Claire. Posted May 24, 2017 #1 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Hunting Big Game: Why People Kill Animals for Fun "The big beast stood like an uncouth statue, his hide black in the sunlight; he seemed what he was, a monster surviving over from the world's past, from the days when the beasts of the prime ran riot in their strength, before man grew so cunning of brain and hand as to master them." Theodore Roosevelt, former U.S. president and renowned big-game hunter, waxed poetic about a massive bull rhinoceros in his 1910 book, "African Game Trails: An Account of the African Wanderings of an American Hunter-Naturalist," after glimpsing the rhino during a safari in British East Africa and the Belgian Congo earlier that year. What happened next? Roosevelt shot the beast. Read more: Live Science 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #2 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Because they're a$$holes, and it gives them a sick sense of power. I didn't even read the article yet. I'm going to do that now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted May 24, 2017 #3 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Bottom line: people who kill animals for fun have no empathy for other life forms. They have no feeling for the sanctity of life ........ whatever form it takes. Plus, what Future ghost said(except for the article reading bit ..... I did that). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted May 24, 2017 #4 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Where do you draw the line? Is hunting ducks OK, if so what about fishing? Don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of hurting an animal if not for food and I do definitely empathise with other lifeforms, just ask the bee I resuscitated yesterday, but honestly if I lived in certain parts of the U.S would I hunt deer? I think I would. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #5 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, Future ghost said: Because they're a$$holes, and it gives them a sick sense of power. I didn't even read the article yet. I'm going to do that now. Yep, that about sums it up. I'm not buying the whole big game hunting equals wildlife conservation bit, either. It may have started off with good intentions, but I can see that money being diverted into some crooks pocket. Aren't all roads to hell paved with good intentions? Just leave the animals alone and they'll do fine on their own- without our money, or " help" with conservation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 24, 2017 #6 Share Posted May 24, 2017 It was a different time with different values and knowledge back when Teddy wrote that and shot that. The amount of animals shot and killed by Teddy and his son on that safari was absolutely mind boggling too, but if you know anything about him you know Roosevelt was a naturalist and taxidermist from a very young age. Interestingly most the animals shot and stuffed on that expedition are on exhibit in museums across America to this very day and if you have ever seen a stuffed animal from Africa in the museum it was most likely shot be the former president or his son. To go big game hunting in this day and age though, I feel is wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 24, 2017 #7 Share Posted May 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, Future ghost said: Yep, that about sums it up. I'm not buying the whole big game hunting equals wildlife conservation bit, either. It may have started off with good intentions, but I can see that money being diverted into some crooks pocket. Aren't all roads to hell paved with good intentions? Just leave the animals alone and they'll do fine on their own- without our money, or " help" with conservation. Well people aren't going to leave them alone and park rangers in Africa must be funded somehow (not necessarily by hunting) so if you're concerned donate to the WWF or some other conservatory fund. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 24, 2017 #8 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I have to admit I shot gophers with a pellet gun as a kid and was paid for it. Mr. Waterfeild a rancher would pay us a dollar for every one we got. I thought it was fun. Now I shoot paper targets. Never been out hunting for real. I bought a thousand dollar crossbow last year not sure why. So far I have shot a tree. Plus I wouldn`t know what to do if I shot a deer or anything like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why not Posted May 24, 2017 #9 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I have hunted deer, hogs, turkey, gators, and fished all of my life. It's fun. It's tradition. It's for food. I eat everything that I have taken and respect animals and nature more then most. In today's world I have no respect for trophy hunters who kill any animal for the sake of saying they killed it and take pictures of themselves standing over it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #10 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, oldrover said: Where do you draw the line? Is hunting ducks OK, if so what about fishing? Don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of hurting an animal if not for food and I do definitely empathise with other lifeforms, just ask the bee I resuscitated yesterday, but honestly if I lived in certain parts of the U.S would I hunt deer? I think I would. Aww, a bee? That's so nice. Well, here in the U.S. we almost have to hunt deer because they're so overpopulated and have no natural enemies. That doesn't mean I like it, but I understand it. I feed all the animals that come to my property, and being in the country everyone here hunts. I'm a nervous wreck with all the gunshots going off. I can understand why people here do it- it's for food. Big game animals are not food that I know of. It's just a waste of life for bragging rights. If hunting is done in a responsible manner, the animals are not left to suffer needlessly, and the meat is harvested and not left to waste, I can understand it. Do I like it? No. But I can accept it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #11 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, OverSword said: Well people aren't going to leave them alone and park rangers in Africa must be funded somehow (not necessarily by hunting) so if you're concerned donate to the WWF or some other conservatory fund. That is an excellent idea! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted May 24, 2017 #12 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I used to shoot long time ago but here in the uk there's not a lot in the way of big game now I prefer to watch wildlife and do a bit of ferreting maybe work the dog now and again all for food though we got the same problem here too many deer and nothing to keep the population down accept people who shoot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 24, 2017 #13 Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Why not said: I have hunted deer, hogs, turkey, gators, and fished all of my life. It's fun. It's tradition. It's for food. I eat everything that I have taken and respect animals and nature more then most. In today's world I have no respect for trophy hunters who kill any animal for the sake of saying they killed it and take pictures of themselves standing over it. I can respect that, I love fishing and hope to go a few times this summer. I would have no idea how to hunt a gator. I think I would end up being the prey. I do have a problem with people that hunt lets say a Rino just for a picture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #14 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, Why not said: I have hunted deer, hogs, turkey, gators, and fished all of my life. It's fun. It's tradition. It's for food. I eat everything that I have taken and respect animals and nature more then most. In today's world I have no respect for trophy hunters who kill any animal for the sake of saying they killed it and take pictures of themselves standing over it. That's the difference between you and people who hunt exotic animals. You are a responsible hunter who does so for food, they're just killers who do it for fun. There is a difference. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted May 24, 2017 #15 Share Posted May 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Why not said: I have hunted deer, hogs, turkey, gators, and fished all of my life. It's fun. It's tradition. It's for food. I eat everything that I have taken and respect animals and nature more then most. In today's world I have no respect for trophy hunters who kill any animal for the sake of saying they killed it and take pictures of themselves standing over it. "It's fun" "It's tradition" is the worst excuse ever for doing something. Can you not think for yourself? Let's keep the good traditions and let the bad ones go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire. Posted May 24, 2017 Author #16 Share Posted May 24, 2017 All animals are safe with me, even if I were starving to death. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #17 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, The Silver Thong said: I can respect that, I love fishing and hope to go a few times this summer. I would have no idea how to hunt a gator. I think I would end up being the prey. I do have a problem with people that hunt lets say a Rino just for a picture. Hunting gators has got to be really dangerous, just ask that big game hunter- oops, you can't, he got eaten. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 24, 2017 #18 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: "It's fun" "It's tradition" is the worst excuse ever for doing something. Can you not think for yourself? Let's keep the good traditions and let the bad ones go. Hold on one second and this is coming from someone who has never hunted. Here in Canada hunting is a tradition to many and most ! do it for food not fun. Every few years we have to kull the deer population and still most never leave it to waste. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #19 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, The Silver Thong said: Hold on one second and this is coming from someone who has never hunted. Here in Canada hunting is a tradition to many and most ! do it for food not fun. Every few years we have to kull the deer population and still most never leave it to waste. Yep, it's the same way here. Cities hire sharpshooters to cull the deer if not enough have been hunted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted May 24, 2017 #20 Share Posted May 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said: Hold on one second and this is coming from someone who has never hunted. Here in Canada hunting is a tradition to many and most ! do it for food not fun. Every few years we have to kull the deer population and still most never leave it to waste. And the true hunters do it also to be out in nature. It is being immersed in nature. Personally I couldn't kill animals. Maybe if I was absolutely starving, but never been in that position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 24, 2017 #21 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, Future ghost said: Yep, it's the same way here. Cities hire sharpshooters to cull the deer if not enough have been hunted. Here it`s mostly farmers when a kull is called, not the farmers the deer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 24, 2017 #22 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, glorybebe said: And the true hunters do it also to be out in nature. It is being immersed in nature. Personally I couldn't kill animals. Maybe if I was absolutely starving, but never been in that position. I will say if I was hungry I would kill, I wouldn`t like it but I would do it no problem. I had a good friend years ago and he was an old trapper. I never could really get killing animals for fur. That kinda ticks me off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 24, 2017 #23 Share Posted May 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, Claire. said: All animals are safe with me, even if I were starving to death. If I'm starving to death all animals are safe in my pot over my fire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ghost Posted May 24, 2017 #24 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, The Silver Thong said: Here it`s mostly farmers when a kull is called, not the farmers the deer. Whew! For a minute there I thought I would have to ask what kind of messed up culls you do in Canada! Lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted May 24, 2017 #25 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I'm against harming animals for all reasons other than for survival purposes. At the very least, if an animal is hunted, it should be consumed, not mounted as a trophy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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