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US Marijuana Use Grows As Fewer People Worry About the Risks

Marijuana use is on the rise in the U.S., and one reason may be that people perceive the drug as less harmful than people did in the past, according to new research.

Read more: Live Science

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Yes weed is much less harmful then beer and hard liquor. When is the last time u hread a domestic violence involving weed or when is the last time u hread my dsd  came home stoned and beat me up lol never going to happen this only whens when people drink beer and liquor, so weed is better then liquor and beer

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I was ambivalent about marijuana use until I read a study done many years ago by a group that wanted to come at the "gateway" drug issue from a different direction so they only polled drug rehab therapists across the country. The end result was that 100% of the therapists said that 100% of their patients started with marijuana. That's one hell of a statistic!

It doesn't mean that everyone who smokes pot will become heroin addicts, but it does mean that all heroin addicts start with pot.

 

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43 minutes ago, skliss said:

I was ambivalent about marijuana use until I read a study done many years ago by a group that wanted to come at the "gateway" drug issue from a different direction so they only polled drug rehab therapists across the country. The end result was that 100% of the therapists said that 100% of their patients started with marijuana. That's one hell of a statistic!

It doesn't mean that everyone who smokes pot will become heroin addicts, but it does mean that all heroin addicts start with pot.

 

I support the "gateway" thought.   But legalizing it could drastically decrease it.    I think the "gateway" happens because of the people you must buy your pot off of typically are in to other drugs.

I remember being a teenager.   Me and my buddies thought it'd be cool to buy a joint.   We got directed to a guys house.   Went in and did buy a joint ($2 I think).   The guy offered us some cocaine too.   We didn't partake in that.   But I can see that if we were to continue to go to his house to buy some weed, we may have started to try it.  

If people didn't have to associate with the dealer element, I think pot would cease to be a gateway drug for the most part.  

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3 hours ago, skliss said:

I was ambivalent about marijuana use until I read a study done many years ago by a group that wanted to come at the "gateway" drug issue from a different direction so they only polled drug rehab therapists across the country. The end result was that 100% of the therapists said that 100% of their patients started with marijuana. That's one hell of a statistic!

It doesn't mean that everyone who smokes pot will become heroin addicts, but it does mean that all heroin addicts start with pot.

 

kinda useless study if you ask me,  i'm pretty sure all alcoholics started with beer. is beer a gateway drink? does everyone who drinks beer become alcoholics?

it does not matter how many % started with weed, it does not mean weed made them do heroin, i'm 100% sure there are more people that smoke and do not do any other drug, than those who got hooked on heroin.

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2 hours ago, Myles said:

I support the "gateway" thought.   But legalizing it could drastically decrease it.    I think the "gateway" happens because of the people you must buy your pot off of typically are in to other drugs.

I remember being a teenager.   Me and my buddies thought it'd be cool to buy a joint.   We got directed to a guys house.   Went in and did buy a joint ($2 I think).   The guy offered us some cocaine too.   We didn't partake in that.   But I can see that if we were to continue to go to his house to buy some weed, we may have started to try it.  

If people didn't have to associate with the dealer element, I think pot would cease to be a gateway drug for the most part.  

a friend of mine went to mexico resort years ago, he was trying to get some weed, he could not, cockaine, any time, any amount, weed no.  than he did find 1 guy who was willing to get him some weed only if he bought cocaine from him. heroin was also just as easy to get as coke

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Do they know for certain that use is growing, or is it just that more people are willing to admit to using weed now that it is legal in many states?

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I think abuse stems from a tendency towards addiction. If people have that tendency, then they're more likely to do drugs or alcohol or gambling or whatever else to excess. A lot of the time it seems that people are using to self-medicate, as well. 

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according to stats there are around 1 million heroin users in usa,  there are about 20+ millions of pot users, so every 1 out of 20 weed users move up to heroin, that is 5%, that number does not prove weed= heroin latter,

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13 minutes ago, aztek said:

kinda useless study if you ask me,  i'm pretty sure all alcoholics started with beer. is beer a gateway drink? does everyone who drinks beer become alcoholics?

it does not matter how many % started with weed, it does not mean weed made them do heroin, i'm 100% sure there are more people that smoke and do not do any other drug, than those who got hooked on heroin.

Yeah, is tobacco a gateway drug? How about caffeine?

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1 minute ago, ChaosRose said:

Yeah, is tobacco a gateway drug? How about caffeine?

good question, if one wants to see it that way, it is, i know most weed users smoke cigarettes too. coffee, idk, doctors say in small amounts it is actually good for you, buy my coworker's brother is dying from heart issues, he used to drink like 10 cups a day. 

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8 minutes ago, ChaosRose said:

 If people have that tendency, then they're more likely to do drugs or alcohol or gambling or whatever else to excess. 

that is actually one of the best arguments, addiction does not come from outside, it is inside us, drugs, casinos, alcohol.............etc, are only triggers,

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1 minute ago, aztek said:

good question, if one wants to see it that way, it is, i know most weed users smoke cigarettes too. coffee, idk, doctors say in small amounts it is actually good for you, buy my coworker's brother is dying from heart issues, he used to drink like 10 cups a day. 

The real issue is dopamine. People who become addicts are chasing that dopamine rush, regardless of how they get it. And it could be due to a chemical imbalance in their brains. If that doesn't get addressed, then they're going to seek after things that give them that. It could be food, sex, gambling, whatever. 

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8 hours ago, Myles said:

I support the "gateway" thought.   But legalizing it could drastically decrease it.    I think the "gateway" happens because of the people you must buy your pot off of typically are in to other drugs.

I remember being a teenager.   Me and my buddies thought it'd be cool to buy a joint.   We got directed to a guys house.   Went in and did buy a joint ($2 I think).   The guy offered us some cocaine too.   We didn't partake in that.   But I can see that if we were to continue to go to his house to buy some weed, we may have started to try it.  

If people didn't have to associate with the dealer element, I think pot would cease to be a gateway drug for the most part.  

I think it's the opposite...I think that pot being illegal is/was a deterrent to some people who might have tried it otherwise. Also that while illegal people who use it recreationally are/were more likely to do it in the privacy of their homes. I worry that the excuse of it being legal will result in more DUI's and younger and younger kids using it.

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14 hours ago, skliss said:

I was ambivalent about marijuana use until I read a study done many years ago by a group that wanted to come at the "gateway" drug issue from a different direction so they only polled drug rehab therapists across the country. The end result was that 100% of the therapists said that 100% of their patients started with marijuana. That's one hell of a statistic!

It doesn't mean that everyone who smokes pot will become heroin addicts, but it does mean that all heroin addicts start with pot.

 

Well think about it. Because it is a black market item you have to get it from a guy who sells other black market items, more then likely.

so he gives a free sample for you to try. Those that try the free sample get hooked and go back for more.

 

you remove the black market you remove that free sample. You remove that free sample and well you have a lot less hard drug addicts.

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15 hours ago, skliss said:

I was ambivalent about marijuana use until I read a study done many years ago by a group that wanted to come at the "gateway" drug issue from a different direction so they only polled drug rehab therapists across the country. The end result was that 100% of the therapists said that 100% of their patients started with marijuana. That's one hell of a statistic!

It doesn't mean that everyone who smokes pot will become heroin addicts, but it does mean that all heroin addicts start with pot.

 

I can also guarantee you that 100% of drug users started out with caffeine.

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11 hours ago, ChaosRose said:

Yeah, is tobacco a gateway drug? How about caffeine?

Now that I see it, you beat me to it.

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I'd rather people smoke pot than other drugs. At a Vancouver, B.C. sanctioned, well "safe place to do your drugs" (Insite, I believe) they found that 86% of the other drugs contained fentanyl. People are overdosing and dropping like flies.

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Marijuana is not without both benefits (it sometimes helps alcoholics and alcohol is a much worse drug) and harms (e.g., the "pothead").  

A free society does not ban things unless there is a genuine social threat, at least as serious as alcohol, (I know, I'm arguing tu quoque), so its use should not be penalized and its sale and manufacture should only be regulated and licensed.  This is an example of how very few societies in the world, and especially America, are not genuinely free, in spite of the propaganda.

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Parts of America are getting it, in a few years Canada (nation wide) might get it too.

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8 hours ago, Frank Merton said:

Marijuana is not without both benefits (it sometimes helps alcoholics and alcohol is a much worse drug) and harms (e.g., the "pothead").  

A free society does not ban things unless there is a genuine social threat, at least as serious as alcohol, (I know, I'm arguing tu quoque), so its use should not be penalized and its sale and manufacture should only be regulated and licensed.  This is an example of how very few societies in the world, and especially America, are not genuinely free, in spite of the propaganda.

Which society is genuinely free?

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At this time I don't agree with trying to show increases in numbers. Really, if there is going to be an increase in chronic users, it will only be apparent after 5 to 10 years.

I did read somewhere that driving+pot+texting was UP, and that driving and texting while high on pot is a really bad idea. Save the texts for when you pull over people.

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It should be legal for sure.

My only issue with the free pot moment is that they try to downplay that there are any harmful effects

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