Popular Post Merc14 Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post #1 Share Posted October 20, 2016 A piece of aluminium that looks as if it was handmade is being hailed as 250,000-year-old proof that aliens once visited Earth. Metallic aluminium was not really produced by mankind until around 200 years ago, so the discovery of the large chunk that could be up to 250,000 years old is being held as a sensational find. The details of the discovery were never made public at the time because it was pulled out of the earth in communist Romania in 1973. Builders working on the shores of the Mures River not far from the central Romanian town of Aiud found three objects 10 metres (33 feet) under the ground. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/experts-believe-mysterious-aluminium-object-9086060 To me it looks like a tooth from the edge of an excavator bucket and one of the comments below the article agrees and said aluminum teeth on excavator buckets are used around gas lines to reduce sparking. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted October 20, 2016 #2 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It looks like a Pokeman character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 20, 2016 #3 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I always love when people say things like, ' large chunk that could be up to 250,000 years' Because the other side of Could is Could Not.... Edited October 20, 2016 by joc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouldthisexist Posted October 20, 2016 #4 Share Posted October 20, 2016 So from what I'm reading there is actually no way to accurately date the aluminum it's self. So does that mean they are relative dating the debris encasing the artifacts? If so then all their estimations are going to be off regardless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_shaman Posted October 21, 2016 #5 Share Posted October 21, 2016 How would a chunk of aluminum that large "look" handmade? Such a piece would be smelted and then cast. Nothing about that would "look" handmade in a traditional sense. EvenUtzi's copper axe ~5000 years old is described as cast and honestly couldn't be dated without being absolutely tied to Utzi and all his organics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted October 21, 2016 Author #6 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The whole thing is pretty pathetic and very obviously not ancient but I wanted to put it on the table so we can all have had a look for future reference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 21, 2016 #7 Share Posted October 21, 2016 A blog with a detailed debunking, for those interested;Link I know the mirror is a rag, but I'm honestly surprised to see this being run through. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted October 21, 2016 #8 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Here's another take on the object: Link to the quote below Quote It was discovered by workers while digging a trench along the Mures river in Romania in 1974. It was found next to mastodon (distantly related to Elephants) bones. researchers who have had the time and opportunity to examine the object believe it is not a natural formation. Aluminium production requires enormous amount of heat, 1,000 degrees actually. Two separate laboratories tested the artifact but both laboratories received almost identical results. The object was tested in the Archaeological Institute of Cluj-Napoca, n Lausanne, Switzerland. It is composed 89 percent out of aluminium but also has traces of copper, zinc, lead, cadmium, nickel and smaller traces of other elements. Aluminium isn’t found freely in nature thus must be manufactured, but it has not been produced until the 1800’s. Even though its exact age is perhaps a debate among scholars, if the aluminium wedge was the same age as the mastodon bones it would make this mysterious piece at least 11,000 years old. Geological evidence places the Aluminium Wedge to be at least 10,000 years old. The oxidized layer coating has shown that the artifact is more likely to be around 400 years old, still placing way before aluminum was produced. The dating technique utilized to obtain the artifacts age was not released. The Aluminium wedge was stored in a museum up until 1995. Pseudoarchaeologists and Ufologists believed that this finding is evidence of extraterrestrial beings visiting Earth in the past. Floring Gheorgita a known Romanian ufologists believes that this item is actually a landing gear of an alien spacecraft. According to research the exact composition of the artifact is as follows: aluminum (89%) Copper (6,2%), silicon (2,84%), zinc (1,81%), lead (0,41%), tin (0,33%), zirconium(0,2%), cadmium (0,11%), nickel (0,0024%), cobalt (0,0023%), bismuth (0,0003%), silver (0,0002%), and gallium (in trace amounts). Even though there has been interest surrounding the Aluminium Wedge, some scholars believe that this item is just another… fake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 21, 2016 #9 Share Posted October 21, 2016 This aluminum excavator tooth keeps popping up as an OOPART. It is a recycled story that has been popping up for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted October 21, 2016 #10 Share Posted October 21, 2016 "It's obviously an excavator tooth!" "Aluminum is too soft for excavation." "Nu-uh! They use them around gas lines!" "The Ancients had gas lines too?" "Duh! How do you think they made the aluminum?" 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokingjoker Posted October 21, 2016 #11 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I agree completly thats its a tooth from the bucket that excavated the area, but interestingly when i try and search for images of excavator teeth, bucket teeth, from 1973 the only images i get are the ones of this item so i cant compare to another from that time frame. Most likely due to just lack of info. But come on its so close to a modern day tooth just silly how people dont see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNYC Posted October 21, 2016 #12 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I always love that you guys debunk most things, but on this one.. well... was hoping! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 21, 2016 #13 Share Posted October 21, 2016 so either this is 250,000years old or their dating is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 21, 2016 #14 Share Posted October 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, danielost said: so either this is 250,000years old or their dating is wrong. Sure Daniel. Sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merc14 Posted October 21, 2016 Author #15 Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, pokingjoker said: I agree completly thats its a tooth from the bucket that excavated the area, but interestingly when i try and search for images of excavator teeth, bucket teeth, from 1973 the only images i get are the ones of this item so i cant compare to another from that time frame. Most likely due to just lack of info. But come on its so close to a modern day tooth just silly how people dont see it. It would have, most likely, been a Soviet model so very hard to find examples I am guessing but agree that it is so close it is hard to not assume it is an excavator tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 21, 2016 #16 Share Posted October 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, danielost said: so either this is 250,000years old or their dating is wrong. Of course they dated it wrong daniel. It can't be older that 6000 years. You know for reasons. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted October 21, 2016 #17 Share Posted October 21, 2016 15 hours ago, ShadowSot said: A blog with a detailed debunking, for those interested;Link I know the mirror is a rag, but I'm honestly surprised to see this being run through. Most British newspapers are absolute b*ll***s. Really. I think you have an equivalent called 'The National Enquirer'. All the Tabloids, or red tops, are very heavily aimed at the type of people who really won't see anything wrong with the idea of a 250,000 kya aluminium object popping up in Romania. That's why they run this sort of article. It was also taken up by 'The Daily Mail', and it's poor idiot brother 'The Express'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted October 21, 2016 #18 Share Posted October 21, 2016 clear examples like many others archaeological artifacts out of place that carbon and radioactive dating science can go very wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted October 21, 2016 #19 Share Posted October 21, 2016 31 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: clear examples like many others archaeological artifacts out of place that carbon and radioactive dating science can go very wrong ! Except that there's no mention of carbon dating being used here. This is tabloid journalism going wrong not science. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 21, 2016 #20 Share Posted October 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, oldrover said: Most British newspapers are absolute b*ll***s. Really. I think you have an equivalent called 'The National Enquirer'. All the Tabloids, or red tops, are very heavily aimed at the type of people who really won't see anything wrong with the idea of a 250,000 kya aluminium object popping up in Romania. That's why they run this sort of article. It was also taken up by 'The Daily Mail', and it's poor idiot brother 'The Express'. Yep. Just didn't think they were this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 21, 2016 #21 Share Posted October 21, 2016 https://www.americanbazaaronline.com/2016/10/20/ufo-experts-claim-250000-years-old-aluminum-object-could-be-sign-of-alien-visit418485/ http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/723775/UFO-proof-old-aluminium-alien-ancient https://www.sott.net/article/331672-Experts-believe-mysterious-aluminum-object-dating-back-250000-years-could-be-ancient-UFO-technology just thought you would want more than one source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 21, 2016 #22 Share Posted October 21, 2016 39 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: clear examples like many others archaeological artifacts out of place that carbon and radioactive dating science can go very wrong ! Except it's almost certainly a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted October 21, 2016 #23 Share Posted October 21, 2016 i like how its a hoax because it doesn't agree with accepted science. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 21, 2016 #24 Share Posted October 21, 2016 No, it's a hoax because the story is from a tabloid, is obviously part of a digger and not a UFOS, and no identification for who did the testing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted October 21, 2016 #25 Share Posted October 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, danielost said: i like how its a hoax because it doesn't agree with accepted science. It's an excavator tooth. Someone is claiming an excavator tooth is part of an alien spacecraft. That's why it's a hoax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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