Still Waters Posted March 2, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 2, 2017 AN ECCENTRIC American says he will claim the British throne because of an obscure ancestral link. Kooky Allan V Evans put a rambling ad in The Times insisting he will launch a bid for his “royal historical estate” in just 30 days’ time. But the Queen need not worry just yet – as he has been kind enough to wait until after she dies before assuming the throne “out of greatest and most deepest respect”. http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/us-man-claiming-to-be-descendant-of-king-of-wales-vows-to-overthrow-heir-to-the-british-throne/news-story/4076b99a01067162897b15314968d452 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted March 2, 2017 #2 Share Posted March 2, 2017 There's been a few of these over the years. Unless it's the same guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 2, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think the best he can hope for is becoming 'King of Wales' ...... a thankless task if ever there was one! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted March 5, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 5, 2017 There is no rightful King of Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted March 5, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 5, 2017 It always kind of cracks me up when these folks pop up. Even if his bloodline is that pure... history didn't go that way buddy, deal with it. There's a bunch of people that have drops of old royal blood in them running around, and history didn't favor them either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted March 7, 2017 #6 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just thought this was amusing: An American man who claims to be a descendant of the last king of Wales has vowed to return to Britain and overthrow Prince Charles as heir to the throne. Allan Verno Evans, 55, placed an ad in The Times of London on Tuesday claiming he is the rightful heir to the throne and will launch a bid for his “royal historical estate” in just 30 days. The Colorado man says he has traced an unbroken line of primogeniture, the right of succession belonging to the firstborn child, back to the third century. https://www.rt.com/uk/379162-american-king-charles-throne/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted March 7, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 7, 2017 And I'm the real Mary Poppins! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingitsune Posted March 7, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) He has quite the political agenda, to depose the Queen no less (but he will spare her life). However, every monarch in Britain since Henry VII got their title to a parliament act which made Henry VII king regardless of anything else which could apply before. I don't think he could overthrow this one, no matter how sound his papertrail is. From another article: Quote And he is adamant that John Evans, the last known king of Wales, had travelled back and forth to America in the 17th century, establishing a line there and therefore his connection to the crown, But he said the “truth” had since been hidden and he believed people were working to keep it that way. [...]He also said that two unnamed genealogists had vetted his evidence – an inch-thick report entitled The Primogeniture Progeny in America of John Evans Snr of Tre’rgo (sic) in Anglesey, Wales, the Last Known King of Wales – and had found it to be correct. We'll see what comes of it, but I would think not much in the end. Maybe he'll get a fancy title and even some land, but the crown of Britain? He can dream on I guess. The last part of his announcement were he compare himself to Aragorn is quite tasteless. And finally, I wonder if his ancestors fought for the independence or with the Tories, and in the former case, would this disqualify them for any claim to anything in Britain? Edited March 7, 2017 by Gingitsune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted March 7, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 7, 2017 King Al? I doubt it. John Evans in Wales at any time was/is extremely common. Same with John Thomas, John Jones, etc. There were thousands of them. This belongs in the 'Bizarre, Weird, Offbeat' part of the News Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted March 7, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have a wee bit of Stuart blood. Can I claim some power in Scotland? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 7, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 05/03/2017 at 11:18 PM, Black Monk said: There is no rightful King of Britain. Except Arthur. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 7, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Soon to be a B-Movie on the Lifetime Channel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanc241 Posted March 7, 2017 #13 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) I am sure our Queen will react to this the same as all similar claims. Totally ignore it. As a fairly experienced family history researcher, I am skeptical his line is accurate pre the mid 1500s. ETA. The records will contain big fibs about paternity too. The only sure parent is the mother and even that has likely been falsified with replacement babies at times of necessity. I am also inclined to believe there are cases were babies were taken in by foster parents, then brought up as their own. People claimed parentage that was not true to further their own ends and when records were not kept by the state who could argue. All sorts of things weaken any such claim. They even proved Richard III had illegitimacy in his line back a couple or three generations. Edited March 7, 2017 by Susanc241 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted March 7, 2017 #14 Share Posted March 7, 2017 There is no rightful king of Britain, only a rightful queen - Elizabeth II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted March 7, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 02/03/2017 at 0:46 PM, Still Waters said: AN ECCENTRIC American says he will claim the British throne because of an obscure ancestral link. Kooky Allan V Evans put a rambling ad in The Times insisting he will launch a bid for his “royal historical estate” in just 30 days’ time. But the Queen need not worry just yet – as he has been kind enough to wait until after she dies before assuming the throne “out of greatest and most deepest respect”. http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/us-man-claiming-to-be-descendant-of-king-of-wales-vows-to-overthrow-heir-to-the-british-throne/news-story/4076b99a01067162897b15314968d452 He doesn't look very Kingly, he would need to get in shape first before he tries to convince us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted March 7, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Him and Elisabeth will have to meet in mortal combat, looking at him my moneys on her, "a pie a pie my kingdom for a pie" Edited March 7, 2017 by hetrodoxly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted March 7, 2017 #17 Share Posted March 7, 2017 A far more interesting news story would be the discovery of someone who is not descended from some King or Queen ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingitsune Posted March 7, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: He doesn't look very Kingly, he would need to get in shape first before he tries to convince us. He definitely need to learn to dress for the job he is trying to get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted March 7, 2017 #19 Share Posted March 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, Gingitsune said: He definitely need to learn to dress for the job he is trying to get. Dropping the shades would be a start. You'd think a potential king would know that the sun is in short supply in Britain, especially the further you head north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted March 7, 2017 #20 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Well he has one thing going for him, clearly the culmination of a thousand years of inbreeding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 7, 2017 #21 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 05/03/2017 at 2:29 PM, rashore said: It always kind of cracks me up when these folks pop up. Even if his bloodline is that pure... history didn't go that way buddy, deal with it. There's a bunch of people that have drops of old royal blood in them running around, and history didn't favor them either. Exactly. If you're going to go for someone whose ancestors go back directly to the very first British king, you're probably going to end up with some random bloke in a hut somewhere in Wales or Scotland. 12 hours ago, Black Monk said: There is no rightful king of Britain, only a rightful queen - Elizabeth II. Technically, also not the 'rightful' monarch since there's a break in the family bloodline. But the fact that she is queen would suggest otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 7, 2017 #22 Share Posted March 7, 2017 10 hours ago, RabidMongoose said: He doesn't look very Kingly, he would need to get in shape first before he tries to convince us. "...most deepest..." Ugh... the Rightful King's English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Monk Posted March 8, 2017 #23 Share Posted March 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Setton said: Exactly. If you're going to go for someone whose ancestors go back directly to the very first British king, you're probably going to end up with some random bloke in a hut somewhere in Wales or Scotland. Technically, also not the 'rightful' monarch since there's a break in the family bloodline. But the fact that she is queen would suggest otherwise She's the rightful monarch according to the Line of Succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 9, 2017 #24 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted March 15, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 15, 2017 That a western nation of Britain's stature is even having a conversation about who sits on a throne these days is the real conversation. Dissolve it already guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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