ExpandMyMind Posted June 2, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Quote When you’re wondering why politicians vote or act one way or the other, the best thing to do is follow the money. So it will come as no surprise whatsoever to anyone that the 22 Republican Senators that signed an anti-Paris letter a few days ago are all heavily funded by big oil and coal corporations. The letter, signed by some of the most prominent climate change deniers in the land, including Senator James “Snowball Thrower” Inhofe, praised Trump for all the work he’s done reversing Obama-era climate measures so far. “We applaud you for your ongoing efforts to reduce overregulation in America,” it reads. “To continue on this path, we urge you to make a clean exit from the Paris agreement so that your administration can follow through on its commitment to rescind the Clean Power Plan.” http://www.iflscience.com/environment/republicans-urged-trump-exit-paris-funded-fossil-fuel-companies/ Scumbags, the lot of them. Oh well, I guess since there are a whole two countries or so worse than them in the world, it makes it okay. A bit like a murderer saying 'Bundy and Manson killed more' as a way to justify his actions. Sickening. Edited June 2, 2017 by Saru Added source link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 2, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Out of curiosity, have you looked up the oil and coal companies that favored staying in like Shell and Exxon? It might interest you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpumper Posted June 2, 2017 #3 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I'm offended!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted June 2, 2017 #4 Share Posted June 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sweetpumper said: I'm offended!!! Well, shouldn't one have a right to be, or is a facetious response going to be the standard response to any criticism of Emperor Donald's increasingly deluded megalomania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 2, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: or is a facetious response going to be the standard response to any criticism of Emperor Donald's increasingly deluded megalomania? What is increasingly delusional is the level of hysteria being expressed over every move the man makes. IF he acted based on the wishes of his backers in business then how is he different from any other politician of the modern era? The treaty called an agreement has no penalty, hence, no teeth, and is essentially ignored by the other major polluters on the planet. Good riddance. It was just another self-serving attempt by the jug-eared fool who recently left the Oval Office, to knee-cap America in every way possible. And... megalomania? Hyperbole, much? Oh yeah, fur shurr, it's TEOTWAWKI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted June 2, 2017 #6 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Big oil funds all the top players. BP was one of 0bamas top donors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 2, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 2, 2017 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 2, 2017 #8 Share Posted June 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: They get to build a fire? People are being fined for heating their homes with wood these days. Put that fire out right now! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted June 2, 2017 #9 Share Posted June 2, 2017 In other news, a new study has shown that water is wet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 2, 2017 #10 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Quote Quote For one min imagine the world with out oil. I do not support busness and politics bedding together never had but just think of were we would be like with out it right now. No internet, less food, sitting in old rocking chairs in front of a fire built in a fireplace made of mud. Business and politics needs to be seperated. Lets get rid of donations and go on the vote alone like it once was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 2, 2017 #11 Share Posted June 2, 2017 It should not cost a billion dollars to become president. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 2, 2017 #12 Share Posted June 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: In other news, a new study has shown that water is wet. In other news air is being taxed and water being poisioned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 2, 2017 #13 Share Posted June 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, Michelle said: They get to build a fire? People are being fined for heating their homes with wood these days. Put that fire out right now! Jokes are hard for you, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 2, 2017 #14 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Jokes are hard for you, huh? If you think that is a joke, you know even less than I thought you do. Here is a link to get you started... https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2014/01/29/epas-wood-burning-stove-ban-has-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/#6dbe2a17ee0f Edited June 2, 2017 by Michelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 2, 2017 #15 Share Posted June 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Michelle said: If you think that is a joke, you know even less than I thought you do. Here is a link to get you started... https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2014/01/29/epas-wood-burning-stove-ban-has-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/#6dbe2a17ee0f As dense and arrogant as ever, I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted June 2, 2017 #16 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) I see Forbes isn't even credible anymore. At least I provide sources for my claims. Edited June 3, 2017 by Michelle 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted June 3, 2017 #17 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, The Silver Thong said: In other news air is being taxed and water being poisioned. And what are you doing about it? its YOUR government taxing the air. It's YOUR government supporting the people poisoning the water. But yes, let's focus on the important stuff like becoming pariahs in the global community by reneging on a non-binding agreement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 3, 2017 #18 Share Posted June 3, 2017 56 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: becoming pariahs in the global community by reneging on a non-binding agreement. That's the POINT. We would be the ONLY nation being vilified for not keeping spirit AND letter of this treaty that wasn't subjected to the legal process for treaties. The U.S. has done more to clean up our industries than any other nation and I think you should be aware of that fact. This treaty, er, agreement, is a good thing to aspire to, no doubt. But when only one nation is expected to spend/tax huge amounts of money to make progress for the whole planet then screw them! We don't OWE the world any damned thing. If the crisis is as they state it to be then it sounds like everyone better get busy rather than whining like a bunch of children because someone expects them to help with the family chores. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted June 3, 2017 #19 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, and then said: That's the POINT. We would be the ONLY nation being vilified for not keeping spirit AND letter of this treaty that wasn't subjected to the legal process for treaties. The U.S. has done more to clean up our industries than any other nation and I think you should be aware of that fact. This treaty, er, agreement, is a good thing to aspire to, no doubt. But when only one nation is expected to spend/tax huge amounts of money to make progress for the whole planet then screw them! We don't OWE the world any damned thing. If the crisis is as they state it to be then it sounds like everyone better get busy rather than whining like a bunch of children because someone expects them to help with the family chores. If you don't want the world to look to you for leadership, don't push to the front of the crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 3, 2017 #20 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: And what are you doing about it? its YOUR government taxing the air. It's YOUR government supporting the people poisoning the water. But yes, let's focus on the important stuff like becoming pariahs in the global community by reneging on a non-binding agreement. The problem is to become a political influence one must be bought off first. There isn`t much I can do to be honest. Maybe go off grid and stop paying tax`s. The ones that complain the most about climate change are the ones doing the most damage. Ones who are rich enough jet around the globe on private jets burning more fossile fuel in one trip then I could burn in a lifetime. Look at Richard Branson and his planes and rockets, look at Bill Gates and his privat planes and mansions. Look at Obama jetting all over on the tax payers back. Obama went on a trip somewhere I can`t remember but he used a plane and a 14 suv caravan. My god these people make me sick and yes burning wood to heat a small cabin is wrong. wth Edited June 3, 2017 by The Silver Thong 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 3, 2017 #21 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: If you don't want the world to look to you for leadership, don't push to the front of the crowd. There's a huge difference between leading and being used by the rest as suckers. The rest of the world needs to get off its ass and give a help or screw them and their expectations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted June 3, 2017 #22 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Yeah, that's what we have. Over regulation. That's why the 1% have been able to rape us the way they have. <sarcasm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted June 3, 2017 #23 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) Let's see... Stay in Paris Climate Agreement = Do whatever the hell you want, but promise to do better. Leave the Paris Climate Agreement = Do whatever the hell you want, but promise nothing. Yes, I see why people are so ticked off, we're not promising (with fingers crossed) anything anymore. Is that promise so very precious? Trump could have left us in the Agreement and then just ignored it, but apparently he didn't want to be a liar, so he feels we should leave. People who think this means the US is going to kill the world are so very, very ignorant. Do they really believe that the US was going to cripple ourself if we aren't constrained to. Pulling out of the Agreement underlines the absolute worthlessness of the Agreement to begin with. Other then to redistribute a couple billion dollars from "wealthy" nations to "poor" nations. Edited June 3, 2017 by DieChecker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted June 3, 2017 #24 Share Posted June 3, 2017 12 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said: Scumbags, the lot of them. Oh well, I guess since there are a whole two countries or so worse than them in the world, it makes it okay. A bit like a murderer saying 'Bundy and Manson killed more' as a way to justify his actions. Sickening. I have noticed the heavy media distortions beginning over this. At his press conference Trump didnt say he was against stopping global warming. He said he was taking the US out of the Paris agreement because unlike the other members the US is paying 100s of billions of dollars into it every year. In short, the US has a bad deal. And quite frankly I agree with him so forcing a renegotiation is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted June 3, 2017 #25 Share Posted June 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, RabidMongoose said: He said he was taking the US out of the Paris agreement because unlike the other members the US is paying 100s of billions of dollars into it every year. In short, the US has a bad deal. isn't it fair that nations should pay proportionately to their contribution to glomal warming emissions and stuff? Does the US pay disproportionately to its contribution to emissions? Don't, for example, China and Russia and so on pay a proportional amount also? If they don't, surely this ought to be fixed. As far as emissions are concerned Washington would surely be a world leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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