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Does Area 51 caller in 97 and 98 sound alike?


BSbunker

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On 1997, somebody called Art Bell’s show and claimed he worked in Area 51 :  
https://youtu.be/ee3bld4lTG0

He returned in 1998 again to declare its hoax:  
https://youtu.be/MhLh8KJCPNI

I'm now asking, do they sound alike? I have seen both side of views and can't really say.. Does anyone have like a voice analyzing software or something to find this out?

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Is this about a lunatic phoning up a radio station?  

 

 

 

Just listened to it. yep, crank callers.  The radio stations get a lot of these.

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3 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

Is this about a lunatic phoning up a radio station?  

 

 

 

Just listened to it. yep, crank callers.  The radio stations get a lot of these.

How about that satellite outage. Was it just coincidence?

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1 hour ago, BSbunker said:

How about that satellite outage. Was it just coincidence?

what satellite outrage? you can not mean when his phone cuts out? 

the only thing this guy says which makes any sense is him being let go because of a medical discharge = very likely to do with the head.

 

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1 minute ago, freetoroam said:

what satellite outrage? you can not mean when his phone cuts out? 

the only thing this guy says which makes any sense is him being let go because of a medical discharge = very likely to do with the head.

 

That satellite outage that got Art kicked off air on original one (97)

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11 hours ago, freetoroam said:

Is this about a lunatic phoning up a radio station?  

I guess so...

Well, in all honesty, he was in good company....

Cheers,
Badeskov

 

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A couple of passing comments...

While there is audio analysis software available out there, unless you know the topic extraordinarily well (I don't), any amateur attempt to make a determination on this will be worse than useless.   In many ways, analyses of soundwaves are much, much more difficult than analyses of imagery.  I'm a (self-professed ;)) expert on the latter, definitely NOT the former.  The 'timbre' of a sound/voice is affected by the environment, whether the subject has a cold or raspy throat, the microphone design and positioning, all of the electronics in the pre- and post-processing, and in the case of phones, they are drastically affected by the communications systems and the often very high compression ratios, not to mention filtering of lower / higher frequencies, loss of harmonics, and so on...

But perhaps more importantly.. let's say anyone did verify it one way or the other.. what would that mean?  It certainly in no way verifies any of the claims - only real supporting evidence/documentation could do that.  Any idiot can make any claim on the Interwebz, as we all know..  And conversely, if it was revealed it was a different voice, does that mean the earlier claims are necessarily false?  Either or both of the people may be trolls, fame-seekers, or just screwed in the head.  They could also be telling the truth, in whole or in part, but ONLY proper evidence will back that up..  Analysing the voices will get us nowhere, imo, even if you got a proven forensic specialist to give a full report.

Sorry, but there you go.  Sometimes, you just have to let go, even if it is your most favorite conspiracy theory.. :) 

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28 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

A couple of passing comments...

While there is audio analysis software available out there, unless you know the topic extraordinarily well (I don't), any amateur attempt to make a determination on this will be worse than useless.   In many ways, analyses of soundwaves are much, much more difficult than analyses of imagery.  I'm a (self-professed ;)) expert on the latter, definitely NOT the former.  The 'timbre' of a sound/voice is affected by the environment, whether the subject has a cold or raspy throat, the microphone design and positioning, all of the electronics in the pre- and post-processing, and in the case of phones, they are drastically affected by the communications systems and the often very high compression ratios, not to mention filtering of lower / higher frequencies, loss of harmonics, and so on...

But perhaps more importantly.. let's say anyone did verify it one way or the other.. what would that mean?  It certainly in no way verifies any of the claims - only real supporting evidence/documentation could do that.  Any idiot can make any claim on the Interwebz, as we all know..  And conversely, if it was revealed it was a different voice, does that mean the earlier claims are necessarily false?  Either or both of the people may be trolls, fame-seekers, or just screwed in the head.  They could also be telling the truth, in whole or in part, but ONLY proper evidence will back that up..  Analysing the voices will get us nowhere, imo, even if you got a proven forensic specialist to give a full report.

Sorry, but there you go.  Sometimes, you just have to let go, even if it is your most favorite conspiracy theory.. :) 

Thanks for such long answer, but what do you think of this conspiracy at itself? That paranoid Area 51 worker calls into radio show, show gets kicked off air and caller sounded genuinely scared?

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14 hours ago, BSbunker said:

Thanks for such long answer, but what do you think of this conspiracy at itself? That paranoid Area 51 worker calls into radio show, show gets kicked off air and caller sounded genuinely scared?

Let's just say it made for good radio... 

I have considered all the possibilities I can think of, including:

1. They went off air because of a coincidental genuine breakdown.  While this is fairly unlikely, if and when they had their first breakdown, no matter what show was on Art Bell, it would have been immediately labelled a conspiracy...

2. The ebil gubmint was listening and shut down the station.  This option contains a number of possible scenarios, eg that they knew it was bulldung, but by shutting them down it helped to promote their favorite Area 51 cover story (maybe they even supplied the guy in the first place..) ..or.. that it was 100% true and they wanted to cover it up as much as possible...  Problem is, technically shutting down a radio transmission is very difficult to do (unless you are a techie at the station), and they could have simply called the show's manager and done it much easier...

3. That Art himself (or a minion) shut down the broadcast and pretended that it was the gubmint.

4. That station management, with or without Art's knowledge, took them off air.  Again, this option contains various possibilities similar to above.

5. Aliens took them off air..

:D

Frankly, I don't see any way that we can determine which of those applies.  I have my own opinions on which might be the most likely, but I think that speculating is going to get us nowhere.  All in all, I think this is a textbook example of why you cannot *ever* trust anecdotes.  Evidence rules!

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2 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

 

Frankly, I don't see any way that we can determine which of those applies.  I have my own opinions on which might be the most likely, but I think that speculating is going to get us nowhere.  All in all, I think this is a textbook example of why you cannot *ever* trust anecdotes.  Evidence rules!

I can only echo this - evidence rules.....

Cheers,
Badeskov

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How about when 'genuine fear' comes to play? I know there is thing called acting, but has any actor (in movies, theater, tv-show) pulled off that kind of convincing act?

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1 hour ago, badeskov said:

I can only echo this - evidence rules.....

 

It does for people who aren't witnesses to happenings that left no trace. Otherwise not.

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15 hours ago, BSbunker said:

 I know there is thing called acting, but has any actor (in movies, theater, tv-show) pulled off that kind of convincing act?

Yes.

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