Ozfactor Posted August 5, 2016 #1 Share Posted August 5, 2016 http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/jonbenets-brother-burke-ramsey-to-break-silence/news-story/2e16bcb35622fd0a6a4ee00a9dba7642 THE brother of JonBenet Ramsey will publicly discuss his younger sister’s death for the first time in an interview to be broadcast on Dr. Phil next month. Burke Ramsey was 9 years old when his 6-year-old sister was found dead in the basement of the family’s Boulder, Colorado, home on December 26, 1996. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted August 20, 2016 #2 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I just came across an announcement that there is going to be a new doc series on Jon Benet's murder in September. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trailer-cbs-jonbenet-ramsey-miniseries/ It seems like quite a coincidence to me that Burke was suddenly motivated to appear on the Dr. Phil show to discuss the case just before this new series airs. No, I won't even approach this as being any time of a coincidence but rather a nauseating reality that Burke and probably his father have decided they are now safe enough of being charged with the crime that they can manufacture little tantalizing tidbits that they are being paid for by CBS to enhance the number of viewers. Disgusting people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camarel Posted August 20, 2016 #3 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Think they are just trying to get ahead of all the interest the 20th Anniversary will drum up. Whether you believe their story or not it is certainly the smart move to get their intruder story told in the media as much as possible during this time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen_jacobs Posted August 22, 2016 #4 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Curious to see the "interview" and how it goes. Edited August 22, 2016 by Maureen_jacobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codenwarra Posted August 22, 2016 #5 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Here in Australia we heard of this case and I recall reading of it in some detail yonks ago. It might be interesting to read what he has to say, though I doubt it will shed much light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozfactor Posted August 31, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted August 31, 2016 update http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/burke-ramsey-brother-of-jonbenet-speaks-out-for-the-first-time-on-dr-phil/news-story/e47656f9667ab9bec8e2871d93723819 Now 29, Burke has revealed in detail what happened on the night his family’s world turned upside down in a snippet from Dr Phil’s interview, which will air next week. “I remember my mum searching my room that night saying, ‘Where’s my baby? Where’s my baby?’” he tells the daytime talk show host in the three-part season premiere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted September 1, 2016 #7 Share Posted September 1, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 11:44 AM, Vincennes said: I just came across an announcement that there is going to be a new doc series on Jon Benet's murder in September. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trailer-cbs-jonbenet-ramsey-miniseries/ It seems like quite a coincidence to me that Burke was suddenly motivated to appear on the Dr. Phil show to discuss the case just before this new series airs. No, I won't even approach this as being any time of a coincidence but rather a nauseating reality that Burke and probably his father have decided they are now safe enough of being charged with the crime that they can manufacture little tantalizing tidbits that they are being paid for by CBS to enhance the number of viewers. Disgusting people. Dr. Phil as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 2, 2016 #8 Share Posted September 2, 2016 16 hours ago, Myles said: Dr. Phil as well. I don't think if someone was guilty of a crime they would come out later if any thing they`d hide it to the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted September 2, 2016 #9 Share Posted September 2, 2016 This young man was only 9 years old at the time...how much could he really know? I'm thinking nothing of great significance will come of this interview. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camarel Posted September 2, 2016 #10 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Well there's plenty of people that think he did it, and that his parents covered it up. Not saying i myself believe that theory just that plenty of people believe he knows a lot and they are wanting to see how he'll act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted September 2, 2016 #11 Share Posted September 2, 2016 This entire case is just so sad. The murder, the family, and everything that surrounds it... just makes me sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted September 2, 2016 #12 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Lilly said: This young man was only 9 years old at the time...how much could he really know? I'm thinking nothing of great significance will come of this interview. Well John and Patsy did have the little problem that they told the police the brother was asleep that morning and then they picked up his voice asking the parents what was going on during the 911 call. He was not only awake and talking, they were talking to him, telling him to go away ! I'm so upset by the fact this documentary seems to be coordinated with the Ramsey's, I think it's going to be hard for me to watch it. I also notice that the detective they seem to be using as the police authority is Kholar (sp?) and for years he had little, if any, connection with the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 3, 2016 #13 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Well to me the Ramsey family was exonerated so to bring it all back is crasy, if John or Burke were the guilty parties. Edited September 3, 2016 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted September 4, 2016 #14 Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm looking forward to the interview because I think it'll surely be informative, enlightening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynGuy Posted September 4, 2016 #15 Share Posted September 4, 2016 52 minutes ago, regi said: I'm looking forward to the interview because I think it'll surely be informative, enlightening. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted September 5, 2016 #16 Share Posted September 5, 2016 On 9/2/2016 at 10:00 PM, docyabut2 said: Well to me the Ramsey family was exonerated so to bring it all back is crasy, if John or Burke were the guilty parties. Sorry but this really isn't correct. You see what actually happened legally is John and Patsy were both indicted by a Grand Jury that was invested with making the determination if there was evidence of their guilt. After that mandate, Alex Hunter the DA decided that he would refuse to prosecute them. There were and still are questions if he had the legal authority to make that determination. After dead head Hunter retired his replacement DA decided she had the authority to make a statement become a one man band declaring them not guilty. This statement has been declared legally unethical by most legal authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 5, 2016 #17 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Watched Barbra Walters special last night, tonight going to watch the A&E special. A point that stands out to me is, although there was not much crime in Boulder at the time, but there was a case of a women that found a man in her little daughter`s bedroom and ran off, so it could still be someone from there that killed JB. Edited September 5, 2016 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 5, 2016 #18 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Yes docyabut2. Was just going to mention that A&E is airing a special about the Jon Benet case tonight at 9 PM. I will be watching. It will also include the interview with Burke. http://www.bustle.com/articles/182113-will-the-killing-of-jonbenet-return-for-more-episodes-the-ae-documentary-isnt-the-end-of One of the suspects in her case was arrested on June 1, 2016 on charges of child pornography. http://www.bustle.com/articles/182113-will-the-killing-of-jonbenet-return-for-more-episodes-the-ae-documentary-isnt-the-end-of Here's a pretty long PDF about the case. Pages 6-11 are good for describing the crime scene. Page 69 lists the Appendages that follow where a lot about the case is summarized. https://www.apus.edu/content/dam/online-library/student-papers/Yerkey-2006.pdf Edited September 5, 2016 by susieice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 5, 2016 #19 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, susieice said: Yes docyabut2. Was just going to mention that A&E is airing a special about the Jon Benet case tonight at 9 PM. I will be watching. It will also include the interview with Burke. http://www.bustle.com/articles/182113-will-the-killing-of-jonbenet-return-for-more-episodes-the-ae-documentary-isnt-the-end-of One of the suspects in her case was arrested on June 1, 2016 on charges of child pornography. http://www.bustle.com/articles/182113-will-the-killing-of-jonbenet-return-for-more-episodes-the-ae-documentary-isnt-the-end-of Here's a pretty long PDF about the case. Pages 6-11 are good for describing the crime scene. Page 69 lists the Appendages that follow where a lot about the case is summarized. https://www.apus.edu/content/dam/online-library/student-papers/Yerkey-2006.pdf Susieice I don `n t know why they are bringing up this case again on the media, perhaps only for the money and interest. This case will only be proven if this DNA found on JB`s body is found, otherwise the Ramsey's will always be under suspicion and in doubt. Edited September 5, 2016 by docyabut2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 5, 2016 #20 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) December will be the 20th anniversary of JonBenet's death. It's notoriety is it's own worse enemy. I think the Ramseys will always be under suspicion, but there were things found that morning to point to an outside perp and the police handling of the case left a whole lot to be desired. One thing I do blame the Ramseys for is pushing that little girl into pagents that can be havens for child molesters. Who knows who could have seen her? No matter how you twist this around, that is not a normal childhood. The family is easy to blame, but there was no bonafide proof against them either. This case is as unsolved now as it was then. If the DNA shows up in a database, it will answer who was there. It didn't match any of the Ramseys. Edited September 5, 2016 by susieice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 6, 2016 #21 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Susieice I don `n t know why they are bringing up this case again on the media, perhaps only for the money and interest. This case will only be proven if this DNA found on JB`s body is found, otherwise the Ramsey's will always be under suspicion and in doubt. Watching the show. They spoke with British pathologists and showed them the photos and evidence they had, and the British refuted the claims of the Boulder Police. It isn't only Americans that doubt their case. That DNA was found in two diffferent places on JonBenet's body. Two spots were found on the left and right inside waistband of her leggings and one was found in her panties. The three profiles match. They are from a male. None of them match the family members or friends they tested. The DNA profile is in Codis waiting to see if a match turns up. Burke was presented. He was 9 yrs old and weighed around 85-90 lbs. No way would he have been strong enough to inflict that kind of damage on his sister. The ending is that the Boulder Police staked everything on the Ramseys being guilty and now they are unable to solve this crime. They only looked at evidence they felt made their case and ignored a lot more. One of the first officers on the scene says he no longer believes the family did this. You had to watch to see all the evidence they brought up. Edited September 6, 2016 by susieice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 6, 2016 #22 Share Posted September 6, 2016 They have now run a new DNA test and it can show the racial background of the donor. They can pick out characteristics of the donor from the DNA, although they didn't go deep into that. They can also run familial DNA tests to see if a family member has DNA in Codis. It's definitely from an unknown male. In time, they just might get a hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted September 6, 2016 #23 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Did anyone else ask themselves when and who filmed those productions ? The relaxed one with Patty wearing black and sitting in the white/floral chair or the one they used so often with all of the flower arrangements in the background ? Did you notice the interviews showed nothing of who was doing the interview and never included another voice asking questions. It wasn't Barbara Walters. Her early interview had them sitting in brown leather chairs. It certainly was not the original CNN interviews or Larry King. Didn't they seem a little more relaxed than those interviews? Could it have been that along the way their own attorneys did promo interviews that were never shown before the A & E doc last night? Why that would be pretty disgusting wouldn't it ? Maybe someone else can find who did them but I just went through youtube and found nothing even similar. Now the police interview with Burke was interesting. He was certainly a much bigger kid than I ever pictured. They had him in a rather large chair and he pretty well filled it. His lack of control over himself as he sat barefoot one way, then the other, curled up, then sideways, acting like no one had ever told him to sit in a chair correctly. I can remember my own kids cavorting that way when they were three, by four they would have known not to do that especially out of their own home in sitting other peoples' furniture and even talking to an adult. Also remarkably for the entire hour that I watched before my gag reflex started acting up, his facial expressions were entirely inappropriate the entire time, even to the point of inappropriate smiling ! Nerves perhaps or mental problems ? Now that my stomach has quieted down, I'm going to have to watch the rest of it and see if they included in the clips when he put his hands over his ears and started making computer type bells and whistle sounds. He did that when the interviewer asked him if anything ever happened that was sexually inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 6, 2016 #24 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I have to disagree with you on this one Vincennes. I have to agree with the investigators that the Boulder Police and the media focused so exclusively on the Ramseys that it will be difficult for them to look at the evidence that was ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincennes Posted September 6, 2016 #25 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I think if you look over the timetables you will be surprised. The time they found the body is recorded along with the time the Ramsey's left the house. I'm guestimating here because I have an appt but it wasn't much more than an hour. Ramsey himself spoke of them being "ordered out of the house." I don't believe that's true but which is it ? Were they being interrogated or ordered out ? From there the Ramsey's refused further interviews with the police for a ridiculous amount of time. Another point they made last night was that the Ramsey's didn't leave the area. They didn't because John got caught by police there after going into another room away from the police and calling up his pilot to get the plane ready. I seriously would like to know if anyone can find those interviews I pointed out. They looked to have both been made soon after the murder. From the time period it looks like, I'm guessing they were promo pieces just in case they were arrested after the indictment ....... Every interview released seems to be on youtube but NOT those ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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