Claire. Posted August 31, 2016 #1 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Trump discusses border wall with Mexico, sidesteps payment issue. Donald Trump told Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto on Wednesday that the United States has the right to build a border wall to halt illegal immigration, but the Republican presidential candidate did not bring up his signature demand that Mexico pay for it. In an unexpected trip to a country that he has vilified for causing illegal immigration and drug smuggling into the United States, Trump held talks with the Mexican leader at his Los Pinos residence for about an hour. Read more: Reuters 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted August 31, 2016 #2 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) And yet on Yahoo this morning one of the trending headlines was some negative statement Vincenze Fox made about Trump Edited August 31, 2016 by OverSword 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted August 31, 2016 #3 Share Posted August 31, 2016 They're waiting for the Trump punchlines ... ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted September 1, 2016 Author #4 Share Posted September 1, 2016 So now Mexico is contradicting Trump on paying for the border wall. Donald Trump told Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto on Wednesday he would build a border wall to keep illegal migrants out if he wins the U.S. presidency, but Pena Nieto held fast to his position that Mexico would not pay for it. Contradicting Trump's assertion that the pair did not discuss who would pay for his proposed wall, Pena Nieto said after the departure of the Republican presidential candidate that he told him during their private meeting in Mexico City that his government would not pick up the bill. Source: Reuters 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted September 1, 2016 #5 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Sounds like he's saving face. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted September 1, 2016 #6 Share Posted September 1, 2016 When they were standing 5 feet apart and Trump made that claim, Nieto had every chance to correct him. After the meeting Nieto was getting hammered and made that up to make him look better to his own country. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted September 1, 2016 #7 Share Posted September 1, 2016 On any other day I would have loved it if they came to blows right there and then on the stage ... but things being as they are today that would have left corpses all over the place as surely guns would have been involved one way or another ... ~ ahhh well ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted September 1, 2016 #8 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Clinton was also invited but didn't want to go so she calls Trumps visit a photo op. Which I guess means she won't go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted September 1, 2016 #9 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Clinton will not put herself in any situation her people don't have complete control over. She hasn't had an actual press conference in like 9/10 months. It's to her benefit to just hold tight for the next two months. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted September 1, 2016 #10 Share Posted September 1, 2016 She's afraid of the questions that will be asked. Might bring on a seizure or she will zone out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted September 1, 2016 #11 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The Trumpo could have had an opportunity to build, well, bridges rather than walls, say that he was being metaphorical or rhetorical or something, but he still clings to this wondrously impractical idea? I'm not sure whether that's integrity and sticking to his principlies or mere delusion. Either way he's still immeasurably more fun than the robot Clinton, that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted September 1, 2016 #12 Share Posted September 1, 2016 What does this invitation to Mexico have anything to do with the Election is what I wanna know ... and who is paying for it ? ~ is Mexico voting too ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted September 1, 2016 #13 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, third_eye said: ~ is Mexico voting too ? Umm yeah in the form illegal aliens 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted September 1, 2016 #14 Share Posted September 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kurzweil said: Umm yeah in the form illegal aliens You just committed treason against the Constitution ... ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted September 1, 2016 Author #15 Share Posted September 1, 2016 UPDATE: Trump returns to hardline position on illegal immigration. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump vowed on Wednesday that anyone who is in the United States illegally would be subject to deportation if he is elected, sticking with his hardline position after flirting with a softer approach. In a major speech in the border state of Arizona, Trump took a dim view of the 11 million people who crossed into the United States illegally, a week after saying many were "great people" who had lived in the country for years and contributed to American society. He said all people in the United States illegally would have "only one route" to gain legal status if Trump were to win the Nov. 8 presidential election: "To return home and apply for re-entry." "Our message to the world will be this: You cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the United States by illegally entering our country," Trump said. "People will know you can't just smuggle in, hunker down and wait to be legalized," he said. "Those days are over." Read more: Reuters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted September 1, 2016 #16 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I can understand Trump saying about deporting the illegal immigrants, and earlier he said criminal illegals would be first (wish our government would be a bit more robust on this front) and I can understand him wanting to build a wall = but asking the Mexicans to pay for it? hmm....bit much there. Reckon if the Americans want to build a wall on their side of the fence, then they should be paying for it = maybe Trump will ask some of the legal Mexican immigrants who are looking for work, to build it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 1, 2016 #17 Share Posted September 1, 2016 59 minutes ago, Clair said: UPDATE: Trump returns to hardline position on illegal immigration. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump vowed on Wednesday that anyone who is in the United States illegally would be subject to deportation if he is elected, sticking with his hardline position after flirting with a softer approach. In a major speech in the border state of Arizona, Trump took a dim view of the 11 million people who crossed into the United States illegally, a week after saying many were "great people" who had lived in the country for years and contributed to American society. He said all people in the United States illegally would have "only one route" to gain legal status if Trump were to win the Nov. 8 presidential election: "To return home and apply for re-entry." "Our message to the world will be this: You cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the United States by illegally entering our country," Trump said. "People will know you can't just smuggle in, hunker down and wait to be legalized," he said. "Those days are over." Read more: Reuters Good for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted September 1, 2016 Author #18 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just now, Thorvir Hrothgaard said: Good for him. I agree. It's the right and only way to do it. I wouldn't go so far as to ban Muslims from specific countries, but would insist that the same stringent entry requirements be applied to everyone entering the country and that the process in place be reviewed and altered to permit enhanced scrutiny if necessary. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted September 1, 2016 Author #19 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Reckon if the Americans want to build a wall on their side of the fence, then they should be paying for it = maybe Trump will ask some of the legal Mexican immigrants who are looking for work, to build it. Yes, we should pay for the wall. There's no excuse for us not to. Throwing that into the mix will not only complicate matters, it will take away from the more important issues. Edited September 1, 2016 by Clair Added stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobolds Posted September 1, 2016 #20 Share Posted September 1, 2016 If he want to embarrassing himself , feel free to do it but don't bring the whole nation with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted September 1, 2016 #21 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) what is so embarrassing about wanting your borders to be secure? it would be embarrassing if we do not. Obama's bowing and apologizing embarrassed us more than anything trump said. Edited September 1, 2016 by aztek 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 1, 2016 #22 Share Posted September 1, 2016 15 hours ago, Ashotep said: Clinton was also invited but didn't want to go so she calls Trumps visit a photo op. Which I guess means she won't go. Because she can't risk having a seizure until after the election 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted September 1, 2016 #23 Share Posted September 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, kobolds said: If he want to embarrassing himself , feel free to do it but don't bring the whole nation with you. Meaning??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted September 1, 2016 #24 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) I like the idea of hiring illegal aliens to build the wall. Edited September 1, 2016 by OverSword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted September 1, 2016 #25 Share Posted September 1, 2016 32 minutes ago, OverSword said: I like the idea of hiring illegal aliens to build the wall. Don't hire them. Use the ones being picked up to deport. While they are waiting for their day in court, they can spend it doing something constructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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