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Hanslune

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This is the semi-famous 'crackpot index' for physics.

I would like to suggest that we; using this as a base, create a 'fringe index of confusion' for archaeology or perhaps specifically just for Ancient Egypt.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

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or GreenLantis?

or theIca stones?

or the "perfect right angles" on South American 'H-Stones'  some of which are 3cm out of square over 18cm.

perhaps an inquiry and collaborative treatise on the usage of cold water co2 geysers and funicular transport in ancient construction. I can think of a member who may be apropos to spearhead such an endeavour...

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Good point we would probably need such lists for Peruvian archaeology and other places also. The idea will be to place in easy to use fashion a list of the most common mistakes usually applied to ancient Egypt and the other places as we go along. Things like:

The great pyramid is situated at the center of the geographical world

The great pyramid shows extraordinary precision and accuracy in its alignments/ orientation

etc,

For Peruvian the ones you mentions

The 17,000 year age of PP

The elongated skulls are of a genetically different race

No one can replicate the stone work made by the 'Inca'

etc.

 

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That was one of the funniest lists I've read in a long time. The sad part is just how common the list items turn out to be.

1. There should be points for misreading the information on a map, such as interpreting climate zones as elevation zones

2. There should be points for pareidolia

3. There should be points for making fake images and other evidence

4. There should be points for connecting events that are thousands to millions of years apart

5. There should  be points for posting evidence for your idea that is actually proof your idea is wrong

6. There should be points for claiming that a general property is a unique identifier for your site (such as the existence of metamorphic rock)

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7. There should  be points for explicitly stating that you cannot read the ancient texts

8. There should be more points for stating that the writing associated with an ancient image is not relevant

9. There should be points for claiming paranormal insight

10. There should be points for seeing pyramids wherever you look

11. There should be points for using your personal ancestry as a basis for your ideas

12. There should be points for mentioning Atlantis as in this is where Atlantis lies, or the evidence comes from a book from the library of Atlantis

13. There should be points for claiming the ancients had advanced technology such as electrical networks, atomic bombs, etc.

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23 minutes ago, Irna said:

Much shorter, there is the classical history oriented Skept-o-meter by the rogueclassicist: https://rogueclassicism.com/2013/10/22/the-rogueclassicist-skept-o-meter/

Thank you Irna that is much appreciated

 

  1. Claim is made by someone who is not a specialist (i.e. with a degree) in the discipline
  2. Claimant has an “Indiana Jones” type epithet, often self-imposed
  3. Topic of claim is one of the long-standing mysteries (e.g. Cleopatra’s tomb, Alexander’s tomb, anything related to Atlantis, the Ark of the Covenant, something biblical, etc.)
  4. Claim is initially made on a press release site and later picked up by mainstream media
  5. Claim has not appeared in a scholarly journal nor is ‘in press’
  6. The word “decode” is used at least once in the cliam claim
  7. The phrase “years of research” figures prominently
  8. Claimant justifies position with references to the Trojan War or Galileo
  9. Claimant suggests a “coverup” of some sort by academics
  10. Claim is made on a significant date (especially if related to early Christianity … Easter and Christmas are the big dates)
  11. Newspaper report doesn’t actually ask a specialist for a contrary opinion
  12. Mention of a documentary to come is made in the concluding paragraphs
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There should be points for incredulity over primitive people's being able to construct an object. 

 Bonus for the object being modern or relatively modern. 

Even more if the object is natural. 

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Wouldn't it be easier just to list the believers in such theories?  The list would be far shorter.

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UM should buy some of these and offer them as prizes for  the most points scored . 

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17x19 New Correct Map of the Flat Surface Stationary Earth John G. Abizaid 1920

  • AU $22.02
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  • +AU $15.54 postage
  • Only 1 left!
     
     
    Only $22  !  :rolleyes:      Love the reading instructions at the very top line    
     
     

 

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Grand prize ;   Archaic Anthropoid skull from Australia ( courtesy of Rex Gilroy - 'Yowie Hunter ') .  

 

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(the one on the left, that is ) 

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Thanks for all the replies I will consolidate them during the weekend.

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Wait, has this one been offered?

Claimant declares he and only he knows "the truth" about an historical event or time.

That one really burns me. Just sayin'.

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1 minute ago, kmt_sesh said:

Wait, has this one been offered?

Claimant declares he and only he knows "the truth" about an historical event or time.

That one really burns me. Just sayin'.

Or they claim they have a supernatural source which is giving them privilege information about an event, construction or culture.

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2 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

Or they claim they have a supernatural source which is giving them privilege information about an event, construction or culture.

I've seen both. The supernatural angle isn't as common but suggests either outright deception or some degree of delusion.

But we seem to have more posters on average who claim to be the only ones who have the "real" answers, and to me it's not just delusional but so damn arrogant. I can't stand it.

Editing to add: After all, everyone knows the only person around here who is all-knowing and supremely brilliant is Harte.

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Citing the any of the following people as reliable sources:

1. Sitchin

2. Von Daniken

3. Anyone on "Ancient Aliens" 

4. Semir Osmanagic

5. Velikovky

6. Plato (:innocent:)

7. Cayce

8. Berlitz

And so on.......................... 

Edited by Noteverythingisaconspiracy
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23 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

Or they claim they have a supernatural source which is giving them privilege information about an event, construction or culture.

No, wait...isn't that what your can of Hormel chili (without beans) does for you?

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22 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

After all, everyone knows the only person around here who is all-knowing and supremely brilliant is Harte.

Yes that is correct. I have Harte do my taxes, change my oil  and he fixed my in-sink-erator by his mere existence. We owe all to the great Harte!!

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2 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

No, wait...isn't that what your can of Hormel chili (without beans) does for you?

Strangely the Atlantean priest who lives in the can showed up when I was dealing with yet another dude who thought he was channeling yet another Atlantean - MY Atlantean set him straight on a few things. It was most fortunate that he showed up.

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1 minute ago, Hanslune said:

Yes that is correct. I have Harte do my taxes, change my oil  and he fixed my in-sink-erator by his mere existence. We owe all to the great Harte!!

Just don't mention a certain location in Greece. If you do that he becomes like a little child. :P 

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21 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Citing the any of the following people as reliable sources:

1. Sitchin

2. Von Daniken

3. Anyone on "Ancient Aliens" 

4. Semir Osmanagic

5. Velikovky

6. Plato (:innocent:)

7. Cayce

8. Berlitz

And so on.......................... 

9. Ignatius Donnelly

10. David Icke

11. Helena Blavatsky

12. Mario Dantas :lol:

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Perhaps we should call the yet to be created index the 'The Harte Ultimate Dumb' chart or THUD

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1 minute ago, Carnoferox said:

12. Mario Dantas :lol:

Leave Mario of the list. He is our own special little crackpot. :P

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1 minute ago, Carnoferox said:

9. Ignatius Donnelly

10. David Icke

11. Helena Blavatsky

12. Mario Dantas :lol:

Would any of the new crop fit in or are they more 'reasonable'? Hancock, Bauval or are they just recycling stuff?

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