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President Trump used Twitter to get people to watch a show that called for Paul Ryan to be sacked

 

 

PRESIDENT Donald Trump tweeted for his followers to watch a Fox News show. Its presenter called for a top Republican official to be sacked. Is this execution via Trump tweet? 

President Trump had placed his faith in Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan to build a workable replacement for ‘Obamacare’, the national health insurance plan that has been in Republican sights since its inception.

He had just one job to do.

Read More:  http://www.news.com.au/world/president-trump-used-twitter-to-get-people-to-watch-a-show-that-called-for-paul-ryan-to-be-sacked/news-story/55806dddcc6b7c107180ee38fd72b0ab

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Just now, Captain Risky said:

President Trump used Twitter to get people to watch a show that called for Paul Ryan to be sacked

 

 

PRESIDENT Donald Trump tweeted for his followers to watch a Fox News show. Its presenter called for a top Republican official to be sacked. Is this execution via Trump tweet? 

President Trump had placed his faith in Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan to build a workable replacement for ‘Obamacare’, the national health insurance plan that has been in Republican sights since its inception.

He had just one job to do.

Read More:  http://www.news.com.au/world/president-trump-used-twitter-to-get-people-to-watch-a-show-that-called-for-paul-ryan-to-be-sacked/news-story/55806dddcc6b7c107180ee38fd72b0ab

Supposedly Bannon wanted an "enemies list" of repubs who didnt support the bill, this I suppose is its natural evolution. 

So this is a little off topic but with the way Trump is promoting fox if I were an enterprising democrat lawyer I would be working my butt off to find a monetary connection between Trump and the network. 

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No loss there.

When I watched him make his "concession speech" after they pulled the health care bill he repeated:

"We really came close" FIVE times in that short, painful, losing statement.  He is a loser anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Supposedly Bannon wanted an "enemies list" of repubs who didnt support the bill, this I suppose is its natural evolution. 

So this is a little off topic but with the way Trump is promoting fox if I were an enterprising democrat lawyer I would be working my butt off to find a monetary connection between Trump and the network. 

Enemy list? Mate Trump's biggest problem seems to be his own republican party. So you really think there is a monetary connection between FOX and the president? Maybe...

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Enemy list? Mate Trump's biggest problem seems to be his own republican party. So you really think there is a monetary connection between FOX and the president? Maybe...

Its the republicans he was wanting Trump to make a list of!!! CNN is reporting that Trump is looking for a scapegoat so I imagine Ryan will go. 

I dont really think Trump is pushing fox for financial reasons but if there is a connection through his many companies - heck maybe even one Trump is unaware of - then between Twitter and his press conferences there is plenty of evidence to begin impeachment proceedings. 

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Is it normal to remove a speaker of the house because the vote didn't go the right way?

That's an odd incentive for democratic process... I'm even going to go as far as saying that could encourage corrupt behavior.

I don't see how a Political commentator would come to that conclusion.

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I think this might also go back to when Paul Ryan was hesitant to endorse Trump earlier last year. Things apparently panned out ok between them, but Trump isn't the sort of person who would forget easily, and no doubt still holds a certain grudge. 

With that in mind, he has now blamed Ryan, and has used him as the scapegoat. This is typical Trump fashion, because as soon as something doesn't go his way...he needs to blame and condemn someone else for it.

At first he blamed the Dem's...now it's Ryan.

Jeanine Pirro has a tongue with a razor tip....and it's obvious that Trump used this banshee to discredit Ryan in front of millions of viewers. How cowardly of Donald Trump to handle things in this type of dishonest and underhanded way.

She (Pirro) mentioned that she did not speak to Trump before this was aired ?... well I certainly do not believe that.

Trumps own tweet gave him away....

@ Just to add...in hindsight Ryan should have declined the position, it would have been a much wiser choice.

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57 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Is it normal to remove a speaker of the house because the vote didn't go the right way?

That's an odd incentive for democratic process... I'm even going to go as far as saying that could encourage corrupt behavior.

I don't see how a Political commentator would come to that conclusion.

Who would want the job if they do that to him?  However, it did occur to me that after a decent interval he might resign -- he never wanted it in the first place and took it only out of loyalty to the party.  If now he is to be treated disloyally, if I were him I'd tell them to shove it.

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2 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Its the republicans he was wanting Trump to make a list of!!! CNN is reporting that Trump is looking for a scapegoat so I imagine Ryan will go. 

I dont really think Trump is pushing fox for financial reasons but if there is a connection through his many companies - heck maybe even one Trump is unaware of - then between Twitter and his press conferences there is plenty of evidence to begin impeachment proceedings. 

The monetary connection is that FOX depends on the Trump die-hards for its audience.

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Just now, Likely Guy said:

This just gets weirder and weirder :huh:

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Only if you are vulnerable to getting sucked up into the Mind Control Media's game......

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Just now, bee said:

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Only if you are vulnerable to getting sucked up into the Mind Control Media's game......

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Come on Bee. Even if you love Trump and think his ideas are the greatest thing since sliced bread you have to admit he, his administrations and their actions are flat out weird. 

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Is it normal to remove a speaker of the house because the vote didn't go the right way?

No. We don't have a parliamentary system. Trump is the head of government (as well as head of state), not Ryan, nor does Ryan "work for" Trump. Ryan holds his office because the House elected him (realistically, his own party elected him, and they are the majority in the House; the vote for Speaker is one of the few things where "party discipline" is regularly enforced effectively).

In principle, disaffected members of the House could remove him (and his ordinary term ends in 2019 anyway). He could resign, perhaps reasoning that if he can't do the job (and he couldn't, that's the fact of the matter, regardless of what one thinks about the "merits" of AHCA), then he should step down. However, that's the rub in our not having a parliamentary system: his stepping down won't change the composition of the House (no new election until 2018, when that will occur anyway). His successor wouldn't necessarily be any better able to manage the House than Ryan is.


On another point, I did LOL at encouraging corrupt behavior. Our representatives need no encouragement, thank you. They're corrupt enough as it is :) .

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Just now, bee said:

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Only if you are vulnerable to getting sucked up into the Mind Control Media's game......

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just to add.... 

and unless you are at the top of the food chain in the Mind Control Media organizations -

anyone aiding and abetting the twisting of facts and dissemination of propaganda (knowingly or unknowingly) 

is contributing to their own downfall - :hmm:

you have been warned.... :yes:

 

*and that was a Public Service Announcement* ----- :whistle:

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16 hours ago, eight bits said:

Kismit

No. We don't have a parliamentary system. Trump is the head of government (as well as head of state), not Ryan, nor does Ryan "work for" Trump. Ryan holds his office because the House elected him (realistically, his own party elected him, and they are the majority in the House; the vote for Speaker is one of the few things where "party discipline" is regularly enforced effectively).

In principle, disaffected members of the House could remove him (and his ordinary term ends in 2019 anyway). He could resign, perhaps reasoning that if he can't do the job (and he couldn't, that's the fact of the matter, regardless of what one thinks about the "merits" of AHCA), then he should step down. However, that's the rub in our not having a parliamentary system: his stepping down won't change the composition of the House (no new election until 2018, when that will occur anyway). His successor wouldn't necessarily be any better able to manage the House than Ryan is.


On another point, I did LOL at encouraging corrupt behavior. Our representatives need no encouragement, thank you. They're corrupt enough as it is :) .

I kind of figured that's what the speaker of the house was. It's the same here.

But they are not held accountable for vote numbers.  It seems odd that the political commentator would suggest it.

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25 minutes ago, bee said:

Only if you are vulnerable to getting sucked up into the Mind Control Media's game......

Until now, at least 3 big cakes (with candles) smashed into his face and thats not "Mind Control Media" (whatever that should mean) stuff, it can be read on the HP of the WH. In addition, an uncounted and increasing number of cakes is still orbiting him on unstable trajectories, so watch the Cake-O-Meter on a regular basis because its fun somehow.

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5 minutes ago, bee said:

.Only if you are vulnerable to getting sucked up into the Mind Control Media's game......

Bee, that spit-fire dragon (Jeanine Pirro) is also part of the 'mind control' media too, isn't she ?

So are you saying - not to believe her vicious and scathing attack on Paul Ryan that was allowed to be aired to millions of viewers? 

Here is Trumps tweet....

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Eleven hours later, came this.....

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Astra. said:

Bee, that spit-fire dragon (Jeanine Pirro) is also part of the 'mind control' media too, isn't she ?

So are you saying - not to believe her vicious and scathing attack on Paul Ryan that was allowed to be aired to millions of viewers? 

Here is Trumps tweet....

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Eleven hours later, came this.....

 

 

I hate that I gave her a click on youtube but id never heard her before.......Man IDK if there is anyone as annoying as this chick outside of Nancy Grace. 

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It seems odd that the political commentator would suggest it.

This has been a very odd eighteen months or so, in many ways.

However, in one of his earler careers, Trump hosted a "reality" program on TV, where his tag line at the end of each show was "you're fired." I think that might explain some of the commentary, an "inside joke."

ETA: Just to inject a slightly more positive note: it isn't unusual for Presidents to lack personal Congressional leadership experience. A readily available option is to get a senior staffer on board who does have that experience (the President does hire and fire White House staff, and they do work for him). Whatever I might think of Newt Gingrich personally (and it is a family forum ... ), he is a former Speaker, the "Freedom Caucus" probably loves him, and he's been a choirboy for the Trump agenda.

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I imagine there are people who will even find a way to excuse this childishness.  Trump does not elect the Speaker -- he is not King yet -- and it was far more his fault than Ryan's that the whole thing happened.  He has so soured the Democrats with his lies and put-downs and insults and petty humiliations that he can't expect any cooperation from them on anything short of a national disaster, and the Republicans are fractured.

Next up is a tax cut bill.  One has to wonder how they imagine they can put that together without Democrat participation, and they ain't gonna get it unless Trump changes -- and it doesn't seem he has the brains to see that.

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17 minutes ago, eight bits said:

Kismit

This has been a very odd eighteen months or so, in many ways.

However, in one of his earler careers, Trump hosted a "reality" program on TV, where his tag line at the end of each show was "you're fired." I think that might explain some of the commentary, an "inside joke."

Except it ain't funny, unless you like sick jokes.

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Just now, Astra. said:

Bee, that spit-fire dragon (Jeanine Pirro) is also part of the 'mind control' media too, isn't she ?

So are you saying - not to believe her vicious and scathing attack on Paul Ryan that was allowed to be aired to millions of viewers? 

 

 

No I don't believe she is --- I don't know the ongoing minute details of the Obamacare battle and I doubt that you do -

we outside the US don't pay for it so aren't affected by it on a day to day basis - 
as a side observation - interesting to see how many non Americans are banging away against Trump on this thread..
and one person who claims to be American but doesn't live there - 

(and, as another matter of interest who owns and controls news . com. au where the OP article cam from..?  
you Australians and New Zealanders might know)

One comment I have about Obamacare in general is ... what a cheek to name it after yourself - like Obama Cares -
a fine bit of Perception Management from those who groomed, supported and controlled Obama himself... IMO...

Trump has upset the apple cart -- perhaps Jeanine Pirro is right about Paul Ryan - perhaps DJT is finding out
the hard way who he can and can't trust - some of his enemies are going to be deeply embedded infiltrators - 

like I said ---- you have been warned --  

the noose against free thought and opinion is tightening - how long before Jeanine Pirro is downgraded on youtube..?
She may be too influential at the moment - but if the Mind Control political elite get their way - her time will come -

youtube is getting the treatment and those who want to control all information are slowly shutting down anything and
anyone who stands in their way -- by stealth - 
 


 

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2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

I hate that I gave her a click on youtube but id never heard her before.......Man IDK if there is anyone as annoying as this chick outside of Nancy Grace. 

Yes, she's a tough old bird. She's an avid Donald Trump supporter. Even so, I think it's disgraceful that he used her to attack Ryan in the way she did. If Trump had an underlying and simmering beef with Ryan, (as in blaming him for the healthcare bill not being passed), then he should have taken him behind closed doors to address it.....and NOT use one of his favourite media shills to do it for him.

What a gutless thing for a man in his position to do....seriously, if it's anyone that needs to step down...it's Trump. The man is destructive...that's all there is to it.

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I guess since I'm giving the Trump administration unsolicited advice, in for a penny, in for a pound.

Once upon a time, there was a complete outsider business leader who ran for President, and attracted a substantial minority of the popular vote. His name was Ross Perot, founder of a computer services corporation. His corporation was bought up by General Motors (I have no idea why), and as part of the deal, Perot got a seat on the GM board of directors. He had zero experience in carmaking.

American cars were lousy in those days, and GM cars were the leaders in the race to the bottom. Perot had a suggestion about turning that around. Pick one thing in the car, any one thing, maybe the cigarette lighter. Starting this model year, make GM cars the best in the world in cigarette lighters. Next year, pick something else and be best in the world in that, too. But right here, right now, win something.

Next up for Trump is a tax bill (which in our system must begin in the House, Mr Ryan's arena), with the theme of reducing taxes. OK, one of the most visible features of Obamacare is the "shared responsibility payment" which, at least to the Supreme Court's satisfaction is a tax, and it is collected by the IRS simultaneously with the federal income tax.

Don't even repeal the SRP, roll the rates back to the first year's level and freeze them there. I think it was something like 1% of income (provided that you earned at least $10,000, which is the threshhold for paying any federal income tax, approximately).

This a guaranteed smart move. If it passes, you've have done something (since when has good or bad mattered in politics?). If it doesn't pass, if you can't "repeal and replace" even that one, least popular, element of Obamacare, then face it, this is God's way of telling you that you're not up for the job. Go play golf or something.

 

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5 hours ago, .ZZ. said:

No loss there.

When I watched him make his "concession speech" after they pulled the health care bill he repeated:

"We really came close" FIVE times in that short, painful, losing statement.  He is a loser anyway.

The Bill is the loser, ZZ.   The Bill.   Can't believe we're spinning that Ryan is the loser instead.  Guess that's what you believe after you watch Trump-approved TV.  

The House rejected the govt cake with even more socialist icing on it.    Thank God.   What do we call Trump for wanting to shove this pile down our throats?  The govt wants so badly to "improve our lives".  Oh the benevolent angels from govt!   They care about you and I, and they're here to help, right?   If Ronald Reagan could only come back from the dead and save us from these socialistic central planning ghouls!  

Sock it to the old and the poor, pile on even more for the insurance companies, then say you accomplished something!    Donald Trump would be in even more trouble right now if it did pass.   If it passed the Senate and he put his signature on it, it'd officially become Trumpcare.  His one-term legacy would be secured.

But no it's back to the drawing board!   Does a successful businessman turned President have even a clue of repealing Obamacare and replacing it with real market competition guaranteed to lower prices?  Nope. He really liked the bill that failed.  It's not what candidate Trump promised.   Blaming Ryan for failing to pass a bad bill proves Trump is a big problem.  I see no reason why he won't continue to influence more terrible changes to a health care system that's already failing on all fronts.   If people really wind up pouring their life savings into this deadly industry in the hopes of surviving, I feel sorry for them. 

President Trump should be criticizing the Congress for not producing a much better reform after they've had years to come up with one.   Watching TV shows about replacing Paul Ryan so miss the point!

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