UM-Bot Posted July 21, 2016 #1 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Increasingly sophisticated data storage systems are being built to meet the demands of modern computing. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/296926/scientists-achieve-atom-sized-data-storage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted July 21, 2016 #2 Share Posted July 21, 2016 we won't see this. you would only need one hard drive for your whole life. where's the money in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted July 21, 2016 #3 Share Posted July 21, 2016 50 minutes ago, danielost said: we won't see this. you would only need one hard drive for your whole life. where's the money in that. Capacity requirements increase over time - only 20 years ago hard disk capacities were hundreds of times less than they are today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted July 21, 2016 #4 Share Posted July 21, 2016 this tech will be used by governments and universities the internet computers.. but, you and I will; never see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted July 21, 2016 #5 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Why not ? If it works and it becomes affordable enough there's no reason it wouldn't be made available to consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted July 21, 2016 #6 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) as I said there is no money in it if you only need one drive your whole life. we are close to that now. if you didn't have this site how many drives would you need Edited July 21, 2016 by danielost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clare256 Posted July 21, 2016 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Yeah, I remember when they came out with a 250mb hard drive. We were like, wow, we'll never use all that 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 21, 2016 #8 Share Posted July 21, 2016 37 minutes ago, danielost said: this tech will be used by governments and universities the internet computers.. but, you and I will; never see it. This tech isnt limited to drives only because it will work on ROMs/RAMs/CPUs and other applications as well. The common data carrier technology will reach its end in the near future, so new technologies are required and developed because its a future market and a very fruitfully market as well. Maybe the first devices will be very expensive so the market might be limited to governments and universities first but computer history has shown, and validated by Moore's law, that such developments will find its ways into the common markets, means for private and office use. Just remember the days of the floppy disk, its prices and its limited data storage capabilies and its lame data access rates. All that has been changed dramatically with the launch of CD-ROM technology, which was extremely expensive in the beginning but mass production decreased the prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted July 21, 2016 #9 Share Posted July 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, danielost said: as I said there is no money in it if you only need one drive your whole life. we are close to that now. if you didn't have this site how many drives would you need Daniel, existing technologies and programs are literally designed based on the assumption that by the time they are ready to begin production, the computer technology needed for their creation will be commercially available. Customers aren't even passively waiting for technological developments anymore; they are actively planning around developments that haven't happened yet. You might only see this a "a single hard drive", but that is a very limited view of this technology. As we speak, the barriers between RAM, ROM, and storage are blurring. This technology not only would not exist as an actual hard drive, like the ones you are thinking of, it literally couldn't exist as one. The read/write technology used by hard drives would simply be incapable of retrieving that sort of information, and even if it could, there would simply be way too much information for it to retrieve. At a minimum, these would have to be logical drives, and even at that, it wouldn't begin to cover just how they organize data. Every single graphics and gaming company on the planet would sell their metaphorical first-born to get in on this; just imagine the sorts of things you could create if you didn't have the data processing bottlenecks that exist today! This isn't just a bigger closet. This is an entirely new way of making clothes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted July 21, 2016 #10 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, danielost said: 31 minutes ago, aquatus1 said: Daniel, existing technologies and programs are literally designed based on the assumption that by the time they are ready to begin production, the computer technology needed for their creation will be commercially available. Customers aren't even passively waiting for technological developments anymore; they are actively planning around developments that haven't happened yet. You might only see this a "a single hard drive", but that is a very limited view of this technology. As we speak, the barriers between RAM, ROM, and storage are blurring. This technology not only would not exist as an actual hard drive, like the ones you are thinking of, it literally couldn't exist as one. The read/write technology used by hard drives would simply be incapable of retrieving that sort of information, and even if it could, there would simply be way too much information for it to retrieve. At a minimum, these would have to be logical drives, and even at that, it wouldn't begin to cover just how they organize data. Every single graphics and gaming company on the planet would sell their metaphorical first-born to get in on this; just imagine the sorts of things you could create if you didn't have the data processing bottlenecks that exist today! This isn't just a bigger closet. This is an entirely new way of making clothes. that was said about current tech. I have a hard time filling up my current hard drive and it is old tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted July 21, 2016 #11 Share Posted July 21, 2016 It's not about you, Daniel. I find myself saying that to you a distressing number of times. If you aren't a person that uses computers for more than personal convenience and entertainment, you won't need this tech. Computers have been capable of meeting your needs for decades now. People that do actually push computers to do processing and analysis, i.e. people in accounting, modeling, graphics, research, etc, will. Casuals aren't the customers for technology. Power users are. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted July 21, 2016 #12 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, danielost said: this tech will be used by governments and universities the internet computers.. but, you and I will; never see it. That's what they said about computers full stop originally. Hell, even Alexander Graham Bell apparently said that each town would probably only have "one or two telephones". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted July 21, 2016 #13 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, danielost said: that was said about current tech. I have a hard time filling up my current hard drive and it is old tech. Well don't buy one then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted July 21, 2016 #14 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, danielost said: as I said there is no money in it if you only need one drive your whole life. we are close to that now. if you didn't have this site how many drives would you need Dude, when I got my first 1 GB harddrive, I really thought I would never fill it up. Now, a single blu-ray movie is 4x the entire capacity of that drive. As digital storage becomes exponentially bigger and cheaper, the quality of the data stored will increase greatly as well. It's all relative, yo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphorbia Posted July 21, 2016 #15 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Saru said: Capacity requirements increase over time - only 20 years ago hard disk capacities were hundreds of times less than they are today. Yes, my first hard drive back in 1995 was only 850mb. Now I've got a couple of 4tb external drives lying around which are more than 4000 times the capacity of my first drive. If I saved everything, I could easily fill these drives. Who knows what we'll be saving in the future..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted July 21, 2016 #16 Share Posted July 21, 2016 yes, I thought about better programs or ai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastieRunner Posted July 21, 2016 #17 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 hours ago, clare256 said: Yeah, I remember when they came out with a 250mb hard drive. We were like, wow, we'll never use all that Man, I almost have my 1TB full on my Xbox already ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 21, 2016 #18 Share Posted July 21, 2016 When I first started building computers 80GB was the standard drive. Now I build with 500GB SSDs and use the TB drives to store stuff only. I carry a 64GB USB 3.0 thumbdrive on my key ring that is the size of my thumbnail and it isn't even a big drive. I love technology! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperdyer Posted July 21, 2016 #19 Share Posted July 21, 2016 4 hours ago, danielost said: that was said about current tech. I have a hard time filling up my current hard drive and it is old tech. How big is your hard drive?. I just got a 4TB one because I filled my 2TB one. Does take long when you store video files instead of burning to a DVD or BD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 21, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, paperdyer said: How big is your hard drive?. I just got a 4TB one because I filled my 2TB one. Does take long when you store video files instead of burning to a DVD or BD. Exactly and now we are seeing the birth of Virtual Reality entertainment which promises massive files that will eat up 4TB drives I am betting. Seems that whatever storage technology we develop we find a tech the fill it up. Edited July 21, 2016 by Merc14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltedmusician Posted July 21, 2016 #21 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Like how no matter how much ram we get with a new computer it is half used up by the latest and greatest OS so that our computers still don't start up or function any faster with new programs than the old ones did with old programs. My old 486DX2 from 1993 with Castle Wolfenstein is no faster or slower than a new computer with Call of Duty Space wars deluxe gone wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted July 21, 2016 #22 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Kiltedmusician said: Like how no matter how much ram we get with a new computer it is half used up by the latest and greatest OS so that our computers still don't start up or function any faster with new programs than the old ones did with old programs. My old 486DX2 from 1993 with Castle Wolfenstein is no faster or slower than a new computer with Call of Duty Space wars deluxe gone wild. Clone your drivee to an SSd and you'll see much faster boot times. All the memory in the world won't help a slow Hard Drive write to memory an faster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted July 22, 2016 #23 Share Posted July 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Merc14 said: Clone your drivee to an SSd and you'll see much faster boot times. All the memory in the world won't help a slow Hard Drive write to memory an faster True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeycat Posted July 22, 2016 #24 Share Posted July 22, 2016 22 hours ago, danielost said: we won't see this. you would only need one hard drive for your whole life. where's the money in that. I hope you backup your one and only hard drive, because as we know hard drives always last a lifetime and never fail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeycat Posted July 22, 2016 #25 Share Posted July 22, 2016 20 hours ago, clare256 said: Yeah, I remember when they came out with a 250mb hard drive. We were like, wow, we'll never use all that I remember using 60Mb (megabytes) hard drives in the 80's. They cost over £1000 ($1400) as well. That's equivalent to roughly £2500 ($3500) in today's money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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