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The War on Drugs is based on FAKE SCIENCE!


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On 5/29/2017 at 6:49 AM, preacherman76 said:

I think for many people they are focused on the wrong thing. It shouldn't be about whether or not a administration supports certain laws. All laws should be fully supported. Letting the government pick an choose what laws they will enforce could end up with some really bad situations. 

They need to cut the head off of the snake know as the war on drugs by repealing certain laws. 

Unfortunately that would take massive public support. There are just to many people making a fortune off this war. From police departments, to the prison to industry. With many in between. Like companies that sell alcohol etc etc. 

Unfortunately the laws we wind up with have little correlate to public support even at super high support levels.   There's a "prison industrial complex" though, replete with prison guards lobbying politicians to keep weed illegal.

Anytime there's a one man lobby for the weed industry that says something simple-minded like:  

"Legalize Hemp!"

it's a Godwin's-like gravitational pull to

"So do you want to legalize cocaine and heroin and crystal meth too?"  

I always laugh inside and think "no I'm just talking about weed." but whatever the answer is it doesn't matter to the person using that objection, they just like clever rhetorical comebacks that support their opinion.    Will legalizing weed end the entire War on Drugs?   No, but it'll take a huge chunk out of the worst of it.   Having more liberty (freedom of choice under the law) to make choices that are right for us, instead of bureaucrats wearing uniforms putting us in cages or using brute and even lethal force against us if we don't submit to being treated like an animal (this is UM though, so a Rhodes Scholar could arrive at any moment with a two page "science" essay about how wrong I am and that humans, actually, are in the animal kingdom! :D). 

Whatever, Tommy Chong doesn't belong in prison.  Willie Nelson doesn't belong in prison.   Jesse Ventura doesn't belong there.   Even Woody Harrelson and Bill Maher don't belong.   Louis Armstrong!  A kiss to build a dream on?   Now there was a real danger to society!

The War on Drugs is a nightmare and drugs are more popular than ever; but people's lives were destroyed while others profited handsomely so since that's the case, mission accomplished!   Even if drugs becoming more popular than ever is the outcome we must endure (errrr try to survive), just skip the "War on" and let food and drugs become more or less popular, naturally.  Laissez Faire.   If the marketplace handled it, the drugs would be better, safer and happier across the board from food to chemicals alike.     But what govt is doing to pot/weed/marijuana is no worse than what it's doing for chemicals aka pharmaceuticals. 

We would have much better net results if Washington DC just kept its nose out of it altogether.   It's yet another state's issue, which are theoretically infinite in number under the US Constitution.   If the states have the power to decide whether to electrocute us or "lethal-inject" us, I'm sure the states can also figure out what to do with a few pounds of herbs. :)

 

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On 5/29/2017 at 6:29 AM, Uncle Sam said:

To be honest... weed is okay for recreational and Oxycotin is use for pain. Over counter medication must be monitered and controlled, while weed is recreational at best and should have limits placed on usage like beer. Those are the only things I am okay with, as for the other drugs, they should be banned and removed. They are extremely harmful and have caused overdose... they are not FDA approved over the counter drugs, they are uncontrolled substances that has unknown cocktail of drugs in them. Certain things are okay and certain things are terrible. It is a real grey area that needs to be updated. For users of drugs, they shouldn't be thrown in prison, they should be introduced to institutions that will help them curb their usage and eliminate the needs. This would be a larger blow to the drug cartels than just arresting them and placing them in prisons. What is a product if it has no customers?

Legal/Illegal doesn't make a difference with overdoses.   People overdose on legal drugs all the time.   Most of the orange bottles carried home from pharmacies in purses every day around the country contain fatal doses if swallowed.    There's all kinds of hazards and dangers in our households our families are exposed to with the legal drugs.    Oxycontin alone must kill over a thousand Americans a year just guessing without looking.

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On 5/29/2017 at 6:29 AM, Uncle Sam said:

To be honest... weed is okay for recreational and Oxycotin is use for pain. Over counter medication must be monitered and controlled, while weed is recreational at best and should have limits placed on usage like beer. Those are the only things I am okay with, as for the other drugs, they should be banned and removed.

Absolutely impossible.

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