+ouija ouija Posted October 12, 2016 #1 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Gable Tostee seems like a nasty piece of work .... echoes of Pistorious there. Be warned, the audio recording is a bit harrowing if you are at all sensitive. I'm wondering what he'll be charged with; unfortunately it won't be murder. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833824/Gable-Tostee-s-Tinder-messages-New-Zealand-tourist-Warriena-Wright-fell-Gold-Coast-apartment.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted October 12, 2016 #2 Share Posted October 12, 2016 ^ OMG! That audio is a lot harrowing! I kept thinking this guy is the real life character from that movie, American Psycho! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 12, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Also, the 'selfie' he took of the two of them together(not the one where she has her fingers in a 'V'), I find really haunting .... she looks as if something really bad has happened to her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewarrior Posted October 12, 2016 #4 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Wait. . .he just put her out on the balcony and she tried to climb down? I admit, it all seems like some really bad sex date gone wrong, but it seems like he was detaining her in order to call the police maybe? And she decided to climb down on her own and killed herself? Wow. . .this one is a doozy. . .I mean if she did it to herself. . .and he only detained her. . .possibly to get help removing her. . .wow. . . and he's being charged with murder? not manslaughter? negligence? they are actually treating it as if he pushed her off the balcony?. . .I don't know. . .he did far less than Pistorious. . .that balcony should have been structurally sound. . .provided someone doesn't try to climb down. . . Edited October 12, 2016 by timewarrior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewarrior Posted October 12, 2016 #5 Share Posted October 12, 2016 3 hours ago, regi said: ^ OMG! That audio is a lot harrowing! I kept thinking this guy is the real life character from that movie, American Psycho! I don't know, sounded to me like he was tired of her crazy antics. . .is there any actual evidence that he did anything other than lock her out on the balcony? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 12, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Look at the difference in size. All he had to do was pick her up and put her outside the front door. He actually says something along the lines of: if you don't stop I'll throw you off the balcony! He was enjoying every minute of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 13, 2016 #7 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Trial still in progress. I can't see a murder conviction being a possibility. Manslaughter doubtful, evidence from a pathologist today that there were no signs of attempted strangulation. The pathology report listed old scars on both wrists, seemingly a troubled young woman who paid with her life for a foolish sexual escapade with a creep she did not know. Edited October 13, 2016 by Habitat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewarrior Posted October 13, 2016 #8 Share Posted October 13, 2016 15 hours ago, ouija ouija said: Look at the difference in size. All he had to do was pick her up and put her outside the front door. He actually says something along the lines of: if you don't stop I'll throw you off the balcony! He was enjoying every minute of it. I'm really not surprised or even fathomed at the fact that a guy was bigger than a girl. He might have enjoyed the power trip, but is that still proof she was pushed? All I got from the news reports is that he was an @$$, locked her out, and she did this to herself. . .if that is what happened, then how can he be held responsible for something she did to herself when he had no idea she'd be so stupid? The news report made it seem like everyone agreed she tried to climb down, so unless there was evidence that he was going to cut her up right there on the balcony, giving her a reason to try to escape, then how in the heck is he considered responsible? I know, I'm playing a huge devil's advocate here. . .but this whole case is just weird. . .d@mn weird. . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewarrior Posted October 13, 2016 #9 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Habitat said: Trial still in progress. I can't see a murder conviction being a possibility. Manslaughter doubtful, evidence from a pathologist today that there were no signs of attempted strangulation. The pathology report listed old scars on both wrists, seemingly a troubled young woman who paid with her life for a foolish sexual escapade with a creep she did not know. Exactly! Previous suicide attempt. Mentally unbalanced. . .thought she could climb down a balcony. At most you could find the guy guilty of not being psychic and being able to predict that she wouldn't behave like a rational person locked on a balcony and would instead try to climb down like in the movies and fall to her death. . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 13, 2016 Author #10 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I don't think he tried to push her, but I think he probably made her so frightened for her life that she felt compelled to try to escape .... possibly thinking she could swing onto the balcony immediately below. Perhaps he was on the balcony with her threatening her with something, but just out of sight of the people who saw her climb over the railing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted October 13, 2016 #11 Share Posted October 13, 2016 It rests on the neighbor's testimony ... if he was on the balcony with her it doesn't matter if he pushed or not ... the threat of harm should be sufficient for the courts a recent similar incident in Thailand ... google links ~ *sigh* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 13, 2016 #12 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The police case is he tried to strangle her, which is not confirmed by the pathologist's report. Sounds like a difficult decision for the jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted October 13, 2016 #13 Share Posted October 13, 2016 17 hours ago, timewarrior said: I don't know, sounded to me like he was tired of her crazy antics. . .is there any actual evidence that he did anything other than lock her out on the balcony? I can only imagine what had transpired during those previous 4 or so hours before the recording but in that audio, he came across to me as in charge and in control, taunting, demeaning and abusive. In the first place and I think very important to consider, he didn't sound to me as though he was under the influence, yet I think it's clear that she was under the influence of something and I highly doubt it was from a six pack purchased over 4 hours earlier. That audio, it was very unsettling for me to hear. One of the more disturbing aspects was that I do believe what I heard at one point were the sounds of her strangling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 13, 2016 Author #14 Share Posted October 13, 2016 ^ ^ Absolutely! No words, just the sound of strangulation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted October 13, 2016 #15 Share Posted October 13, 2016 54 minutes ago, Habitat said: The police case is he tried to strangle her, which is not confirmed by the pathologist's report. I think it's a circumstance which is impossible to be determined anatomically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 13, 2016 #16 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Tough for a jury to decide, I think the audio is helping the defence, but what really transpired will likely never be known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted October 13, 2016 #17 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 hours ago, timewarrior said: At most you could find the guy guilty of not being psychic and being able to predict that she wouldn't behave like a rational person locked on a balcony and would instead try to climb down like in the movies and fall to her death. . . I would hope one wouldn't need to be psychic in order to know that a person of a certain state of mind- in this case, absolutely terrified, whether real or imagined (doesn't matter)- shouldn't be forced out onto a 14 story balcony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 13, 2016 #18 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Oh my God. That was horrible. At some point, I couldn't stand it and tried to stop the audio, but I couldn't figure out which thing was playing. That's just awful. I was obviously listening to that poor woman being dragged out to the balcony in fear of death. We all probably just heard her being pushed over the balcony. He even says he's gonna do it. Edited October 13, 2016 by ChaosRose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 13, 2016 Author #19 Share Posted October 13, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3835499/Warriena-Wright-blood-alcohol-reading-three-times-legal-limit-fell-Gable-Tostee-Gold-Coast-balcony.html A little bit more information today: there were red marks on her neck. Also, old scars on her body were described as 'self-inflicted'(to suggest she was mentally unstable, I guess), but I would like to know how they know they were self-inflicted ......... for sure. Everybody picks up scars through their childhood and teens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 13, 2016 #20 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The callous disregard of Tostee to the girl's fate after her plunge from his balcony would weigh heavily with me, were I on that jury. He made no attempt to render assistance or call for assistance, but wandered over to a nearby pizza shop for a feed. It will be a travesty if he walks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 13, 2016 #21 Share Posted October 13, 2016 It seems likely the girl was heavily fortified with alcohol before arriving at the unit, if she was three times over the limit as mentioned above. It was never going to be a good evening for her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted October 13, 2016 #22 Share Posted October 13, 2016 If she was that messed up after drinking, and acting irrational, putting her out on a 14 story balcony would not be wise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 14, 2016 #23 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Tostee today has elected not to take the stand, or call witnesses in his defence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regi Posted October 14, 2016 #24 Share Posted October 14, 2016 17 hours ago, Habitat said: He made no attempt to render assistance or call for assistance, but wandered over to a nearby pizza shop for a feed. Do you think he was attempting to establish an alibi or what? I don't know, but I do think it definitely shows consciousness of guilt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted October 15, 2016 Author #25 Share Posted October 15, 2016 'I want to go home. Just let me go home,' Ms Wright can be heard pleading on the audio. 'I would, but you've been a bad girl,' Tostee responded. She was left her in such terror to cause her to escape then he 'caused her death as much as if he pushed her himself', Mr Cash told the jury. 'What then was her only reasonable and rational option in those circumstances? The only remaining option to attempt to climb down the balcony to escape Gable Tostee,' Mr Cash said. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3837503/Warriena-Wright-feared-Gable-Tostee-climbed-Gold-Coast-balcony-escape.html#ixzz4NAcQGhby Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook ^ ^ this shows how bad his intent was. He was refusing to let her leave even though she was begging to be allowed to do so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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