Lilly Posted March 4, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Wow, just wow: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-him-before-election/98734316/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNate Posted March 4, 2017 #2 Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lilly said: Wow, just wow: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-him-before-election/98734316/ lol...had the same reaction...though I wonder if for the same reasons.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted March 4, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 4, 2017 It's not really surprising, is it? When you see the amount his team has been compromised by Russia, it's only natural that he would also be investigated. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted March 4, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Watergate 2.0 Something tells me nothing will become of it, even though I would like to see an indictment of Obama come down. Hey, a guy can dream. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted March 4, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lilly said: Wow, just wow: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-him-before-election/98734316/ The last couple of days we've heard Trump supporters say "If Obama knew and was concerned about Russia and Trump why didnt he do somethng then " Sounds like he actually did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OldNate Posted March 4, 2017 Popular Post #6 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said: It's not really surprising, is it? When you see the amount his team has been compromised by Russia, it's only natural that he would also be investigated. Just now, Farmer77 said: The last couple of days we've heard Trump supporters say "If Obama knew and was concerned about Russia and Trump why didnt he do somethng then " Sounds like he actually did. lol... You guys will forgive me if I wait until something more substantial than Trump's looney pre-morning-coffee tweets comes out before I begin the analysis. Right now this is just more jokes - I mean, a (so-called) Republican complaining about McCarthyism...that's like a Democrat complaining about Obamacare... Trump makes an honest to goodness amazing president...given that America's government has become a reality TV comedy for the rest of the world. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted March 4, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 4, 2017 There is no way intelligence teams would not have done a sweep of Trump's residences prior to his taking office. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 4, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Wonder how easy it would be for foreign countries to wiretap the Trump Tower as well. It's not as if the building was designed with national security in mind. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted March 4, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, OldNate said: lol... You guys will forgive me if I wait until something more substantial than Trump's looney pre-morning-coffee tweets comes out before I begin the analysis. Right now this is just more jokes - I mean, a (so-called) Republican complaining about McCarthyism...that's like a Democrat complaining about Obamacare... Trump makes an honest to goodness amazing president...given that America's government has become a reality TV comedy for the rest of the world. Personally, I can't see this being an outright lie. It's too grand. I mean an accusation like that, if false, is probably criminal by definition. It would be slander I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted March 4, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: Wonder how easy it would be for foreign countries to wiretap the Trump Tower as well. It's not as if the building was designed with national security in mind. Maybe that's where the 400,000 dollars of taxpayer's money being spent every day on Trump tower is going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 4, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, ExpandMyMind said: Personally, I can't see this being an outright lie. It's too grand. I mean an accusation like that, if false, is probably criminal by definition. It would be slander I think. I can see it happening. Republicans might stand idly by with the possibility of high treason going on, but I can see the CIA and the FBI taking a real close look. And since Obama was still president- the buck stops there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 4, 2017 This all stemmed from a Breitbart article. This man is absolutely nuts. Like I said in another thread..so much for him turning a corner with his big speech. Back to the same old same old. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/03/mark-levin-obama-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #13 Share Posted March 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, Claire. said: There is no way intelligence teams would not have done a sweep of Trump's residences prior to his taking office. Absolutely. But, we know how the minds of Trump supporters work. Today, they will be saying "but it's possible", requiring no evidence. Tomorrow it will be "he probably did wiretap Trump tower", still requiring no proof. And by the time the weekend is over, they will be screaming "Obama wiretapped Trump tower! Arrest him!", still no evidence needed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted March 4, 2017 Author #14 Share Posted March 4, 2017 49 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: The last couple of days we've heard Trump supporters say "If Obama knew and was concerned about Russia and Trump why didnt he do somethng then " Sounds like he actually did. Yeah, they did something alright...but they didn't find any evidence. So, now the FBI is investigating, will they find any evidence? Before everyone gets too excited perhaps we need to wait until the investigation is complete? What if the FBI finds no evidence of a Russian conspiracy what then? Oh, and what about all the illegal leaking, any connection to all this? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted March 4, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lilly said: Yeah, they did something alright...but they didn't find any evidence. So, now the FBI is investigating, will they find any evidence? Before everyone gets too excited perhaps we need to wait until the investigation is complete? What if the FBI finds no evidence of a Russian conspiracy what then? Oh, and what about all the illegal leaking, any connection to all this? If the investigations turn up nothing then we all celebrate, not because Trump the man is exonerated, but at the fact that the highest office in the land hasnt been compromised by a foreign superpower. As far as the illegal leaking goes, IDK and I certainly dont want to be in the position of trying to defend Obama too voraciously Edited March 4, 2017 by Farmer77 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted March 4, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, Lilly said: Yeah, they did something alright...but they didn't find any evidence. So, now the FBI is investigating, will they find any evidence? Before everyone gets too excited perhaps we need to wait until the investigation is complete? What if the FBI finds no evidence of a Russian conspiracy what then? Oh, and what about all the illegal leaking, any connection to all this? It will never be over, it will drag on and on like the Hillary emails until he is gone from office. Every time something pops up that even hints of Russia, it will flare to life again. It worked for the Republicans with Hillary and it will work for the Dems on Trump. Sad hard truth. Personally I think the Russians just ran a psych profile on Trump and decided that this was their guy and that is as far as it went for collusion. Any contact was just to stir the pot, so to speak. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #17 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: It will never be over, it will drag on and on like the Hillary emails until he is gone from office. Every time something pops up that even hints of Russia, it will flare to life again. It worked for the Republicans with Hillary and it will work for the Dems on Trump. Sad hard truth. Personally I think the Russians just ran a psych profile on Trump and decided that this was their guy and that is as far as it went for collusion. Any contact was just to stir the pot, so to speak. There is one huge difference in your comparison. Hillary's emails went through multiple investigations. She was cleared multiple times. Bring on an investigation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why not Posted March 4, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Agent0range said: There is one huge difference in your comparison. Hillary's emails went through multiple investigations. She was cleared multiple times. Bring on an investigation. Yeah, Hillary was cleared multiple times. Keep believing she did no wrong. As for a investigation into Russian ties to the Trump campaign, I'm with you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #19 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Why not said: Yeah, Hillary was cleared multiple times. Keep believing she did no wrong. As for a investigation into Russian ties to the Trump campaign, I'm with you. Check the archives, buddy. I never said she did no wrong. She absolutely did. But, according to our investigation process, not enough to be charged. She did also man up, state she did wrong, and apologized. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted March 4, 2017 #20 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) As it turns out, Breitbart is the source of Trump's inane conspiracy theory. An article entitled Mark Levin to Congress: Investigate Obama’s ‘Silent Coup’ vs. Trump stated the following: In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media. Yeah right. Edited March 4, 2017 by Claire. Fixed source url. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #21 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I truly hope Obama responds to this, and not in his usual way. Time to get nasty. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why not Posted March 4, 2017 #22 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'm not saying the wire tapping is true, but it honestly would not surprise me at all if it were true. I would also love to see Obama get "nasty". I could use a good laugh. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNate Posted March 4, 2017 #23 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said: Personally, I can't see this being an outright lie. It's too grand. I mean an accusation like that, if false, is probably criminal by definition. It would be slander I think. No, I don't imagine it's a complete fabrication...that would be shocking...but, if there's meat here, it will be served, I'll wait to hear the story outside of tweet ramblings is all I meant. In the meantime, another very classy communication from the POTUS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why not Posted March 4, 2017 #24 Share Posted March 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, OldNate said: No, I don't imagine it's a complete fabrication...that would be shocking...but, if there's meat here, it will be served, I'll wait to hear the story outside of tweet ramblings is all I meant. In the meantime, another very classy communication from the POTUS. Gotta agree with you, it's like his 10 year old son does the tweeting for him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 4, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, OldNate said: No, I don't imagine it's a complete fabrication...that would be shocking...but, if there's meat here, it will be served, I'll wait to hear the story outside of tweet ramblings is all I meant. In the meantime, another very classy communication from the POTUS. Or, he read a Breitbart story, and impulse tweeted, just like he watched a Fox News story, and impulsively mentioned a non-existent terror attack in Sweden. There is a very real chance that is exactly what happened, and it is a complete fabrication as a result of the real "fake news". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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