preacherman76 Posted March 16, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 16, 2017 SMH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 16, 2017 Author #2 Share Posted March 16, 2017 The establishments obsession with starting WW3 is down right sick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilly Posted March 16, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Oh for the sake of....seriously? I mean, is screaming: "You're in league with the Russians" now the default position for dealing with anyone you disagree with? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 16, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 16, 2017 whoever made video made sure the subject is not mentioned, i'm pretty sure he was talking about Ukraine, mc cain wants to give weapons to Ukraine to fight Russians in Donetsk lugansk. i do not think it will lead to ww3, but it can lead to a lot more Ukrainians dead. regardless what is done or not, Ukraine will have this war for years, it would not happen if they did not get rid of nukes in 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 16, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) I'm afraid old McCain has been genuinely certifiably insane for years. Remember that he stood for President in '08. Perhaps there was something to be grateful for Obama about after all. Edited March 16, 2017 by Manfred von Dreidecker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 16, 2017 #6 Share Posted March 16, 2017 he does have a point, by denying weapons to ukraine, he indirectly helps Putin to annex east Ukraine as well. i hope no one believes in that novorossia crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 16, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Why? what the frack does it have to do with an insane senile US Senator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 16, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just now, Manfred von Dreidecker said: Why? what the frack does it have to do with an insane senile US Senator? a lot actually. he is involved in Ukraine, as he was involved in Georgia when Russia invaded them years back. honestly i have no clue why he is involved, but he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 16, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, aztek said: a lot actually. he is involved in Ukraine, as he was involved in Georgia when Russia invaded them years back. honestly i have no clue why he is involved, but he is. Well exactly. Why's he got the right to be involved in Ukraine while Poot'n, who's right next to the country the Obama State Department destablized with their coup, and which has (in the eastern part certainly) a large pro-Russian population, doesn't? What exactly does the US have to do with what might go on in Ukraine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 16, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) you really do not think maidan was not without our involvement? my guess mc cain is a bad news for ukraine, it is another proxy war. Edited March 16, 2017 by aztek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 16, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Lilly said: Oh for the sake of....seriously? I mean, is screaming: "You're in league with the Russians" now the default position for dealing with anyone you disagree with? Well, "you're racist" can't be used anymore seeing as Trump's orange white. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted March 17, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Crony capitalism needs an enemy. In these strange times one enemy isn't nearly enough. It can't just be Radical Islamic Terrorists or Illegal Immigrant Mexicans. We need Communist Russian Hackers too. Not that McCain ever had a good thought about Ukraine, but after proving we care so much about Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria, don't we care about Ukraine? Why is Ukraine the exception to the rule, and any interference is wrong? It's because Russia is powerful enough that we can't go bully it like another weak country. A bully is someone who wants to fight someone who doesn't want to fight him. "Go find someone who wants to fight you." is the best advice for any bully one can give. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted March 17, 2017 Author #13 Share Posted March 17, 2017 16 hours ago, aztek said: whoever made video made sure the subject is not mentioned, i'm pretty sure he was talking about Ukraine, mc cain wants to give weapons to Ukraine to fight Russians in Donetsk lugansk. i do not think it will lead to ww3, but it can lead to a lot more Ukrainians dead. regardless what is done or not, Ukraine will have this war for years, it would not happen if they did not get rid of nukes in 1991. It was about extending NATO to some small country on Russia's boarder. They definitely would have seen it as a attack of aggression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 17, 2017 #14 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: It was about extending NATO to some small country on Russia's boarder. They definitely would have seen it as a attack of aggression. lol, russia is waging war in that small country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 17, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 17, 2017 What small country is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 17, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Putin admits Russian military presence in Ukraine for first time. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/vladimir-putin-admits-russian-military-presence-ukraine Edited March 17, 2017 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted March 17, 2017 #17 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: What small country is that you're talking about that the vile supervillain has invaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted March 17, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 17, 2017 11 hours ago, preacherman76 said: It was about extending NATO to some small country on Russia's boarder. They definitely would have seen it as a attack of aggression. It was about Montenegro. McCain evidently thinks that it's vital for that country to become the latest member of a group that's a provocative vestige of the Cold War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted March 17, 2017 #19 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: What small country is that? McCain wants Montenegro to join NATO. Paul opposes its membership, which means that he's a communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 18, 2017 #20 Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 3:55 PM, Manfred von Dreidecker said: I'm afraid old McCain has been genuinely certifiably insane for years. Remember that he stood for President in '08. Perhaps there was something to be grateful for Obama about after all. I can't believe it, but I actually have to agree with this. I never thought I'd ever agree on anything positive coming from the election of that manchild but this is true. McCain is certifiable. We dodged a bullet when he lost in '08. I didn't vote for McCain but I also didn't understand what a warmonger he really is. The guy is actually scary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted March 18, 2017 #21 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Maybe we should figure out who isn't in collusion with the Russians. Do we have multiple Russian agencies with their own under cover operatives totally unaware of the others and they're interfering with each other? This makes The Amerikans look tame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 18, 2017 #22 Share Posted March 18, 2017 1 minute ago, RavenHawk said: Maybe we should figure out who isn't in collusion with the Russians. Do we have multiple Russian agencies with their own under cover operatives totally unaware of the others and they're interfering with each other? This makes The Amerikans look tame. I believe that the Russians (and Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis,etc.) always try to influence our elections. We DEFINITELY attempt to influence theirs, but the current situation is nothing but political cover for a silent, soft, coup attempt. The ptb don't want an outsider that they didn't anoint and they're doing everything short of assassination to either remove him or neuter him. The Congress - both houses - are corrupt and self-interested to the point of being useless. The health care bill is proof. It's just Obamacare light and they won't put up a true repeal vote because even though there are 52 Republicans in the Senate, they don't have 51 or even 50 votes. The president should begin to talk to these clowns about there being worse things than working with him and being heroes at home. For example, he could tell them (in private) that instead of having political rallies in their states exposing their recalcitrance, he's going to rally their constituents for a Convention of States! NONE of them really want that outcome. It DEFINITELY would end with term limits of some sort. It's congressional kryptonite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolguy Posted March 18, 2017 #23 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This guy needs to retire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted March 18, 2017 #24 Share Posted March 18, 2017 That's an interesting thought. That Trump is trying to initiate a Convention of States? The way he seems to support Ryan's bill is if he is trying to get it to fail which would mean that Obamacare will collapse with no replacement and will embarrass Congress that the states takes over. And he can then begin to drain the swamp. It might not be that ominous, and he is just letting Ryan run with it to make him look like a fool, then he'll get all the GOP together to negotiate a proper replacement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted March 18, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 18, 2017 22 hours ago, and then said: I can't believe it, but I actually have to agree with this. I never thought I'd ever agree on anything positive coming from the election of that manchild but this is true. McCain is certifiable. We dodged a bullet when he lost in '08. I didn't vote for McCain but I also didn't understand what a warmonger he really is. The guy is actually scary. You lived and learned. Many people took the red pill after 9/11. I took mine during the second Iraq War. Many people saw through the neoconservatives at that time. They gave us unending war with all of its human and material loss. Trump saw the folly of that, which put him way ahead of Clinton in that category. We dodged a McCain bullet with her too. Sadly, Arizona's voters put the cocked, loaded gun back in the Senate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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