UN: Sweden Will be Third World by 2030

[aztek]

1 hour ago, Gingitsune said:

I'm sorry, I haven't may myself clear enough, I meant Syria's territory become in full control under the European Union. It is a total takeover. The ones who administer the budget are Europeans. Refugees from all over the European Union are send back there. It would be closer to the occupation of Japan than Irak and Afghanistan "reconstruction".

do you think eu could afford it? it is bottomless pit. but hey if you could accomplish that, it would be a miracle.

[Dark_Grey]

2 hours ago, The Russian Hare said:

 

Just a PSA the word taqiyya gets used way too often, it's mostly a Shia thing that was used when they were oppressed by the Sunnis early on, and it's acceptable in an emergency to save your life (i.e. captured by an opposing sect for example).

It doesn't mean all muslims lie all the time about everything, although the religious ones do lie regularly to cover up the terrible things in their religion, that's not exactly a formal doctrine

(FYI this guy below is non-muslim from Iraq, he's pretty cool)

 

That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks brah

[Likely Guy]

7 hours ago, Sweetpumper said:

Pathetic.

Yeah. So far I'm just 7 posts in and this thread is pathetic.

[Likely Guy]

4 hours ago, Dark_Grey said:

Most immigrants are not terrorists, but the ones who don't assimilate are importing their culture along with their families. The big increase in rapes, acid attacks and violence is not a product of terrorism but rather a culture clash between their "normal" and our "normal". Once you stop believing the lie that all cultures are equal, the problem becomes very apparent.

How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

[Dark_Grey]

31 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

Anyone with a reasoning mind would see it for what it is. If you have an argument for why the culture in the Congo is better than American culture I would love to hear it. Yes, there are "better" cultures and "worse" cultures just like there are good people and bad people.

Likely, the entire premise of this thread is exposing the folly of believing we are all the same It doesn't mean you use that as a basis for racism, it means you are a realist. Sweden took a chance on it - you can read all about their experience in this "pathetic" thread.

Edited May 31, 2017 by Dark_Grey

[Michelle]

33 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

I can see where he is coming from. In this day and age, any country not allowing women to drive, leave the house without a male escort, must wear a burka, forbidden to attend school is an affront to everything we believe in. Their normal is not our normal.

We can't deny these cultures exist because of political correctness.

Edited May 31, 2017 by Michelle

[Likely Guy]

1 minute ago, Dark_Grey said:

Anyone with a reasoning mind would see it for what it is. If you have an argument for why the culture in the Congo is better than American culture I would love to hear it. Yes, there are "better" cultures and "worse" cultures just like there are good people and bad people.

Likely, the entire premise of this thread is exposing the folly of believing we are all the same It doesn't mean you use that as a basis for racism, it means you are a realist. Sweden took a chance on it - you can read all about their experience in this "pathetic" thread.

If you consider that cultures are not equal. then you must be able to 'rank' cultures.

I'm curious as to how you, personally, go about that.

[Likely Guy]

4 minutes ago, Michelle said:

I can see where he is coming from. In this day and age, any country not allowing women to drive, leave the house without a male escort, wear a burka, or attend school is an affront to everything we believe in. Their normal is not our normal.

We can't deny these cultures exist because of political correctness.

Anabaptists (Amish, Hutterites, Mennonites)... how would Dark Grey rate their cultures as well, I wonder?

By the way, my father's family was Mennonite.

[Michelle]

27 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

Anabaptists (Amish, Hutterites, Mennonites)... how would Dark Grey rate their cultures as well, I wonder?

By the way, my father's family was Mennonite.

I wouldn't seek out a place in their community. Our lifestyles are too different. I don't have anything against them, it just wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Diversity has never been a problem with me. If we have to spend a great deal of time together we need a meeting of the minds though. Certain things are non negotiable..

Edited May 31, 2017 by Michelle

[Likely Guy]

1 minute ago, Michelle said:

I wouldn't seek out a place in their community. Our lifestyles are too different. I don't have anything against them, it just wouldn't be my cup of tea.

Diversity has never been a problem with me. If we have to spend a great deal of time together we need a meeting of the minds. Certain things are non negotiable..

Strangely, I find myself arguing for the rights of religious conservatives while I'm probably as far away as you could get from either.

Yes, we do need a meeting of the minds.

[The Silver Thong]

7 hours ago, Sweetpumper said:

Sweden: Three Out of Four ‘Child Refugees’ Are Actually Adults

New study reveals shocking reality behind asylum seekers

https://www.infowars.com/sweden-three-out-of-four-child-refugees-are-actually-adults/

Ya it`s a page right out of fake news. Not your post but msm. To throw in some funny stuff this is what I think of CNN BBC MSNBC CTV CBS I think you got my drift.

*snip*

 

 Reason for the snip. It`s a popular comedy show. And family friendly. Maybe I should start hitting the report button when I don`t like something. I don`t want to make waves but really. Could I at least have the curtisey of knowing who snippedd my post.

 

Edited May 31, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[coolguy]

This is what happens when you open ur borders and let every body in 

[Likely Guy]

5 minutes ago, coolguy said:

This is what happens when you open ur borders and let every body in 

A few hundred years ago Native Americans probably said the same thing.

[The Silver Thong]

11 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

A few hundred years ago Native Americans probably said the same thing.

and look what happened, thats why we need borders and strong vetting otherwise we are next. Not to sound redundant but history repeats itself. If we don`t do something soon me and you will be a minority due to a religion and I don`t care what your color is or your so called race. Islam wants absalute rule clear and simple.  The problem is different this go around. At least the Natives fought back. Sweden and many other nations are told to bend over and take it and they do because they have no choice in this PC SJW crap.

Edited May 31, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[Likely Guy]

2 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said:

and look what happened, thats why we need borders and strong vetting otherwise we are next. Not to sound redundant but history repeats itself. If we don`t do something soon me and you will be minority and I don`t care what your color is or your so called race. The problem is different this go around. At least the Natives fought back. Sweden and many other nations are told to bend over and take it and they do because they have no choice in this PC SJW crap.

So, we were no better than the new 'invaders'.

[The Silver Thong]

12 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

So, we were no better than the new 'invaders'.

So it`s ok today according to you it appears. A genocide is a genocide. It will come from within and you will be lied about it. Do you want to pray 5 times a day, do you want to beat your wife do you want sharia law that says there have to be 5 men as witness to it for it to go to court. Do you want Honor killings to be ok. It`s happening, yes here in Canada as well. When is enough enough to you. I would rather live in a secular country where we have rights under law not religion based on what, nothing. That will kill you for just not believing.

[The Silver Thong]

51 minutes ago, coolguy said:

This is what happens when you open ur borders and let every body in 

Carefull what you say. The snowflakes are all over the place.

Edited May 31, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[The Silver Thong]

2 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

Dark Grey said this Once you stop believing the lie that all cultures are equal, the problem becomes very apparent.

Then you said How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

But to a snowflake it`s ok to be called a Kaffar or an infidel. How is that not bigoted. Is this just a one way street. Humans are equal but culture is not.

Edited May 31, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[Rlyeh]

3 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

If you consider that cultures are not equal. then you must be able to 'rank' cultures.

I'm curious as to how you, personally, go about that.

Freedom of religion, human rights.. etc.
Are you suggesting a culture that executes apostates is just as good as one that doesn't?

[Dark_Grey]

11 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

If you consider that cultures are not equal. then you must be able to 'rank' cultures.

I'm curious as to how you, personally, go about that.

I'm curious how you equate culture in Norway with culture in Saudi Arabia. They're the same, right?

[Dark_Grey]

10 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

A few hundred years ago Native Americans probably said the same thing.

They were too busy scalping and enslaving each other to notice.

8 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Freedom of religion, human rights.. etc.
Are you suggesting a culture that executes apostates is just as good as one that doesn't?

Exactly. That's all there is to it. Don't over think my statement, Likely. Take it at face value

 

[Dark_Grey]

Yeah, I'm not doing your homework for you. Here's a Google search on Tommy's recent arrest to get you started.

There are pages and pages of content discussing problems with Islam in the UK. Just because you aren't aware of all the goings on, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

16 hours ago, Setton said:

Of course people are talking about it. It's just our responses tend to be more nuanced than 'kick everyone who's different out' or 'lets bomb other countries to make them like us'.

This I will respond to directly. Your "nuanced" response is what? "Keep calm and carry on" until more people are blown up next month? Not a good strategy.
As far as perpetuating that old American trope of "bombing for freedom", it's a little rich coming from an Englishman.

Spoiler

Just look at all that British conquest...

 

[Setton]

4 hours ago, Dark_Grey said:

Yeah, I'm not doing your homework for you. Here's a Google search on Tommy's recent arrest to get you started.

You're not doing anyone's homework, including your own. Nothing on that search refers to any arrest. I begin to get the feeling you're fabricating and hoping no-one calls you out on it.

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There are pages and pages of content discussing problems with Islam in the UK. Just because you aren't aware of all the goings on, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Then, I say again, I'm sure you'll be able to provide some. So far, you've failed quite miserably.

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This I will respond to directly. Your "nuanced" response is what? "Keep calm and carry on" until more people are blown up next month? Not a good strategy.

No, more like the strategies currently employed to identify risks and deradicalise them or remove them before they commit any attacks. You could learn a lot from that.

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As far as perpetuating that old American trope of "bombing for freedom", it's a little rich coming from an Englishman.

I was referring to the solutions proposed for this country by others in the Manchester bombings thread... You're the one who's brought America into this. Guilty conscience?

As for referring to the British Empire, that was never claimed as an effort to prevent those countries attacking us. It was all about gathering territory and power. We can discuss the moral dimensions of that in another thread if you really want but it's not the same as this 'War on terror'.

[keithisco]

Back on topic... from reading the linked UN Report what is really of concern is that the trendline for Swedish HDI is relentlessly regressive. There is little doubt that unless someone takes notice in Sweden then the first example of a 1st world nation devolving to 3rd world status is unfolding before our eyes.

Personally I do not think that Sweden has the fight left in it to even change this trajectory... year after year and decade after decade the loony liberal and PC thinking is so entrenched that they have doomed their whole way of life and any hope for their future citizens to enjoy the benefits of living in an advanced society.

It is a sad thing to watch and their cuckolded spirit is the true cancer in the western European psyche.

[F3SS]

22 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

How can that statement not be considered bigoted?

NAZI Germany was a culture. Slews of homicidal cultures throughout history. Are we equal to those? Or are cultures only equal while they exist together? There are probably small cannibal cultures somewhere.