Myles Posted January 22, 2017 #1 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/22/when-horse-diapers-and-freedom-religion-collide.html Horse diapers have been thrust into the debate over religious freedom. Two Amish men in Auburn, Ky., filed a lawsuit last month saying a city ordinance requiring horses to wear equine diapers—bags designed to catch manure—violated the ability of Amish residents to exercise their religion. The ordinance, passed in 2014, broadened an existing law mandating the removal of dog waste in public places. The new law, which the city said was spurred by complaints from neighbors about horse manure, requires a “properly fitted collection device” to be placed on all horses walking on the street. Edited January 23, 2017 by Kismit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted January 22, 2017 #2 Share Posted January 22, 2017 This is going straight onto my list of 'titles I never expected to see'. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 22, 2017 #3 Share Posted January 22, 2017 LOL, the funniest part is where the Elders decided that the horse diapers were against their religion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redefining Success Posted January 22, 2017 #4 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Admittedly, I do get pee'd off with piles of horse manure on some roads go down, why don't the horse owners have to clean it up? Dog owners do, cats poo and usually bury it, or use the litter tray, birds can't really be responsible as they are wild. I think horse riders who go on the public road should have to come back and clean it up, at least put it in a field off the road. A horse took a dump out side my house, it was there for 3 weeks! I may get the horses are vegetarian arguement, but if I had a vegetarian dog, does that mean he/she could dump and I just leave it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted January 22, 2017 #5 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Seems reasonable you should have to pick up your own crap haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 22, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I live in Northern Indiana. There are Amish in certain cities. The diaper idea has failed in most of the cities. However it has past in many too. My issue is that they don't pay taxes, yet they use tax funded roads. Also, people would feel different after running through a few piles of horse crap and then pulling their vehicle into their garage. Nice smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 22, 2017 Author #7 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Several years ago the Amish fought tooth and nail against having to have lights on their buggies. They really didn't care that so many of their own children were dying in buggy/auto collisions. The local governments finally won on that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashotep Posted January 22, 2017 #8 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I don't know how many horses they are talking about here. I can see where if there were a lot of them it could cause a problem in town. So yea they should have to pick it up. Outside the city or town I don't think so. Also what does this have to do with religious freedom they aren't banning horses just making them more responsible for what their horses do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted January 22, 2017 #9 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Myles said: I live in Northern Indiana. There are Amish in certain cities. The diaper idea has failed in most of the cities. However it has past in many too. My issue is that they don't pay taxes, yet they use tax funded roads. Also, people would feel different after running through a few piles of horse crap and then pulling their vehicle into their garage. Nice smell. Amish do pay taxes. Income, sales, property, and any fuel taxes levied on the gasoline/diesel/propane they use. Personally I find the smell of manure less disagreeable than that of all the exhaust emissions in cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 22, 2017 Author #10 Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jarocal said: Amish do pay taxes. Income, sales, property, and any fuel taxes levied on the gasoline/diesel/propane they use. Personally I find the smell of manure less disagreeable than that of all the exhaust emissions in cities. You're right, I was being too vague. They are exempt from many taxes, but do pay some. Horse crap smells horrible. If someone lets their dog crap on a sidewalk, they should clean it up, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted January 22, 2017 #11 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Myles said: You're right, I was being too vague. They are exempt from many taxes, but do pay some. Horse crap smells horrible. If someone lets their dog crap on a sidewalk, they should clean it up, right? I live in a rural area with a high amish population and a lot of agriculture. Intermittent backfires from the drivetrain of an amish vehicle trouble me far less than other things in the community such as cafo operations that concentrate manure at hazardous levels. Road to road tillage of annual crops with an acceptable loss of 2mm topsoil per acre (roughly a tri-axle dump truck load of soil per acre washing or blowing away per year). To me, passing legislation that forces amish to put diapers on horses is chasing a low hanging fruit affecting a politically marginilized community while appearing to accomplish something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 23, 2017 Author #12 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Jarocal said: I live in a rural area with a high amish population and a lot of agriculture. Intermittent backfires from the drivetrain of an amish vehicle trouble me far less than other things in the community such as cafo operations that concentrate manure at hazardous levels. Road to road tillage of annual crops with an acceptable loss of 2mm topsoil per acre (roughly a tri-axle dump truck load of soil per acre washing or blowing away per year). To me, passing legislation that forces amish to put diapers on horses is chasing a low hanging fruit affecting a politically marginilized community while appearing to accomplish something. I also live in a rural area with many Amish. it may be smaller than other big issues, but it is still an issue. If your animal craps on the street, parking lot or sidewalk, take care of it. People have to do it with their dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted January 23, 2017 #13 Share Posted January 23, 2017 7 hours ago, spartan max2 said: Seems reasonable you should have to pick up your own crap haha If they refuse to do so, fine them for 110% of the cost it takes for the city/town to clean up after them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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