Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 #1 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Discuss whether one or the other is real, if both are real or if both are just another lie told to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted April 26, 2017 #2 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, DragonReasearch said: Discuss whether one or the other is real, if both are real or if both are just another lie told to us. Why? Do you not have an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, keithisco said: Why? Do you not have an opinion? i say both are real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 26, 2017 #4 Share Posted April 26, 2017 One is real the other is theoretical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 Author #5 Share Posted April 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, XenoFish said: One is real the other is theoretical. True. One defies the laws of physics but in a way so does the other. one :"destroys" matter and the other "creates" matter. plus, I've seen somewhere on a science TV show channel (forgot the name) that scientist "accidentally" found one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Unicorn Posted April 26, 2017 #6 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DragonReasearch said: True. One defies the laws of physics but in a way so does the other. one :"destroys" matter and the other "creates" matter. plus, I've seen somewhere on a science TV show channel (forgot the name) that scientist "accidentally" found one I believe that energy is never destroyed it just changes. Logically, I assume that both black holes and white holes exist if the other one exists. I assume parallels in time and space exist, black hole in one universe is a white hole to a parallel universe. The circle of creation and destruction of matter. I also tend to believe that they exist in the smaller atomic worlds as well as at the cosmic levels. The hermetic philosophy of as above so below, has meaning to me. Edited April 26, 2017 by White Unicorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 26, 2017 #7 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It is even possible that our universe exist inside a black hole. Let that sink in while thinking about the "big bang". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 Author #8 Share Posted April 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, White Unicorn said: I believe that energy is never destroyed it just changes. Logically, I assume that both black holes and white holes exist if the other one exists. I assume parallels in time and space exist, black hole in one universe is a white hole to a parallel universe. The circle of creation and destruction of matter. I also tend to believe that they exist in the smaller atomic worlds as well as at the cosmic levels. The hermetic philosophy of as above so below, has meaning to me. interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 Author #9 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, XenoFish said: It is even possible that our universe exist inside a black hole. Let that sink in while thinking about the "big bang". that's pretty much what a universe is isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 26, 2017 #10 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, DragonReasearch said: that's pretty much what a universe is isn't it? That depends on who you ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted April 26, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: That depends on who you ask. true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted April 30, 2017 #12 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 26/4/2017 at 1:02 PM, DragonReasearch said: Discuss whether one or the other is real, if both are real or if both are just another lie told to us. What is it, a school test? "Discuss"? Where has the old habits gone, like "Hi, my name is DragonResearch, I'm interested in white and black holes and I'd like to know more on this topic. I'm interested in knowing your point of view and I'd like to share thoughs with you guys"? Wtf is wrong with the new generations? Why should what exactly be a lie and who should be telling us such aforementioned lie according to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted April 30, 2017 #13 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 26/4/2017 at 1:14 PM, XenoFish said: One is real the other is theoretical. To be fair they are both theoretical. Black holes should be real, but we never observed them (not directly, nor inderectly). So far we only inferred their existence and we had the real first proof that they exist last summer, when we detected for the first time a gravitational wave, caused by two merging black holes. As far as white holes go, we haven't found trace of their existence yet. And they are a theoretical consequence of the black ones. So, if black holes could exist without white holes, we can't say the same viceversa (at least not if we consider only our known universe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 30, 2017 #14 Share Posted April 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Parsec said: Black holes should be real, but we never observed them (not directly, nor inderectly). So far we only inferred their existence and we had the real first proof that they exist last summer, when we detected for the first time a gravitational wave, caused by two merging black holes. https://spaceinvader.me/2017/01/08/astronomers-confirm-black-hole-discovery/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted May 1, 2017 #15 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 27/04/2017 at 1:13 AM, XenoFish said: It is even possible that our universe exist inside a black hole. Let that sink in while thinking about the "big bang". Ahhh yes, of course. There must of been the "big suck". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsec Posted May 1, 2017 #16 Share Posted May 1, 2017 10 hours ago, XenoFish said: https://spaceinvader.me/2017/01/08/astronomers-confirm-black-hole-discovery/ I don't get what you mean. Are you corroborating or confuting me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Research Posted May 1, 2017 Author #17 Share Posted May 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Parsec said: What is it, a school test? "Discuss"? Where has the old habits gone, like "Hi, my name is DragonResearch, I'm interested in white and black holes and I'd like to know more on this topic. I'm interested in knowing your point of view and I'd like to share thoughs with you guys"? Wtf is wrong with the new generations? Why should what exactly be a lie and who should be telling us such aforementioned lie according to you? no need to snap :/ and you confused me with the last question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Narcisse Posted May 1, 2017 #18 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Who cares? It's all pink on the inside! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted May 1, 2017 #19 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Parsec said: I don't get what you mean. Are you corroborating or confuting me? Providing information is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted May 17, 2017 #20 Share Posted May 17, 2017 we might be living in a normal universe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma_Acid Posted May 23, 2017 #21 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 4/26/2017 at 1:02 PM, DragonReasearch said: Discuss whether one or the other is real, if both are real or if both are just another lie told to us. "Another lie" - what other astronomical lies have you been told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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