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Just now, MJNYC said:

He has my loyalty too and I voted for  him!  

I believe and hope that he will be a GREAT President.  :tu:

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If I was an American I would have voted for him -

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8 hours ago, bee said:

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this is getting off topic now -- but to clarify...briefly

I am not looking to Donald Trump to answer anything - 
I am not looking for anything definite just living my life -
I took an interest in the US election because it affects us all -
I didn't want Clinton to win because I'm disgusted at her warmongering ways and what she is responsible for in Libya especially -
I was also very concerned with what I considered her dangerous and disrespectful attitude towards Russia...

So by default I wanted Trump to win -
As the campaign got going I felt I was getting a handle on him as a person - and that he was ok -
I was annoyed at the way the media was totally against him and obviously biased -
Then he won even though he practically had the whole political and media establishment against him -

I am giving him a proper chance to see how he will do and at the same time I am annoyed at how he is attacked and insulted all the time -

So he does have my loyalty for now (for what that's worth... :) ) even though I'm over here in England -

I am taking a pragmatic approach to it all and unless he does something that I think is worse than what Clinton
would have done -- I will consider that he was the best option  -

 

Sorry if that was boring --- :D---- but I wanted to say it as I don't like to be misunderstood or misrepresented -


Normal  service can now resume --- 

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Thank you for sharing that bee - and as Iv'e mentioned before....your loyalty and unwavering belief in the man is admirable.

I think like any politician / leader tho....some folk are able to see through their bluff where other folk see things differently.

I guess that's why we have elections, where we get to have a voice, and for what it's worth, we hope we've chosen wisely.

Either way time eventually tells what he / she (the leader) is truly made of....but of course when it come to politics..there will always be disagreement.

Oh well, such is life... :)

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6 hours ago, MJNYC said:

Ryan is a snake in the grass.  He was going to throw the elderly under the bus and that was part of the problem with his healthcare plan.

Obamacare needs to be repealed and they should set rules (pre-existing,no cap) for the insurance companies.  Then leave it to the free market.

Those in need, should be covered via Medicaid.

Well I haven't really gone deeply into your healthcare plan MJ...as I'm not an American, and Australia's healthcare system is run differently to yours.  

What I and other folk here are more curious about (hence the OP's thread) is why did Donald Trump endorse Jeanine Pirro's programme by encouraging folk to watch it (through another one of his twitters) 11 hours before her show was aired ?

Now that simply tells me, that he must have known what she was going to say about Ryan...unless of course Trump is also clairvoyant :rolleyes:... 

#Just to add - they have both denied any type of communication in regards to this. Seriously, they must think that people are really, really stoopid!...and I see that Trump has again flip-flopped and has since buttered up to Ryan. Sheesh! talk about being two-faced. 

 

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10 hours ago, bee said:

I am giving him a proper chance to see how he will do and at the same time I am annoyed at how he is attacked and insulted all the time -

People like Trump who insult other people all the time shouldn't be immune to insult.

Trump and his admin should focus on two things  1. Telling the truth.  2. Cutting down on the insults and Tweets and especially the insults in Tweets.  He'd be a lot less vulnerable to attack all the time, despite the fact that his cabinet and Executive Orders almost universally stink.   Oil, war, banks and corporate bailouts?  

It's Globalismapolooza 2017. 

"Drain the Swamp!" my foot.  'Build more Swamp!" would have been accurate.

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Just now, MJNYC said:

Ryan is a snake in the grass.  He was going to throw the elderly under the bus and that was part of the problem with his healthcare plan.

Obamacare needs to be repealed and they should set rules (pre-existing,no cap) for the insurance companies.  Then leave it to the free market.

Those in need, should be covered via Medicaid.

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Re Paul Ryan -- I haven't taken much notice of him before but the other day in passing I caught a video clip
of him speaking and he had a look in his eyes - like he had an amusing secret and was laughing inside ---
it reminded me of Bill Clinton when he used to speak to audiences or the TV and he had that same glittering
look of laughter in his eyes - again like he had a secret that amused him --- 

I've been watching a bit of stuff about the Clintons lately to get a better handle on them and their past and it's all very
interesting -  specialist infiltrators would always aim for top of an organization to exert power and control  (and
cover up any misdeeds of those they were promoted and supported by) --   

But anyway --- having caught that same look in Ryan's eyes I wondered if he could actually be a democrat plant..?

So I just did a quick search and this came up -- you probably know all about his wife but I didn't and I had a 'ah ha' moment :) 
 

In other words could Ryan have secretly nobbled the Heathcare vote -- because that's his REAL job - for the Democrats
and the Council on Foreign Relations? - AND - does the Trump team and Jeanine Pirro know but have to tackle the problem
in a careful way... hence what's going on with the tweet... :wacko:...laying the ground to work towards ousting him..?

This is all speculation of course --- :) 

 

http://drrichswier.com/2016/05/18/mrs-janna-little-ryan-a-liberal-running-the-show-from-the-family-kitchen-table/

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Paul Ryan is married to Janna Little a liberal, left wing progressive, anti-Constitutional, big government George Soros supporter who voted for Barack Hussein Obama twice.

[snip]

So if you want to understand why Speaker Ryan funded Obamacare and Planned Parent Hood, I suggest you ask his wife. She is wearing the pants in the family metaphorically speaking. In my humble opinion.

If you want to know why Paul Ryan is using taxpayer money to fund 100,000 un-vetted Syrians for a free taxpayer funded ride in cities across the United States ask his wife…. the bleeding heart liberal that she is. She is pro-open borders.

Paul Ryan’s decisions and thought processes are a reflection of his spouse’s mindset. Mrs. Ryan is a life long Democrat who is pushing Obama’s agenda through her husband. And of course a happy life is a happy wife.

 

 

  

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3 minutes ago, bee said:

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Re Paul Ryan -- I haven't taken much notice of him before but the other day in passing I caught a video clip
of him speaking and he had a look in his eyes - like he had an amusing secret and was laughing inside ---
it reminded me of Bill Clinton when he used to speak to audiences or the TV and he had that same glittering
look of laughter in his eyes - again like he had a secret that amused him --- 

I've been watching a bit of stuff about the Clintons lately to get a better handle on them and their past and it's all very
interesting -  specialist infiltrators would always aim for top of an organization to exert power and control  (and
cover up any misdeeds of those they were promoted and supported by) --   

But anyway --- having caught that same look in Ryan's eyes I wondered if he could actually be a democrat plant..?

So I just did a quick search and this came up -- you probably know all about his wife but I didn't and I had a 'ah ha' moment :) 
 

In other words could Ryan have secretly nobbled the Heathcare vote -- because that's his REAL job - for the Democrats
and the Council on Foreign Relations? - AND - does the Trump team and Jeanine Pirro know but have to tackle the problem
in a careful way... hence what's going on with the tweets... :wacko:

This is all speculation of course --- :) 

 

http://drrichswier.com/2016/05/18/mrs-janna-little-ryan-a-liberal-running-the-show-from-the-family-kitchen-table/

 

 

Trump was a hillary supporter and a democrat. Kinda hard to go after someone else for their wife having the same background dont ya think? 

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Picture the scene at the Ryan's house ---

Janna ~"How did your day go darling?"

Paul ~ "Great, thank you darling,  I spent most of it trashing your political beliefs and associates -
how did your day go?"

Janna ~"Really well thank you darling - I spent most of it promoting and defending your political enemies." 

Paul ~ "That's nice - well done darling - - - anything good on the TV tonight?"

:innocent:

Me ~ no I don't think so....:rolleyes:....

More like --- "Are all the anti bugging devices on darling we have a lot to discuss and coordinate..."

:passifier:

SPECULATION..!!!

:whistle:

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2 minutes ago, bee said:

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Picture the scene at the Ryan's house ---

Janna ~"How did your day go darling?"

Paul ~ "Great, thank you darling,  I spent most of it trashing your political beliefs and associates -
how did your day go?"

Janna ~"Really well thank you darling - I spent most of it promoting and defending your political enemies." 

Paul ~ "That's nice - well done darling - - - anything good on the TV tonight?"

:innocent:

Me ~ no I don't think so....:rolleyes:....

More like --- "Are all the anti bugging devices on darling we have a lot to discuss and coordinate..."

:passifier:

SPECULATION..!!!

:whistle:

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Its so cute you believe the parties are actually different than each other. They're not , its not dems vs repubs its them vs the citizenry. 

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Just now, Farmer77 said:

Its so cute you believe the parties are actually different than each other. They're not , its not dems vs repubs its them vs the citizenry. 

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so you do agree that Paul Ryan is very likely to be a democrat plant and he and his wife work together - 

cheers for the feedback -- :)   

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Just now, bee said:

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so you do agree that Paul Ryan is very likely to be a democrat plant and he and his wife work together - 

cheers for the feedback -- :)   

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Hell from that standpoint then trump himself is a democrat plant and um yeah i guess I do agree 

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1 hour ago, bee said:

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Re Paul Ryan -- I haven't taken much notice of him before but the other day in passing I caught a video clip
of him speaking and he had a look in his eyes - like he had an amusing secret and was laughing inside ---


it reminded me of Bill Clinton when he used to speak to audiences or the TV and he had that same glittering
look of laughter in his eyes - again like he had a secret that amused him --- 

I've been watching a bit of stuff about the Clintons lately to get a better handle on them and their past and it's all very
interesting -  specialist infiltrators would always aim for top of an organization to exert power and control  (and
cover up any misdeeds of those they were promoted and supported by) --   

But anyway --- having caught that same look in Ryan's eyes I wondered if he could actually be a democrat plant..?

So I just did a quick search and this came up -- you probably know all about his wife but I didn't and I had a 'ah ha' moment :) 
 

In other words could Ryan have secretly nobbled the Heathcare vote -- because that's his REAL job - for the Democrats
and the Council on Foreign Relations? - AND - does the Trump team and Jeanine Pirro know but have to tackle the problem
in a careful way... hence what's going on with the tweet... :wacko:...laying the ground to work towards ousting him..?

This is all speculation of course --- :) 

 

http://drrichswier.com/2016/05/18/mrs-janna-little-ryan-a-liberal-running-the-show-from-the-family-kitchen-table/

Bolded: Yes i have also noticed the mocking demeanour of Paul Ryan. Smug and overly self assured. No tears lost on that one.  

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24 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Its so cute you believe the parties are actually different than each other. They're not , its not dems vs repubs its them vs the citizenry. 

...how true. before they come to power they all promise so much and once in power they're all the same and serve their own interests. 

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Just now, Farmer77 said:

Hell from that standpoint then trump himself is a democrat plant and um yeah i guess I do agree 

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LOL Trump really a democrat president ....?

have a heart saying things like that ---

do you want to make the millenials and snowflake's heads explode -

and all the poor indoctrinated suckers  go into meltdown -

edit to add -- to clarify - the indoctrinated suckers are those who are
easily manipulated by the Mind Control Media - and fake stories -
twisted truth stories etc.

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"Now that simply tells me, that he must have known what she was going to say about Ryan...unless of course Trump is also clairvoyant :rolleyes:... "

OR....he just likes Judge Jeanine and her show and gave her a shout out. I seriously doubt that with everything the POTUS has to deal with on a daily basis he has time to add reading or reviewing a cable opinion shows opening statement, even if he could get it before the live airing.

As for Ryan and his wife...most of my extended family, cousins, etc are Dems and we manage to have long civilized discussions about a myriad of political topics....but for the most part we have much more important things to talk about. I bet the Ryans do too.

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45 minutes ago, skliss said:

OR....he just likes Judge Jeanine and her show and gave her a shout out. 

 That's one of the best excuses Iv'e heard so far  :rofl:

45 minutes ago, skliss said:

I seriously doubt that with everything the POTUS has to deal with on a daily basis he has time to add reading or reviewing a cable opinion shows opening statement...[*]

Sorry, but he seems to find plenty of time to tweet in his busy schedule... which IMO is half the man's problem.

45 minutes ago, skliss said:

As for Ryan and his wife...most of my extended family, cousins, etc are Dems and we manage to have long civilized discussions about a myriad of political topics....but for the most part we have much more important things to talk about. I bet the Ryans do too.

Well, I don't recall mentioning anything about Ryan's wife. You might have me mixed up with somebody else..possibly bee ?

I was also wondering skliss...are you having problems with the 'Quote button' as to quote someones post ?

I only ask, because it's easier for the person (to whom you are quoting) to be properly notified, otherwise it may be easily missed.

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On 3/26/2017 at 9:02 AM, skliss said:

All I saw was Trump saying how great Ryan was and how hard he worked.

Yeah I saw him say that too, just before he tweeted to watch Judge Jeannine on Fox bashing Ryan!  

Trump needs a little sign on his desk, the buck stops here, not the thought that of HE fails it's always someone else's fault. 

 

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Ryan is definitely a plant. I believed that long before Trump had a dog in the fight. 

They guy never seemed to disagree or oppose anything Obama wanted to do. 

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10 hours ago, Astra. said:

 That's one of the best excuses Iv'e heard so far  :rofl:

Sorry, but he seems to find plenty of time to tweet in his busy schedule... which IMO is half the man's problem.

Well, I don't recall mentioning anything about Ryan's wife. You might have me mixed up with somebody else..possibly bee ?

I was also wondering skliss...are you having problems with the 'Quote button' as to quote someones post ?

I only ask, because it's easier for the person (to whom you are quoting) to be properly notified, otherwise it may be easily missed.

I was answering several things at once, hence the ryan/wife comment.

I don't use the quote button if I'm only answering one sentence in the whole post. I see what you are saying tho about notification, I was just thinking it easier to copy and paste the sentence I was addressing than quoting and deleting the whole rest of the quoted post.

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58 minutes ago, skliss said:

I was answering several things at once, hence the ryan/wife comment.

I don't use the quote button if I'm only answering one sentence in the whole post. I see what you are saying tho about notification, I was just thinking it easier to copy and paste the sentence I was addressing than quoting and deleting the whole rest of the quoted post.

If you highlight the sentence you want to quote a pop up will appear that says quote this, click it and it will inject just that sentence it into your post and the person youre quoting will be notified. 

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1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

If you highlight the sentence you want to quote a pop up will appear that says quote this, click it and it will inject just that sentence it into your post and the person youre quoting will be notified. 

I don't think I've seen that box but will look for it now..thanks!

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8 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

Ryan is definitely a plant. I believed that long before Trump had a dog in the fight. 

The guy never seemed to disagree or oppose anything Obama wanted to do. 

Then so are all the other RINOs e.g. those who voted for the Obama-Boehner budgets.    We are misled to fight about partisan politics for many reasons, another one is that at the end of the day all the D and R rats do is compromise with each other about who to spend our money on, and then they promptly go spend it all plus another ~trillion dollars they're not honest enough to raise taxes for that the kids will pay back later plus interest.  

Donald Trump is now openly proclaiming his desire to work with Democrats and the bipartisan establishment remains as important as it ever was.  Making Paul Ryan his fall guy isn't going to accomplish much other than someone else to blame.   You can then make the fall guy into a D plant, it doesn't mean much either when Trump is appealing to the Ds who wear the letter.

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On 3/26/2017 at 0:40 AM, .ZZ. said:

No loss there.

When I watched him make his "concession speech" after they pulled the health care bill he repeated:

"We really came close" FIVE times in that short, painful, losing statement.  He is a loser anyway.

 

My respect for Ryan is gone.  I was never really a fanboy of his but I did assume he was a truth teller.  Even a popular president doesn't have the "juice" to remove a Speaker of the House, though.  He can trash talk all he wants but it's the members of the House that decide that issue.  As I recall, they had to beg the guy to take the job.  He was either in charge of or nearly so, of the House Ways and Means committee.  That's arguably the hottest job in D.C., other than being president.  I heard a suggestion today on a radio program that made a lot of sense to me.  The guy suggested submitting a bill that put a time limit on negotiating the ACA.  If the Democrats chose to ignore it or to try to delay it, they'd be responsible for the collapse of Obamacare.  IOW, the bill would set a time limit before an automatic repeal.  Put the ball in the Dem's court to see if they are serious about making positive changes in the ACA.  The Obycare timebomb is ticking down anyway - just as the creators knew it would.  It was just a step along the road to single-payer.  Health care costs are unsupportable going forward and a well-reasoned plan to keep the best possible version of health care in the U.S. is essential.  I think it will eventually follow a Darwinian path.  Two tiers.  The wealthy will have the best, everyone else will be treated by nurse practitioners or physician assistants.  Don't misunderstand this comment as an insult to either of those groups of professionals.  NPs and PAs who work in a single setting for years will be at least as good as MDs doing the same work.  The only problem will be with those who've just finished their all too brief schooling or for those patients who have a condition that presents so subtly that only a very well educated MD or well experience non-MD would catch it.  The bottom line is that medicine is just too expensive in our uber-litigious culture.  GOOD physicians can be ruined by a missed diagnosis and that means that they will use EVERY type of test or imaging available to them.  Some lab tests in a cardio workup can cost thousands of dollars.  MRI is typically two grand, minimum.  THAT is just the cost of creating the image, it still has to be interpreted (for a small fee) by a Radiologist.  Take away the legal threat except for obvious malpractice and billions could be saved.  That wouldn't solve the problem but it would go a long way toward mitigating some of the more egregious problems in the system.  I'd like to see an opportunity created by the government to educate (free of "charge") deserving, top-flight minds in our public schools.  They would repay one for one every year of education they received.  After that, they could remain in the government track or go to a fee for service system.  That would cost the government (us) about a quarter million dollars for a qualified MD or about half that for a qualified NP or PA.  They'd have to agree to work for whatever the government rate was at that time for the years they owed, but it would still be a huge benefit for the nation and for the individuals - who probably could never have afforded the education on their own.  We can get honest and creative or we can just let the whole thing collapse under its own corruption.  The clock is ticking.

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On 3/28/2017 at 4:08 AM, bee said:

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Re Paul Ryan -- I haven't taken much notice of him before but the other day in passing I caught a video clip
of him speaking and he had a look in his eyes - like he had an amusing secret and was laughing inside ---
it reminded me of Bill Clinton when he used to speak to audiences or the TV and he had that same glittering
look of laughter in his eyes - again like he had a secret that amused him --- 

I've been watching a bit of stuff about the Clintons lately to get a better handle on them and their past and it's all very
interesting -  specialist infiltrators would always aim for top of an organization to exert power and control  (and
cover up any misdeeds of those they were promoted and supported by) --   

But anyway --- having caught that same look in Ryan's eyes I wondered if he could actually be a democrat plant..?

So I just did a quick search and this came up -- you probably know all about his wife but I didn't and I had a 'ah ha' moment :) 
 

In other words could Ryan have secretly nobbled the Heathcare vote -- because that's his REAL job - for the Democrats
and the Council on Foreign Relations? - AND - does the Trump team and Jeanine Pirro know but have to tackle the problem
in a careful way... hence what's going on with the tweet... :wacko:...laying the ground to work towards ousting him..?

This is all speculation of course --- :) 

 

http://drrichswier.com/2016/05/18/mrs-janna-little-ryan-a-liberal-running-the-show-from-the-family-kitchen-table/

Yes, Ryan's wife is a Democrat and I just cannot believe that Ryan is a good guy.  You are correct about that look in his eye.  He knows a lot more than he lets on and it's not good stuff.  

I think he knew about Trump being spied on.  I have no proof, but it's just a feeling I have.

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On 3/27/2017 at 7:26 PM, Astra. said:

Well I haven't really gone deeply into your healthcare plan MJ...as I'm not an American, and Australia's healthcare system is run differently to yours.  

What I and other folk here are more curious about (hence the OP's thread) is why did Donald Trump endorse Jeanine Pirro's programme by encouraging folk to watch it (through another one of his twitters) 11 hours before her show was aired ?

Now that simply tells me, that he must have known what she was going to say about Ryan...unless of course Trump is also clairvoyant :rolleyes:... 

#Just to add - they have both denied any type of communication in regards to this. Seriously, they must think that people are really, really stoopid!...and I see that Trump has again flip-flopped and has since buttered up to Ryan. Sheesh! talk about being two-faced. 

 

President Trump is not a dumb man, in fact, he's a very smart man.  

He and Jeanine Pirro are friends and have been for a long time.  Having said that, I really doubt that Judge Jeanine told him everything she was going to say on her show.  Truly doubt it.

But, maybe our President knows what we all suspect about Ryan.  Works for me since I don't trust Ryan and do trust Trump. :tu:

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On 3/27/2017 at 3:51 PM, bee said:

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If I was an American I would have voted for him -

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Thank you :)

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