back to earth Posted October 28, 2016 #101 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Also ; " And on you seals ye shall inscribe the eagle but not the phoenix ." John 15.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 28, 2016 #102 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) On 25/10/2016 at 7:29 AM, back to earth said: What ... the .... hell ... was .... that ? Oh wait ... I am sure walker will be able to explain it and a 1 and a 2 and a .... It is the second hermetic principle of seven, purportedly taught by hermes tresmegistus, and used in modern witchcraft. It is known as the principle of correspondence and basically explains how different things have a correspondence or attachment with other things. I assume the poster was using it to explain the connection between the inner world of meditation and the outer world of physical reality. Meditation might be able to bring the inner and outer worlds into alignment (or correspondence. ) Edited October 28, 2016 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 28, 2016 #103 Share Posted October 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, back to earth said: Also ; " And on you seals ye shall inscribe the eagle but not the phoenix ." John 15.12 Ha ha I didn't think this was a bible verse. Too out of context; but you had me going there for a minute. Indeed the masons, being mystical Christians, WOULD quite likely have disguised the phoenix so it might be mistaken for an eagle. . i love you as god loves me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsupremo Posted October 28, 2016 #104 Share Posted October 28, 2016 13 hours ago, MWoo7 said: GOD@! I"m glad there are sharp minds inthe world. Certainly piques the interests/curiosity, never boring in here. No, I'm certainly not an Alchemist so I don't have much to say except .. well a thought, a form of waves might be used to make subtle minute changes to the tangible/materials, medical comes to mind but sadly that will probably be last for that specific advancement. Alchemy is for me a condition more than a practice or a belief. For example, when looking at my life critically, I discovered that my situation and circumstances where following an alchemical path. What sealed it for me was when I saw a vision of the Phoenix while sitting in my living room. I was not and am not a student of alchemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 28, 2016 #105 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Are you talking about something like taoist inner alchemy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsupremo Posted October 28, 2016 #106 Share Posted October 28, 2016 3 hours ago, XenoFish said: Are you talking about something like taoist inner alchemy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neidan Yes, but my path cannot be broken apart and named, it is involuntarily and one does not even know you're on it until late in the process. You might for example read Lao Tzu and say that sounds like my life. The path teaches by itself. One doesn't need a teacher. I was told by someone that my teacher is the rays of the sun. Maybe it can be taught, but I doubt it. Am I saying these teachers are frauds? No, I am not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 28, 2016 #107 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Elsupremo said: Alchemy is for me a condition more than a practice or a belief. So, you dont practice it ... ir believe in it ... but you are in a ' condition of alchemy ' 7 hours ago, Elsupremo said: For example, when looking at my life critically, I discovered that my situation and circumstances where following an alchemical path. Even though you dont believe in that or practice it ? 7 hours ago, Elsupremo said: What sealed it for me was when I saw a vision of the Phoenix while sitting in my living room. Ummmm .... are you sure you were not at a BBQ and a bit out of it ? 7 hours ago, Elsupremo said: I was not and am not a student of alchemy. No ... you are not . So maybe you should stop writing rubbish about things you know nothing of ? ... Just a wild idea I had. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 28, 2016 #108 Share Posted October 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Elsupremo said: Yes, but my path cannot be broken apart and named, it is involuntarily and one does not even know you're on it until late in the process. You might for example read Lao Tzu and say that sounds like my life. The path teaches by itself. One doesn't need a teacher. I was told by someone that my teacher is the rays of the sun. Maybe it can be taught, but I doubt it. Am I saying these teachers are frauds? No, I am not So you've really got nothing. Unless you want to claim life is your path, in that case everyone's doing that who isn't dead. If you are practicing alchemy, you're either in the lab or doing inner alchemy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted October 29, 2016 #109 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) So .. you all in here might know, ah what's the difference or ? whatever ah ... the opposite of dualism?, I once ran into a Berkley type that had mentioned dualism is out, not an in thing fad/popular or some such I forget now. Edited October 29, 2016 by MWoo7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted October 29, 2016 #110 Share Posted October 29, 2016 singalism? jmccr8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted October 29, 2016 #111 Share Posted October 29, 2016 YEah eh ? its getting too late for me .... eh thanks HA! I'm preeeeeeeeeteheheheey sure that's not it, but it could be, anyway it was a newer modern thing and I was mentioning that I couldn't really see how it would go out of favor because everything from atoms to the universe is at play, the opposites you know, anyway I couldn't remember it so I thought I'd ask and who knows maybe its singularity HA! just kidding. Okay thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsupremo Posted October 29, 2016 #112 Share Posted October 29, 2016 16 hours ago, back to earth said: So, you dont practice it ... ir believe in it ... but you are in a ' condition of alchemy ' Even though you dont believe in that or practice it ? Ummmm .... are you sure you were not at a BBQ and a bit out of it ? No ... you are not . So maybe you should stop writing rubbish about things you know nothing of ? ... Just a wild idea I had. All right I admit I looked up the definition of alchemy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes4747 Posted October 29, 2016 #113 Share Posted October 29, 2016 On 10/26/2016 at 9:34 PM, XenoFish said: Nada Apologies Xeno, stuck quote box. Sprayer of insane bible quotes, I do empathize with discovering you are ignorantly following a well defined spiritual path. Just keep going and learning, don't claim false knowledge. Leave the doors open. Best of wishes to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 29, 2016 #114 Share Posted October 29, 2016 The hell you are saying? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted October 29, 2016 #115 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Hmmmmm yeah ah read every bit in here ? didn't catch that wes,ah maybe quote boxes aren't working sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes4747 Posted October 29, 2016 #116 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 24 minutes ago, XenoFish said: The hell you are saying? Not u, rederict at the phoenix fellow lol remember being a kid and discovering something on your own for the first time? Thinks that may be where our bible reading amigo (from a parallel universe) may be coming from. Its usually not as important as we would like it to be, but we cherish, build up, and defend the discovery. Edited October 29, 2016 by Wes4747 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted October 29, 2016 #117 Share Posted October 29, 2016 On 10/17/2016 at 4:54 PM, XenoFish said: 4A little thought experiment I did once, was to think about a real miracle happening at a church by someone who wasn't a christian. I could think of one really bad outcome because of this. They want miracles but if it doesn't conform to their paradigm it's 'evil'. Makes no sense to me. I think most religions deal in God concentrate. God is homogenized, processed, made shelf stable, and put in conveniently sized portions that will fit between the ears of an average human. Customers know they are getting the authentic God by the color and Logos on the label. Religions become like mega food processors. God is only a raw material. A profitable product becomes more important than a nourishing one. Not to worry.The most nourishing food often come from the garden you cultivate for yourself. I would be wary of confinement jars. It takes energy and attention to be a jailer that is better spent somewhere else. Besides, confined things have little to do but plan escape, eventually they succeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 29, 2016 #118 Share Posted October 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Wes4747 said: Not u, rederict at the phoenix fellow lol remember being a kid and discovering something on your own for the first time? Thinks that may be where our bible reading amigo (from a parallel universe) may be coming from. Its usually not as important as we would like it to be, but we cherish, build up, and defend the discovery. yes ... but he did lead me to an invaluable discovery ... that the concept of the phoenix may have inspired a modern world favorite ; 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 30, 2016 #119 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On 29/10/2016 at 2:37 PM, MWoo7 said: So .. you all in here might know, ah what's the difference or ? whatever ah ... the opposite of dualism?, I once ran into a Berkley type that had mentioned dualism is out, not an in thing fad/popular or some such I forget now. Na! Dualism isn't really out, just illegal. Of course modern automatic weapons and the lack of good duelling schools has minimised its practice Seriously though, there does seem to be a growing, if misguided, philosophical position that mind and matter are one, rather than separate entities, and that somehow mind and body /brain are one entity. Scientifically, it is becoming increasingly clear that mind is something completely different to, and separate from, brain or body. The work on true artificial intelligence is a major factor in this position . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 30, 2016 #120 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I think every chaote has had this moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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