Mr Walker Posted June 2, 2017 #326 Share Posted June 2, 2017 12 hours ago, Mystic Crusader said: One of the darkest. Highest poverty rates, idolizers of the nihilistic gang lifestyle, the worst tyrants. And so, in what period of previous history would you prefer to live, and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenWolf Posted June 2, 2017 #327 Share Posted June 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: And so, in what period of previous history would you prefer to live, and why? Strictly from a point of morality, before the fourth dynasty of Egypt, before the rise of the Abrahamic religions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizno Posted June 2, 2017 #328 Share Posted June 2, 2017 12 hours ago, Mystic Crusader said: Strictly from a point of morality, before the fourth dynasty of Egypt, before the rise of the Abrahamic religions. Warfare and slavery were common during that time as during just about every time before the present. I have yet to hear of any period in human history when war wasn't rampant. Right now is the least warlike time in all of human history. Violent crime, at least in the US, has been going down for decades. Abortion rates have been steadily going down for decades, because of education and birth control, except in Southern states, which still have high abortion rates because of "abstinence only" education (a proven failure) and difficulty finding information about birth control, all caused by Christian extremism. I agree that the Abrahamic religions are anti-moral. Most of their teachings (stone rape victims to death, etc.) are monstrous. There are a few good bits but they're surrounded by horrors. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbly_Dooright Posted June 3, 2017 #329 Share Posted June 3, 2017 23 hours ago, Blizno said: Warfare and slavery were common during that time as during just about every time before the present. I have yet to hear of any period in human history when war wasn't rampant. Right now is the least warlike time in all of human history. Violent crime, at least in the US, has been going down for decades. Abortion rates have been steadily going down for decades, because of education and birth control, except in Southern states, which still have high abortion rates because of "abstinence only" education (a proven failure) and difficulty finding information about birth control, all caused by Christian extremism. I agree that the Abrahamic religions are anti-moral. Most of their teachings (stone rape victims to death, etc.) are monstrous. There are a few good bits but they're surrounded by horrors. Though, I agree with you of us going through the least warlike time, I do wonder at the divisiveness this country at the moment. (Thanks to the election, maybe? ) And, I agree you on your points. What I bolded, (it's not that I disagree with you) growing up secular, I really wouldn't know, based on the lack of experience and not knowing the bible. (any version) But, I do get that there is a lot that would contradict itself, and a lot that would either contradict our laws and rights today, or at the least, be out of date. Yet, I hear so many that boast being biblical and wanting everyone to be biblical, and I get Are they really being one hundred percent biblical? And if they want me to be, are they ready for me to exercise any of it to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted June 4, 2017 #330 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 2017-6-2 at 11:40 AM, Mystic Crusader said: Strictly from a point of morality, before the fourth dynasty of Egypt, before the rise of the Abrahamic religions. fair enough, but of course one cannot separate out morality or even belief systems from technology and science. That would be a period with good (for its time) science and medicine yet still your life would be very hard, dangerous and probably short No antibiotics No vaccines so almost anything could kill you. No effective anaesthetics so having a tooth removed would be painful and any significant trauma would likely cause death You would be put to death or into slavery for many many reasons with no basic human rights or rights of appeal. You would have no freedom of movement and little freedom of expression Your life would be dependent on the vagaries of the nile and of the amount of surplus foods available to you Even a good life would be one of hard physical labour and little recreation or time off. For me the present is the golden age but the future will be even better But then i measure it on a " liveability index." which includes all elements of life. For example i think the 50s were a better time to be young than today, in social terms ,but not in economic or medical ones. We have lost a lot of the freedoms we enjoyed then, yet are materially richer, live longer, have better medical technologies, and have easier lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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