danielost Posted February 23, 2017 #1 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) i found out today that medicaid only pays for ten treatments and for a hospital it is cheaper after that to cut something off than it is to treat it. i almost lost my leg due to this. if obamacare does the same thing the will be a lot of people with out legs or arms. no links. this is personal knowledge and is wrong. Edited February 23, 2017 by danielost 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 23, 2017 #2 Share Posted February 23, 2017 there are many details that no one warned us about, people starting to find out the hard way. my mother in law had to visit a doctor in a hospital, and do a test, month or so later she got bill, insurance denied to pay anything for that visit, so she started calling, it turns out, under Obamacare, hospitals are not paid unless a person is admitted, no outpatient care is covered. if she knew she'd go to a different doctor, who does tests in private clinic, and it would be covered. but no one warned her, she had to pay $2700 out of pocket. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted February 23, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, aztek said: there are many details that no one warned us about, people starting to find out the hard way. my mother in law had to visit a doctor in a hospital, and do a test, month or so later she got bill, insurance denied to pay anything for that visit, so she started calling, it turns out, under Obamacare, hospitals are not paid unless a person is admitted, no outpatient care is covered. if she knew she'd go to a different doctor, who does tests in private clinic, and it would be covered. but no one warned her, she had to pay $2700 out of pocket. but obamacare covers 20,000,000 people who weren't covered so what if it doesn't cover your mom's hospital bill. what liberal cares about the rich. she has to be rich to cover that bill you know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 23, 2017 #4 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 minute ago, danielost said: but obamacare covers 20,000,000 people who weren't covered so what if it doesn't cover your mom's hospital bill. what liberal cares about the rich. she has to be rich to cover that bill you know. liberals only care about themselves. Obamacare was written by insurance companies for insurance companies, they found a way to sell 20mil more policies, (and raise price on tens of millions more of existing ones) and if you do not want one, they will fine you. this is what Obamacare is about, insurance companies, not people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarakore Posted February 23, 2017 #5 Share Posted February 23, 2017 This probably belongs in the conspiracy theory forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted February 23, 2017 #6 Share Posted February 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: This probably belongs in the conspiracy theory forum. It was a conspiracy; a conspiracy to swindle Americans out of money they don't have. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 23, 2017 #7 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) it is a conspiracy fact. not theory. since 2013 medicaid increased eligibility, so 10 mil people became eligible. that is 10 millions more have it basically free healthcare. now if i was one of them would i buy Obamacare policy, or apply for free medicaid? i think the answer is clear. i wonder if those 10 mil policies are included in 20 of newly insured. Edited February 23, 2017 by aztek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted February 23, 2017 #8 Share Posted February 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: This probably belongs in the conspiracy theory forum. That's a crappy thing to say. You just prove what they said about liberals. I work in the health insurance industry and believe me our commissions are not down. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 23, 2017 #9 Share Posted February 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: This probably belongs in the conspiracy theory forum. more like sad reality section, too bad we ain't got one. we should thou, there is plenty of it around 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startraveler Posted February 23, 2017 #10 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 hours ago, danielost said: i found out today that medicaid only pays for ten treatments and for a hospital it is cheaper after that to cut something off than it is to treat it. i almost lost my leg due to this. if obamacare does the same thing the will be a lot of people with out legs or arms. no links. this is personal knowledge and is wrong. Ten treatments for what? And in what state? Medicaid varies wildly from one state to the next. 3 hours ago, aztek said: there are many details that no one warned us about, people starting to find out the hard way. my mother in law had to visit a doctor in a hospital, and do a test, month or so later she got bill, insurance denied to pay anything for that visit, so she started calling, it turns out, under Obamacare, hospitals are not paid unless a person is admitted, no outpatient care is covered. if she knew she'd go to a different doctor, who does tests in private clinic, and it would be covered. but no one warned her, she had to pay $2700 out of pocket. Of course they cover outpatient care. Remember those ten essential health benefits the ACA requires all plans to cover? The ones that the right criticized as being overly generous? The very first one is ambulatory (outpatient) care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 24, 2017 #11 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Startraveler said: Of course they cover outpatient care. lol, tell that to a hospital that send the bill. than to insurance company who denied payments. Edited February 24, 2017 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 24, 2017 #12 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Medicaid is so stupid they hand out braces to poor people with bad joints. Because "degenerative disc disease" is irreversible yok yok. If I was trying to save my leg, unless something was critically life-threateningly wrong with my leg, I'd leave the hospital as quickly as possible and go actually heal my leg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 24, 2017 #13 Share Posted February 24, 2017 well, we do have half a million deaths a year in hospitals from medical mistakes, your worries are not unfounded 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarakore Posted February 24, 2017 #14 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Let me guess...Obama is behind it and Trump can fix it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 24, 2017 #15 Share Posted February 24, 2017 no and not really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted February 24, 2017 Author #16 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Startraveler said: Ten treatments for what? And in what state? Medicaid varies wildly from one state to the next. Of course they cover outpatient care. Remember those ten essential health benefits the ACA requires all plans to cover? The ones that the right criticized as being overly generous? The very first one is ambulatory (outpatient) care. I HAVE A HOLE IN MY FOOT THAT GOT INFECTED. the state of texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted February 24, 2017 Author #17 Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: Let me guess...Obama is behind it and Trump can fix it. no, medicaid has been around since before obama. only the people can fix it. in texas if you own a house or have more than 2000 dollars in the bank, they can deny you medicaid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin11 Posted February 24, 2017 #18 Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, aztek said: lol, tell that to a hospital that send the bill. than to insurance company who denied payments. Sounds like you have a crappy insurance policy/company, my outpatient care was covered by my ACA policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin11 Posted February 24, 2017 #19 Share Posted February 24, 2017 4 hours ago, aztek said: it is a conspiracy fact. not theory. since 2013 medicaid increased eligibility, so 10 mil people became eligible. that is 10 millions more have it basically free healthcare. now if i was one of them would i buy Obamacare policy, or apply for free medicaid? i think the answer is clear. i wonder if those 10 mil policies are included in 20 of newly insured. I bought the ACA policy and told the state that I didn't want medicaid. So I'm one of the newly eligible people that didn't choose "free" medicaid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 24, 2017 #20 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Odin11 said: I bought the ACA policy and told the state that I didn't want medicaid. So I'm one of the newly eligible people that didn't choose "free" medicaid. bravo, however i do not think you are majority, if it is not too much to ask, why were you not illegible before, and what aca changed? Edited February 24, 2017 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_shaman Posted February 24, 2017 #21 Share Posted February 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, Odin11 said: I bought the ACA policy What the heck is that? Tell us what it covered and how much you paid for it? 46 minutes ago, Odin11 said: and told the state that I didn't want medicaid. So I'm one of the newly eligible people that didn't choose "free" medicaid. Sounds so heroic. Can you please explain how this was so much better for you other than you decided to Pay for something? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarakore Posted February 24, 2017 #22 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lost_shaman said: What the heck is that? Tell us what it covered and how much you paid for it? Sounds so heroic. Can you please explain how this was so much better for you other than you decided to Pay for something? wth you just can't go around asking other users for that kind of information And is anyone going to tell danielost that they are not going to cut his foot off and that no, there will not be many people walking around without limbs due to this conspiracy theory. This is up there with Obamacare death panels. I would tell him but he wouldn't believe me. So take care of your own and tell him dudes. Edited February 24, 2017 by Avatar Samantha Ai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted February 24, 2017 #23 Share Posted February 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: wth you just can't go around asking other users for that kind of information And is anyone going to tell danielost that they are not going to cut his foot off and that no, there will not be many people walking around without limbs due to this conspiracy theory. This is up there with Obamacare death panels. I would tell him but he wouldn't believe me. So take care of your own and tell him dudes. YES you go and tell Daniel what he thinks is wrong. After all, you know more about his situation than he does. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin11 Posted February 24, 2017 #24 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, aztek said: bravo, however i do not think you are majority, if it is not too much to ask, why were you not illegible before, and what aca changed? It's no problem. I had a good job and my yearly earnings was above the cut off for medicaid. I left that job last Sep. after a bad incident with the owner (she came into the kitchen on labor day, drunker then I've ever seen her and literally screamed at me for 10 mins. for letting my saute cook take a much needed break after the rush, I walked out and didn't look back along with half the kitchen staff) Having no income made me eligible for medicaid but in Dec. when I renewed my policy I picked to keep it and not go for medicaid. But when I start my new job next month (restaurant is due to be opened March 13th. ) I'll no longer be eligible. I just realized that I may have read your post wrong so I'll answer the other way you mean too. In Michigan men were not eligible for medicaid before the ACA, now they are. 51 minutes ago, lost_shaman said: What the heck is that? Tell us what it covered and how much you paid for it? Sounds so heroic. Can you please explain how this was so much better for you other than you decided to Pay for something? ACA is the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare. For your information, this is the first time I've not had a job since I've left school. It's also the first time I've ever had the option to not pay. So don't sit there and try to make me look like a dead beat. And it's better for me because my policy covers things that medicaid doesn't. I'm not going to sit here and explain my whole policy. But I pay about $145 a month with a deductible under $1,000. Edited February 24, 2017 by Odin11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost_shaman Posted February 24, 2017 #25 Share Posted February 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said: wth you just can't go around asking other users for that kind of information Yeah I can certainly ask what I asked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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