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Is the Internet our ultimate achievement ?


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I think it is maybe the greatest achievement so far, but then in the 1800s trains and telegraphs were the greatest achievements, right? What may come of the internet, just as highways came from trains, and laser satalites came from the telegraphs, we can't really say.

My best guess would be a entirely Virtual Reality immersive environment, which would be an internet that appears 3D and includes all senses. I expect that it will entirely consume many people, so that they forget to eat, or drink, and become withered husks. It will be really cool though to go house shopping and never leave your chair, or go to a library and seemingly read paper books, or actually be inside your favorite movies, fighting alongside Spiderman, Thor or Hawkeye (well maybe not Hawkeye...). It will be really cool as long as people don't get into it too deeply.

 

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No, Rubbery Octobots are! ^-^ 

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17 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said:

No, Rubbery Octobots are! ^-^ 

Quite possibly. We'll need those rubberly little b*****s to feed our physical bodies as our senses wander the holographic universe. Without one you won't have the other.

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The ability to share ideas, in real time with all of humanity, broadcasting the perfection of in prefect ideas everywhere at once, a prefect platform wherein no person is judged by race, religion, color, creed or gender (or even lack thereof of any or all of those factors) compared to something as horrible as flush toilets that move **** out of your home into some place that is not your home?

I am not sure, the internet is kinda great, but a house filled with human waste is............wait, the internet actually brings a lot of waste into my home...........

Great, now I am experiencing the delight of discovery mixed with the ultimate reality of the real world.

Can somebody just post some pix of kittens?

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32 minutes ago, bubblykiss said:

Can somebody just post some pix of kittens?

Hummmm..... I don't know. Posting stuff like that might be against the UM Terms of Usage. Too cute, and all that.... Could cause a seizure or stroke.

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At the moment?  Yes.

I'd say it's more of an evolved library with some extra bells and whistles rather than something new though.

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I tend to think that the internet is just a normal stage in the development of technology for information access. It has a long way to go but I hardly think of it as mankind's "greatest" achievement. If that is all we have under our collective belt then I think we are in serious trouble.

I would think that the ongoing process of developing technology that allows a paraplegic to walk again would rank pretty high.

Don't get me wrong, the internet is nice and all and allows for greater ability to research things and all but to call it our "greatest" achievement seems a bit much. I would think that the net was bound to happen in some form or another anyways.

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Since I work at Intel, I am forced to say that the Greatest invention of mankind is the computer processor. B)

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22 hours ago, UM-Bot said:

Virginia Heffernan believes the Internet to be mankind's single greatest achievement.

 

Its mankind's greatest achievement and if we're not careful the cause of WW3.

What happens as the decades pass, as people become dissatisfied with their current forms of Government (including Republics), and realise the internet makes new types available? I personally hope we get Technocracy using the internet to utilise everyone with expert knowledge on a topic throughout the country.

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28 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

Its mankind's greatest achievement and if we're not careful the cause of WW3.

What happens as the decades pass, as people become dissatisfied with their current forms of Government (including Republics), and realise the internet makes new types available? I personally hope we get Technocracy using the internet to utilise everyone with expert knowledge on a topic throughout the country.

Real democracy, where everyone who has something to contribute can contribute rather than depending on a few who rarely have any real knowledge about anything but get into power because they have ambition for power? that might prevent WW3 (or WW4 by then, who knows) by taking power out of the hands of the megalomaniacs.

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1 hour ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said:

Real democracy, where everyone who has something to contribute can contribute rather than depending on a few who rarely have any real knowledge about anything but get into power because they have ambition for power? that might prevent WW3 (or WW4 by then, who knows) by taking power out of the hands of the megalomaniacs.

I would prefer internet technocracy:

1. The ordinary people get to vote on matters over the net that dont require specific skills and experience to make an informed decision.

2. Everyone with a degree and 5 years experience in their field get to vote on matters they have the skills and experience to make an informed decision on. Ordinary people are blocked. So as an example use the internet to get every single person with an economics degree and 5 years economics experience voting to decide the economic policy. We currently use MPs to do that job but 700 MPs (of whom only a few would be knowledgeable about economics). Using internet technocracy we could expand it out to maybe even 50,000. It would result in better decision making and more people performing that process instead of a few MPs in a Government.

I bet there will be leaders who try to stop it to keep power for themselves.

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46 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said:

I would prefer internet technocracy:

1. The ordinary people get to vote on matters over the net that dont require specific skills and experience to make an informed decision.

2. Everyone with a degree and 5 years experience in their field get to vote on matters they have the skills and experience to make an informed decision on. Ordinary people are blocked. So as an example use the internet to get every single person with an economics degree and 5 years economics experience voting to decide the economic policy. We currently use MPs to do that job but 700 MPs (of whom only a few would be knowledgeable about economics). Using internet technocracy we could expand it out to maybe even 50,000. It would result in better decision making and more people performing that process instead of a few MPs in a Government.

I bet there will be leaders who try to stop it to keep power for themselves.

Considering there are super powerful politicians who can't be convinced that a voter should have a free card, much less a computer/phone to vote on... I'd say it isn't going to happen anytime soon. 

This kind of thinking will be dismissed out of hand as Racist and Abusive. Despite it being logical and probably highly efficient and effective.

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48 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Considering there are super powerful politicians who can't be convinced that a voter should have a free card, much less a computer/phone to vote on... I'd say it isn't going to happen anytime soon. 

This kind of thinking will be dismissed out of hand as Racist and Abusive. Despite it being logical and probably highly efficient and effective.

And hence we best get building our bunkers because when this type of thing starts occurring, which I'm sure it will in the odd country every decade, they will surely try to put it down.

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The internet has the greatest current impact on humanity. There's something ahead of us though that is going to blow the internet away.

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Hmmm, Internet the ultimate achievement ... I'm not sure about that ... I guess the Internet has lowered productivity, now people are sitting at meetings at work looking at their phones to see if their friends have written something interesting on Whatsapp or Facebook instead of listening to the meeting ... and people can now watch porn whenever they want to without going through the embarrassment of telling a real physical person that you want to rent a naughty movie or buy a porn magazine. Great achievements ... or maybe not.

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On 8/27/2016 at 1:42 PM, Zalmoxis said:

 There's something ahead of us though that is going to blow the internet away.

Care to speculate on that ?

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On ‎8‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 7:47 AM, Habitat said:

Care to speculate on that ?

Virtual reality in a network setup.

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