. She doesn't watch television and she loves to read but can't as much anymore. I am encouraging audio, but she struggles remembering what she hears. She does better seeing the text. She loves people so I try and keep her social calendar full. I agree whole heartedly on humor but she doesn't find much funny, gosh I try to make her laugh and some days I do. Humor in hubby form is a god send for me. And, for me, Buddhism is turning out to be quite helpful and so is running. Thank you for your kind words. Edited July 20, 2016 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #17 Share Posted July 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Buddhism for bringing comfort in dealing with her current situation and pantheism for dealing with her fears of death. A pantheistic view on death suggests that only the ego and body die, but that the inherent life force continues on. I find that particular view on death to be quite comforting, honestly. Hmmm, that is a great way to look at things. I love it. I'll read up on Pantheism and simplify it for her, see what she thinks. I love the point on how Buddhism does help deal with the now, the reality as it is. Great post NW. I sure miss ya kid. I miss all my UM friends. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted July 20, 2016 #18 Share Posted July 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Great post Sharon, she has limited interests too, which has been difficult to distract her, but I have found ways. She doesn't watch television and she loves to read but can't as much anymore. I am encouraging audio, but she struggles remembering what she hears. She does better seeing the text. She loves people so I try and keep her social calendar full. For me, Buddhism is turning out to be helpful. Thank you for your kind words. You mentioned that you go jogging but I hope you are able to have more 'time off' than that for yourself. Don't lose sight of your own needs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #19 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: You mentioned that you go jogging but I hope you are able to have more 'time off' than that for yourself. Don't lose sight of your own needs. Aw, yes, great point I do self care or put on my oxygen mask first, if I didn't I could not be here for her. The situation ( experience) itself made it clear that I must put my well being first. I have networked and get a lot of coverage for time off. Thanks for reminding me I need to be reminded often. Edited July 20, 2016 by Sherapy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eight bits Posted July 20, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Hi, Sheri A difficult problem to be sure. She was a psychologist. Is there anything about what kind of psychology she favored that might be useful here? Many "schools" have end-of-life ideas. Jung and Marie-Louise von Franz had many ideas (for example, that there was a distinctive quality to dream imagery and content, consoling content). Perhaps the psychologist she's seeing has already addressed the possibility, but even so, it might be something to talk over. Difficulty and all, I still envy you for the experience. Hang in there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #21 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just now, eight bits said: Hi, Sheri A difficult problem to be sure. She was a psychologist. Is there anything about what kind of psychology she favored that might be useful here? Many "schools" have end-of-life ideas. Jung and Marie-Louise von Franz had many ideas (for example, that there was a distinctive quality to dream imagery and content, consoling content). Perhaps the psychologist she's seeing has already addressed the possibility, but even so, it might be something to talk over. Difficulty and all, I still envy you for the experience. Hang in there. Yes, her Psychologist has pooled some ideas, at this point we are seeing what sticks. Thank you for the optimism in between the challenges and difficulties it is one hell of a ride for me In a great way. I do say I am getting an oppourtunity to live In the Zen as they say, and have done some major healing myself rather quickly. The Psychologist we have is awesome and you know me the learning part is a blast. Thanks Paul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbly_Dooright Posted July 20, 2016 #22 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Sheri: Great post Sharon, she has limited interests too, which has been difficult to distract her, but I have found ways. She doesn't watch television and she loves to read but can't as much anymore. I am encouraging audio, but she struggles remembering what she hears. She does better seeing the text. She loves people so I try and keep her social calendar full. I agree whole heartedly on humor but she doesn't find much funny, gosh I try to make her laugh and some days I do. Humor in hubby form is a god send for me. And, for me, Buddhism is turning out to be quite helpful and so is running. Thank you for your kind words. Could there maybe be some budding interests that she has, that she might feel aren't worth the time or trouble? There might be something there. Although, I do understand where she is coming from. Maybe even a passing thought or inclination to find out about something just recently occurring in her thoughts. As for her sight and reading, boy do I know that part. Is she getting or have cataracts? If so, operational. My mom has had them in both eyes, and my father in law in one. Both were operated on. If it's because of not seeing the close up print, I so understand that. Well, I so understand the near sightedness too. Grew up needing glasses starting at the age of eleven, or nine, and wore contacts since twelve. Now, I need reading glasses, when my contacts are in. I find it a help of reading, when I just have my regular glasses, and flipping them up to read. Also, there are large print books at bookstores, ( though not every book has been published in large print, which I have no friggin clue as to why ) Also, when doing audio books, make sure it's the unabridge, yes it's more money, but it's the whole book, as to picking out the big beefy parts of the hard or soft cover book with an abridged one. I also understand, everyone has their own type of sense of humor, or none, that's ok. I wonder what brings a smile to her lips. Finding comfort in a painting, like I do with various naturalist paintings and painters. Does she find peace listening to a type of music? There are various artists, and some form of music genre's I love to get comfort from. New Age is something I really love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted July 20, 2016 #23 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I've just thought of Rudolph Steiner's teachings, they are very gentle with regard to caring for the sick and dying. Try 'Caring for the sick at home' by Tineke van Bentheim, Saskia Bos, Ermengarde de la Houssaye and Wil Vissier. It's published by Floris books. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #24 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Stubbly_Dooright said: Sheri: Great post Sharon, she has limited interests too, which has been difficult to distract her, but I have found ways. She doesn't watch television and she loves to read but can't as much anymore. I am encouraging audio, but she struggles remembering what she hears. She does better seeing the text. She loves people so I try and keep her social calendar full. I agree whole heartedly on humor but she doesn't find much funny, gosh I try to make her laugh and some days I do. Humor in hubby form is a god send for me. And, for me, Buddhism is turning out to be quite helpful and so is running. Thank you for your kind words. Could there maybe be some budding interests that she has, that she might feel aren't worth the time or trouble? There might be something there. Although, I do understand where she is coming from. Maybe even a passing thought or inclination to find out about something just recently occurring in her thoughts. As for her sight and reading, boy do I know that part. Is she getting or have cataracts? If so, operational. My mom has had them in both eyes, and my father in law in one. Both were operated on. If it's because of not seeing the close up print, I so understand that. Well, I so understand the near sightedness too. Grew up needing glasses starting at the age of eleven, or nine, and wore contacts since twelve. Now, I need reading glasses, when my contacts are in. I find it a help of reading, when I just have my regular glasses, and flipping them up to read. Also, there are large print books at bookstores, ( though not every book has been published in large print, which I have no friggin clue as to why ) Also, when doing audio books, make sure it's the unabridge, yes it's more money, but it's the whole book, as to picking out the big beefy parts of the hard or soft cover book with an abridged one. I also understand, everyone has their own type of sense of humor, or none, that's ok. I wonder what brings a smile to her lips. Finding comfort in a painting, like I do with various naturalist paintings and painters. Does she find peace listening to a type of music? There are various artists, and some form of music genre's I love to get comfort from. New Age is something I really love. After reading your post I asked her what she liked to do and we are going to try watching cooking shows. Each day is different with Alzheimer's. They don't remember things, but I think I can add asking everyday to my list. Hmmm, I will pay attention for what makes her smile. That is a great idea. Keep the ideas coming everyone they are helping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted July 20, 2016 Author #25 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ouija ouija said: I've just thought of Rudolph Steiner's teachings, they are very gentle with regard to caring for the sick and dying. Try 'Caring for the sick at home' by Tineke van Bentheim, Saskia Bos, Ermengarde de la Houssaye and Wil Vissier. It's published by Floris books. Just ordered it. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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