Zalmoxis Posted October 15, 2016 #1 Share Posted October 15, 2016 A ton of stories and claims and reports about ET is everywhere on the internet. A good percentage is made up but I'm willing to believe that a lot of those stories and claims are genuine. But genuine isn't enough. Only hard factual physical evidence will do. So I thought to myself, "What actual real proof is there available to us civilians who don't get security access and a look inside at the real deal?" I did the only thing I could do... Google it. Here's some links to websites that present what little proof we got. There ain't much. http://www.ancient-code.com/the-ultimate-evidence-earth-has-been-visited-by-intelligent-alien-civilizations/ http://www.mysticfiles.com/5-pieces-of-evidence-that-suggests-intelligent-alien-life-exists/ http://www.history.co.uk/shows/ancient-aliens/articles/do-aliens-exist-most-compelling-evidence-of-alien-existence It seems that the best of what we got is word of mouth. Astronauts, secret agents and government contractors all made plenty of claims. Declassified documents tease us with some ideas of what some of them are and where they might've come from but there isn't one of these saucers on display anywhere for us to look at. No ET public appearances. Nothing. There was some talk earlier this year about an announcement but that one never came. They said the same thing last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 15, 2016 #2 Share Posted October 15, 2016 It will be out in December . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes4747 Posted October 16, 2016 #3 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Which December?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted October 16, 2016 #4 Share Posted October 16, 2016 52 minutes ago, Wes4747 said: Which December?? The one when the news comes out. That one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted October 16, 2016 #5 Share Posted October 16, 2016 9 hours ago, Zalmoxis said: A ton of stories and claims and reports about ET is everywhere on the internet. Yes indeed, on the internet.... When and if ANYONE KNOWS FOR SURE.... that aliens exist...it will be on TV....in the media..... not some cheap website... GUARANTEED! It'll be the biggest news story.... EVER! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalmoxis Posted October 21, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It's still not December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted October 21, 2016 #7 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I am of the opinion that i should not post in this thread. Damn! I did it again. Stupid stupid stupid. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 21, 2016 #8 Share Posted October 21, 2016 There is even better word of mouth. The amatuer astronomy contingent. Hundreds of thousand of people networked across the world sharing their love of the sky and under the command of nobody, it is a global interest. They can tell you, not one UFO has even been tracked as "coming into, or out of" the earth, or our atmosphere. In fact, all the astronomy forums I have joined see the UFO/Alien questions as very annoying and draining their well earned credibility. They generally "don't take kindly to them types" and for good reason. The UFO's that RADAR picks up all have very terrestrial orbits, not one of them ever has been tracked as even so much as heading for space. They want to see something like that as much as anyone, so do I, but reality has to be considered as well. It seems pretty obvious to me that is you wanted to visit a planet, you would at least attempt communications first. It just makes sense to have the very first visit be a cheap, no risk alternative that can travel at the speed of light already. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalmoxis Posted October 23, 2016 Author #9 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 10/21/2016 at 0:24 AM, psyche101 said: It seems pretty obvious to me that is you wanted to visit a planet, you would at least attempt communications. I think it would be naive to say that any extra terrestrial species that arrives at our planet would be friendly and want to communicate with humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlawde Posted October 23, 2016 #10 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I believe there are UFOs, meaning literally Unidentified Flying Objects. Are they piloted by aliens though? It's possible, but I really think they are something else. There is little proof they come from other planets, yet just like how our ancient ancestors invented gods to explain things they don't understand, perhaps we invented aliens to try and explain the unexplainable. I have a feeling the real truth is far stranger than aliens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 24, 2016 #11 Share Posted October 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Zalmoxis said: I think it would be naive to say that any extra terrestrial species that arrives at our planet would be friendly and want to communicate with humans. Why? Aliens with a sense of curiosity are impossible? How? Any reason that hostile aliens are the most likely option? Do you think we would be hostile if we found ourselves capable of visiting others? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 24, 2016 #12 Share Posted October 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Vlawde said: I believe there are UFOs, meaning literally Unidentified Flying Objects. Are they piloted by aliens though? It's possible, but I really think they are something else. There is little proof they come from other planets, yet just like how our ancient ancestors invented gods to explain things they don't understand, perhaps we invented aliens to try and explain the unexplainable. I have a feeling the real truth is far stranger than aliens Not one UFO has ever been recorded coming in from outer space and entering our solar system, and entering our atmosphere, and no UFO ever has been tracked as leaving our atmosphere and heading out into space. If such happened, we could extrapolate a trajectory and guess at a destination, like e did with the WOW! signal. Fairly simplistic I know, but that situation would be markedly different if we are getting visits from alien craft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted October 24, 2016 #13 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Playing along with the little green man theory, I find it highly likely if they are here just out of curiosity and to observe then why wouldn't the planes be cloaked? I mean if you want to investigate I find it reasonable to do it as discretely as possible, for all they know we are just waiting to attack and eat anything that gets near us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_shaman Posted October 24, 2016 #14 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I suggest you read "Muon cascades in high temperature non-ferric plastic super-conductors". -JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalmoxis Posted October 24, 2016 Author #15 Share Posted October 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, psyche101 said: Why? Aliens with a sense of curiosity are impossible? How? Any reason that hostile aliens are the most likely option? Do you think we would be hostile if we found ourselves capable of visiting others? There would be a thousand different scenarios for ET at our planet. The most popular two are they could either be peaceful or hostile. I Googled this and overwhelmingly the number of articles are in favor of a hostile ET visit. They could also be indifferent and not interested in humans, sort of passing through on the galactic highway. Personally I think that a lot of alleged ET evidence that psuedo-science enthusiasts offer is the most likely scenario; that ET was on Earth in the past and ET is on Earth with us right now. ET is not a single specie. ET is secretly in control of all the human power centers. I'm not saying that's true but that's what I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalmoxis Posted October 24, 2016 Author #16 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Shouldthisexist said: Playing along with the little green man theory, I find it highly likely if they are here just out of curiosity and to observe then why wouldn't the planes be cloaked? I mean if you want to investigate I find it reasonable to do it as discretely as possible, for all they know we are just waiting to attack and eat anything that gets near us. Actually I read several reports that the greys actively abduct humans for food yet mutilate cattle. I don't know about you but I would choose a beef steak over a manchop no matter what under any circumstance. If they are real and on Earth they definitely are cloaked. Wouldn't that be our protocol upon visiting any habitable planet? Edited October 24, 2016 by Zalmoxis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted October 24, 2016 #17 Share Posted October 24, 2016 45 minutes ago, Zalmoxis said: There would be a thousand different scenarios for ET at our planet. Agreed. 45 minutes ago, Zalmoxis said: The most popular two are they could either be peaceful or hostile. I Googled this and overwhelmingly the number of articles are in favor of a hostile ET visit. That is what we imagine though, I canot see any reasoning behind those ideas. Seems more Hollywood based than any actual thought. 45 minutes ago, Zalmoxis said: They could also be indifferent and not interested in humans, sort of passing through on the galactic highway. Yes, I have posted an amusing short story on that. I will post it again after this for a chuckle. 45 minutes ago, Zalmoxis said: Personally I think that a lot of alleged ET evidence that psuedo-science enthusiasts offer is the most likely scenario; that ET was on Earth in the past and ET is on Earth with us right now. ET is not a single specie. ET is secretly in control of all the human power centers. I'm not saying that's true but that's what I read. I just see no evidence to support that claim, I have heard the claims, they do not stand to scrutiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post psyche101 Posted October 24, 2016 Popular Post #18 Share Posted October 24, 2016 As promised, this come from THIS LINK. THEY'RE MADE OUT OF MEAT"They're made out of meat." "Meat?" "Meat. They're made out of meat." "Meat?" "There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." "That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?" "They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines." "So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact." "They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines." "That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat." "I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat." "Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage." "Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?" "Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside." "Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through." "No brain?" "Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you." "So ... what does the thinking?" "You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat." "Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!" "Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?" "Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat." "Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years." "Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?" "First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual." "We're supposed to talk to meat." "That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing." "They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?" "Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat." "I thought you just told me they used radio." "They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat." "Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?" "Officially or unofficially?" "Both." "Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing." "I was hoping you would say that." "It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?" "I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say? 'Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?" "Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact." "So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe." "That's it." "Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You're sure they won't remember?" "They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them." "A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream." "And we marked the entire sector unoccupied." "Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?" "Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again." "They always come around." "And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ..." 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 24, 2016 #19 Share Posted October 24, 2016 11 hours ago, Zalmoxis said: I think it would be naive to say that any extra terrestrial species that arrives at our planet would be friendly and want to communicate with humans. So ... It would be wise to say every visiting ET is hostile? Nope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted October 24, 2016 #20 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I think it would be silly to assume they are friendly, or hostile. Even so personally I would take a cautious approach when meeting a "alien" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted October 24, 2016 #21 Share Posted October 24, 2016 45 minutes ago, Shouldthisexist said: I think it would be silly to assume they are friendly, or hostile. Even so personally I would take a cautious approach when meeting a "alien" Well, according to most accounts, your 'approach' will be determined for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted October 24, 2016 #22 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Shouldthisexist said: I think it would be silly to assume they are friendly, or hostile. Even so personally I would take a cautious approach when meeting a "alien" Could be the nicest alien in the universe but might carry a germ on it's skin that we're not prepared to handle. Filthy aliens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted October 24, 2016 #23 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kurzweil said: Could be the nicest alien in the universe but might carry a germ on it's skin that we're not prepared to handle. Filthy aliens. Yes!! Well that's more what I was getting at not that "omg alienz gunna eat us dudes" but more we don't know if they are carrying pathogens that harmless to them are deadly to us? I'm saying being cautious but things that normally aren't thought of could have be potential dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted October 24, 2016 #24 Share Posted October 24, 2016 41 minutes ago, Sweetpumper said: Well, according to most accounts, your 'approach' will be determined for you. You mean like abduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted October 24, 2016 #25 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Shouldthisexist said: Yes!! Well that's more what I was getting at not that "omg alienz gunna eat us dudes" but more we don't know if they are carrying pathogens that harmless to them are deadly to us? I'm saying being cautious but things that normally aren't thought of could have be potential dangerous. I'd approach with the shirt over the nose and mouth if i had to be the first to meet them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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