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I was meat cleaver'ed in the neck


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Hey so this is one of the main reasons i sought out a forum like this so I could get lots of different opinions :)

Yesterday i was taking a nap on my sofa in the afternoon.  the details are a little vague but ill do my best to get the main points across.

 

So first i was drifting off but i'm not quite sure i made it all the way to sleep.  I heard a noise like a bang or a crash and then all of a sudden a meat cleaver LANDED IN MY NECK! 

I know right! even in my dream/vision i was shocked.  

 

I remembered to stay calm and I distinctively remember there was no pain at all but their was slight blood.  I remember not wanting to talk in case that brought on the pain or had any other negative outcome on me.  My brother was there (not in waking life though) and he asked me if it real and I pushed on my wound with the cleaver sticking out and bled so i could show him it was real.  At this point I can't remember if i spoke to reply but I remember he understood and then that was it from him.  I was being very careful with my movements and I absolutely remember being like "okay I have a meat cleaver sticking out of my neck.. everything is going to be okay" 

 

What seems funny is that it all seems blended.  I was still in the same clothes I went to lay down in.  I believe after the cleaver landed in me I had to get up from the couch I was just trying to nap from.  But then my brother was there and I was possibly then viewing my mums home.

 

When I came through I instinctively checked to see if there was a meat cleaver sticking out of me because everything was just as real as those moments ago where it had happened.  I have done my own search on the possible meanings and interpretations which i'm not going to share.  If anyone has any ideas or prompted thoughts that are in anyway relative I welcome them.  Also if you have any questions I do not mind answering them.  if I can give you more details or recall something I will be sure to update.

 

I would also like to know what people think in terms of why I can seem to acknowledge whether it was a dream or a vision.  If this was a dream.. okay.. but a lot of its factors were too much like my original day prior to my intended nap.

If this were a vision then I have never ever ever been taken through a vision physically in such a way like that before.

 

I would like to disclose I do not profess myself a psychic, a medium, a spiritual guide of between worlds or whatever.  I have read a lot of labels and to be quite honest I don't know what I am so i am certainly not going to start preaching like I do.  I admire all those who have been introduced to their true selves and are in sync with their roles and labels but i am just finding myself and until I know for sure I wont be claiming myself anything.  I will however continue to post my experiences, theories, questions purely from an inquisitive, honest soul.

 

Thank love

 

M :-* 

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Maybe it's a sign you shouldn't take that butcher's apprenticeship. 

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I don't know why but I am affected by your reply.  Are you trying to make a joke? Do you need some attention? 

How may I help? 

M

^_^

 

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It was a dream. What leads you to believe that you were having a vision?

Visions aren't real, dreams don't mean anything other than we were having a dream.

 

Oh, why do I even bother posting. I've had this debate one too many times and it is always responded back with vague "visions" of impossible things to prove or my favorite, "I DO HAVE VISIONS BUT I WONT GO INTO DETAILS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO" type of response.

 

Either way, I wish you luck.

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On 19/07/2017 at 9:52 PM, mr3rdrock said:

It was a dream. What leads you to believe that you were having a vision?

Visions aren't real, dreams don't mean anything other than we were having a dream.

 

Oh, why do I even bother posting. I've had this debate one too many times and it is always responded back with vague "visions" of impossible things to prove or my favorite, "I DO HAVE VISIONS BUT I WONT GO INTO DETAILS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TO" type of response.

 

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Either way, I wish you luck.

Hey thanks for your comment.  I am lead to believe it MAY have been a vision because I was wearing the same clothes and I had to get up from the same spot I was laid down in.  

Also, I believe it may have been a vision as it felt real.  All the physical structures and senses I encounter in my waking life (or should I say that my brain reconises as a physical experience) felt exactly the same in this moment however I felt no pain.  

 

I dont want want to have a debate with you over who is right or wrong.  I haven't joined this sight so I can start telling people I'm right and everything I believe is gospel because I don't know that as fact.

 

Just like I am absolutely sure that you are also not correct.  You don't know if I had a dream or not because it wasn't your experience.  You are judging what you have read here and are making your own assumptions and your own conclusions as to what happened to me but we both know that you don't either.

 

I think that for you to say visions aren't real and dreams don't mean anything is maybe the result of you being scared of the unknown possibilities so much that you justify with your 'knowledge' when you a human does not know everything.  

I am fascinated in your response :) There are literally millions of testimonies in the world describing events like this and many other thought provoking statements and you are saying that visions aren't real and dreams don't mean anything.  For you to actually believe that is, again; fascinating.  

Well Mr3rdRock, I don't agree with you.  I KNOW that you are not correct in what you are saying and the reason being is that I was the one who felt and lived my experience not you.  And even if it was maybe just a dream (I haven't and am not claiming my experience to be anything solid, I am merely questioning the possibility) the factors of the 'dream' such as what I could touch, feel, taste, see etc so what I could sense we're all actual figments of my imagination right? Because it was a 'dream' right? 

Well all those same senses are active during 'waking' life so how do I know not this isn't a dream also? 

I know you don't know.  I know I don't know.  I know I believe in the possibilities.  

 

I think if you opened your mind to the possibilities you would be incredibly amazed at the new perspective of life you could gain.

 

Question:  Have you never had a dream that relates to your daily life?  You love someone so much you dream of them?  You're so stressed you dream about your boss chewing your ear off? You've been pondering something and the answer comes to you as if delivered by your own subconscious? 

Do you really believe dreams don't mean anything? Because if you do believe that what your mind can do is merely nothing and insignificant it may explain why you're not susceptible to the possibilities of something more than 'physical' happening to you.

Either way, I wish you luck :-* 

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Dreams definitely mean things, as they can be related to any aspect of of you life, and a manifestation of your subconscious which can provide you with answers you never knew you had.

Having said that, I don't think there's any reason to look for any kind of fantastical explanation to what you experienced. I'm not suggesting it wasn't a profound experience for you, but it's very typical of logically explained sleep/wake lucid dream type experiences. 

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Hey Timothy thank you! ^_^ 

I agree.  I'm not looking for the answers of what it meant but what I am doing is sharing it, as you said, it was profound to me and definitely intriguing as nothing has ever happened to me like that.  

I have had similar lucid/wake states in dreaming before but nothing like this.  I'm not looking for the facts because who knows.  I enjoy the endless possibilities I enjoy thinking into the wonderful ways it can help progress in my life.  

 

That at being said that doesn't mean I'm not on a mission to learn what it meant haha 

 

I appreciate the openness in your reply :) so again thank you 

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40 minutes ago, Myke369 said:

 

Hey thanks for your comment.  I am lead to believe it MAY have been a vision because I was wearing the same clothes and I had to get up from the same spot I was laid down in.  

Also, I believe it may have been a vision as it felt real.  All the physical structures and senses I encounter in my waking life (or should I say that my brain reconises as a physical experience) felt exactly the same in this moment however I felt no pain.  

 

I dont want want to have a debate with you over who is right or wrong.  I haven't joined this sight so I can start telling people I'm right and everything I believe is gospel because I don't know that as fact.

 

Just like I am absolutely sure that you are also not correct.  You don't know if I had a dream or not because it wasn't your experience.  You are judging what you have read here and are making your own assumptions and your own conclusions as to what happened to me but we both know that you don't either.

 

I think that for you to say visions aren't real and dreams don't mean anything is maybe the result of you being scared of the unknown possibilities so much that you justify with your 'knowledge' when you a human does not know everything.  

I am fascinated in your response :) There are literally millions of testimonies in the world describing events like this and many other thought provoking statements and you are saying that visions aren't real and dreams don't mean anything.  For you to actually believe that is, again; fascinating.  

Well Mr3rdRock, I don't agree with you.  I KNOW that you are not correct in what you are saying and the reason being is that I was the one who felt and lived my experience not you.  And even if it was maybe just a dream (I haven't and am not claiming my experience to be anything solid, I am merely questioning the possibility) the factors of the 'dream' such as what I could touch, feel, taste, see etc so what I could sense we're all actual figments of my imagination right? Because it was a 'dream' right? 

Well all those same senses are active during 'waking' life so how do I know not this isn't a dream also? 

I know you don't know.  I know I don't know.  I know I believe in the possibilities.  

 

I think if you opened your mind to the possibilities you would be incredibly amazed at the new perspective of life you could gain.

 

Question:  Have you never had a dream that relates to your daily life?  You love someone so much you dream of them?  You're so stressed you dream about your boss chewing your ear off? You've been pondering something and the answer comes to you as if delivered by your own subconscious? 

Do you really believe dreams don't mean anything? Because if you do believe that what your mind can do is merely nothing and insignificant it may explain why you're not susceptible to the possibilities of something more than 'physical' happening to you.

Either way, I wish you luck :-* 

Did you know there are hundreds if not thousands of testimony that the earth is flat? Turns out its not, but I digress. Anecdotal experience does not equal truth, and I know that I am correct that it is a dream because it is physically impossible to have visions. I'm sorry, but that's just the way the brain works. Just as it is impossible for the earth to be flat, it is impossible for humans to have any kind of psychic ability. You can believe in the possibilities all that you want, but that doesn't change the fact that you do  not have visions, nor does anybody else.

I find it "fascinating" that you believe in these possibilities and cite "millions" of anecdotal testimony as your evidence, yet there has never been any concrete proof that psychics exist. You'd think out of the millions of people who have experienced the psychic phenomena one would be able to prove it... Maybe win the lottery, maybe save someone's life?

I'm not afraid of the unknown, I actually try to embrace it.

As far as dreams not meaning anything, I apologize I thought you were referring to symbols in dreams and their meanings, not mental manifestations of the subconscious mind.

Our senses don't fall asleep, many people smell, feel physical touch, and hear things while they are asleep. Its not that hard to comprehend.

If you are having a hard time discerning what is a dream and what is reality I recommend you seek professional help. (That's not me being a jerk, I actually mean that sincerely.)

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7 minutes ago, mr3rdrock said:

Did you know there are hundreds if not thousands of testimony that the earth is flat? Turns out its not, but I digress. Anecdotal experience does not equal truth, and I know that I am correct that it is a dream because it is physically impossible to have visions. I'm sorry, but that's just the way the brain works. Just as it is impossible for the earth to be flat, it is impossible for humans to have any kind of psychic ability. You can believe in the possibilities all that you want, but that doesn't change the fact that you do  not have visions, nor does anybody else.

I find it "fascinating" that you believe in these possibilities and cite "millions" of anecdotal testimony as your evidence, yet there has never been any concrete proof that psychics exist. You'd think out of the millions of people who have experienced the psychic phenomena one would be able to prove it... Maybe win the lottery, maybe save someone's life?

I'm not afraid of the unknown, I actually try to embrace it.

As far as dreams not meaning anything, I apologize I thought you were referring to symbols in dreams and their meanings, not mental manifestations of the subconscious mind.

Our senses don't fall asleep, many people smell, feel physical touch, and hear things while they are asleep. Its not that hard to comprehend.

If you are having a hard time discerning what is a dream and what is reality I recommend you seek professional help. (That's not me being a jerk, I actually mean that sincerely.)

Well then thank you I appreciate your concern.  

since you are saying it is factually impossible for these things/experiences to occur I see that you have already made your mind up about the physical universe and it's properties and connection to us.  

There is lots of proof and evidence of psychics and mediums etc (which I am not claiming to be) however you have decided that they are wrong because it's impossible.  

 

Winning the the lottery and saving someone's life are 2 examples of selfish ways to use such an ability if psychics were real. 

1. Because even though you may say you will be food and clothes for the poor by wanting to win the lottery in order to help leads you to believe that the means you already have are not worthy enough for you to be of help without winning the lottery (for example)

2.  If someone is meant to die then interrupting that would only prolong the inevitable.  The reasoning for saving someone's life is to save yourself/others from grieving? So you wouldn't be without that person? So that person could still be alive? 

If something has happened I believe it is because it is meant to.  If you have experienced something then there is a reason no matter how small.

 

Because if this is all meant to happen then why would I stop it? Why would I disallow the universe to work naturally in order to protect my views or beliefs? 

 

If you think that we just here and are meant to wake up, work/pass time, socialise and then sleep and do it all again tomorrow then it is you that I recommend psychological help.  Sincerely so you can be inspired to learn the truth about the inconceivable world we live in.  

 

 

 

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Also unless you have been to space and have a photo of the earth to show me what shape it is. I don't believe you on that front either.  I don't have an idea of what this planet looks like.  Maybe when I die I will go have a look.  But no I won't be admitted or denying anything just because one lot of scientists say one thing doesn't mean that the theories produced by others are incorrect.  

 

Science is used to explore the universe and the nature inside.  Not to label and compartmentalise it's structures as if we actually know and understand them?  The universe it's self is far more complex than our accumulative guesses because In theory that's all everything this.  Has Mother Nature come to you and said "Yes this is how life works, you are right!" I doubt it.  She hasn't said anything to me either but that doesn't mean my ideals are impossible.  I believed what you believed once and then I learnt there is so much more and I just hope that something one day truly opens your eyes.  Not to my truth but to the unknown.  See that not everything has a simple answer.  

One day you will say magic is real because that's as simple as you can say it.  One day ;) 

 

Nameste 

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On ‎19‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 4:39 PM, Myke369 said:

I don't know why but I am affected by your reply.  Are you trying to make a joke? Do you need some attention? 

How may I help? 

M

^_^

 

One day you may be able to offer many people help.

From what you have posted, you have special abilities and "the sight".

Just remember what happened to Mama Murphy.

 

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10 hours ago, eugeneonegin said:

One day you may be able to offer many people help.

From what you have posted, you have special abilities and "the sight".

Just remember what happened to Mama Murphy.

 

Mama Murphy is a character in a Bethesda computer game (you can Google her).

She claimed to have "the sight" in order to persuade the Sole Survivor supply her with "chems".

She died of an overdose and was exposed as a charlatan, although it is entirely possible she was sincere at heart.

It is just a cautionary tale, as Bethesda, and Todd Howard, are moral at heart.

It is not personal.

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46 minutes ago, eugeneonegin said:

Mama Murphy is a character in a Bethesda computer game (you can Google her).

She claimed to have "the sight" in order to persuade the Sole Survivor supply her with "chems".

She died of an overdose and was exposed as a charlatan, although it is entirely possible she was sincere at heart.

It is just a cautionary tale, as Bethesda, and Todd Howard, are moral at heart.

It is not personal.

Oh cool I thought she was an actual person.  Is she skyrim? 

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19 hours ago, Myke369 said:

Science is used to explore the universe and the nature inside.  Not to label and compartmentalise it's structures as if we actually know and understand them?  The universe it's self is far more complex than our accumulative guesses because In theory that's all everything this.  Has Mother Nature come to you and said "Yes this is how life works, you are right!" I doubt it.  She hasn't said anything to me either but that doesn't mean my ideals are impossible.  I believed what you believed once and then I learnt there is so much more and I just hope that something one day truly opens your eyes.  Not to my truth but to the unknown.  See that not everything has a simple answer.  

First, it sounds like you had a powerful dream.  Almost everybody has had one or more dreams that they remember above all others. Dreams are more than nothing, they can be various parts of our brain  integrating thoughts and impressions together. They can be free association, calling up a smell an remembering every time you smelled it all at once then detouring down what you were feeling or hearing when you smelled a particular smell one time.  Sometimes dreams help solve problems.  You might keep a journal of your dreams and writhe them down every day, or as soon as a dream wake you up.  You might try lucid dreaming in which you learn to direct what you dream about.

As far as people know so far, dreams are confined to the limits of your own brain.  They don't seem to affect anything  on the outside,  no demonstrations of astral travel or remote seeing or precognition have been validated.  They seem very real to the dreamer nonetheless. 

If I could say something now about validation and consistency: In your own head, you are in charge.  In the world you play by the rules of the game the universe has created.  If you don't understand the rules well, you play the game poorly.

Flat earth for example:  no edge has been found.  For 500 years sailors and more recently air passengers have been able to go east, or any direction  far enough and wind up back at their starting point.  The earth's surface seems to be a closed surface - round, a sphere without a detectable edge.  Most other solids have edges and vertices, none have been found.  All of the planets and stars we observe have a spherical shape for the most part.  Beyond physical observation, there are physical considerations like gravity and electromagnetic radiation.  Gravity in particular does not work well on a flat disk.   As you walked toward the edge, the pull toward the center of mass of the earth would be to a point behind you.  You would find yourself leaning further and further forward to align your body with that pull.  The sense of  up and down  would radically change as you moved away from the center.

The shape of the earth follows the rules of the  game.  No rule is independent of other rules in the rule book.  If you want to cheat or hack the rules, you could make the shape of the earth  flat.  You would have to change all of the rule book to do that.  When you start changing the rulebook, unless you have a godlike complete understanding, the rules you change lead to unexpected consequences.

Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries.  Many of us here you might call skeptics.  We believe in the rule book.  If one proposes Bigfoot, or ghosts, or astral traveling, or alien visitations, in many cases we would love for it to be true.  But we go back to the rule book.  Does it fit with the rules we know? Does it add a new rule that is consistent with the others? If so, then it might certainly exist.   If not you might counter that it follows new rules.  Then we ask how do those rules you propose fit seamlessly into the rules of the cosmos we already know.

There is another corollary to the rulebook in an infinite universe:  whatever is not forbidden, will necessarily happen.

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Hey Tatetopa! Thank you for your comment.

 

firstly I would just like to say that I think you should throw out your rule book.  

 

Who yo tells a deaf dumb mute what the rules are?  How do they know what is what? 

 

As as far as the flat earth goes - that's none of my concern until you or someone or myself actually goes to space takes a picture and comes back.

 

Also astral travel, remote view, alternate physical perception and many other 'unexplained' phenomena are confirmed by many many people.  But those people are not taken seriously unless they have merit and status and the only way to get merit and status is to follow your said rule book.  

 

Have you not thought that the rules are as outdated as the authors?  History is written by the victors.  The world is 'shaped' by the victors vision.  Why are there 500 year old flat earth records and only a 1ft decline in height from the top of the mile long river Nile when the earth is supposedly curved at 6" per mile (or something around those figures). If this were true.  The taller and the higher someone were to be they would have to look more directly downwards to view the earth.  One would not be able to scale a building and then look out into the horizon without noticing the curvature of the planet.  

 

I'm not saying these are my beleifs I'm just sharing some information that may be valuable to consider when considering the shape of the planet.  

 

There are 4 'rules' to the universe and gravity ain't one ;) 

 

Nameste

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57 minutes ago, Myke369 said:

Also astral travel, remote view, alternate physical perception and many other 'unexplained' phenomena are confirmed by many many people.  

By statistics, many many people claimed to have seen Elvis today. At many many locations.

 

 

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Last night I was stranded on the Island of Nymphomaniac Amazon Women. I was lucky to escape with my life. Fortunately, I awoke in the nick of time. No more binge-watching Xena, for me.

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There is skepticism and then there is ridicule.  I understand I have struck a nerve with anyone for offering conflicting beleifs but if you have to resort to making fun due to technicalities then this becomes a playground rather than a place for healthy discussion.

 

I don't pretend to offer the facts.  Just the possibilities and quite frankly it appears that some are offended by the chance that their lives aren't as factual and as linear as they imagined and it's ok.

 

But please take note.  If your comment isn't productive to the discussion then why are you posting?  Kind of defeats the purpose of coming here to chat with like-minded individuals.  Especially if the site is called 'unexplained-mysteries' yet most are claiming to have the explanation? :D ha ha 

 

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On 7/21/2017 at 4:29 PM, Myke369 said:

Also unless you have been to space and have a photo of the earth to show me what shape it is. I don't believe you on that front either.  I don't have an idea of what this planet looks like.  Maybe when I die I will go have a look.  But no I won't be admitted or denying anything just because one lot of scientists say one thing doesn't mean that the theories produced by others are incorrect.  

 

Science is used to explore the universe and the nature inside.  Not to label and compartmentalise it's structures as if we actually know and understand them?  The universe it's self is far more complex than our accumulative guesses because In theory that's all everything this.  Has Mother Nature come to you and said "Yes this is how life works, you are right!" I doubt it.  She hasn't said anything to me either but that doesn't mean my ideals are impossible.  I believed what you believed once and then I learnt there is so much more and I just hope that something one day truly opens your eyes.  Not to my truth but to the unknown.  See that not everything has a simple answer.  

One day you will say magic is real because that's as simple as you can say it.  One day ;) 

 

Nameste 

Have you ever been on a ship or a plane? How about have you ever noticed the horizon, or that you can see more stuff if you're up higher? 

There are lots of satellite images of the Earth. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiS97yfv5_VAhVCKCYKHenqBtsQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popsci.com%2F10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round&usg=AFQjCNE2MPMsdAZzwIFAQ-IWS3Z0qDmpJw

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12 minutes ago, ChaosRose said:

Have you ever been on a ship or a plane? How about have you ever noticed the horizon, or that you can see more stuff if you're up higher? 

There are lots of satellite images of the Earth. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiS97yfv5_VAhVCKCYKHenqBtsQFggmMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popsci.com%2F10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round&usg=AFQjCNE2MPMsdAZzwIFAQ-IWS3Z0qDmpJw

Hey thank you for your comment.  I know where to look for satalite pics but the evidence that I would deem valid would be if YOU or I took the photo.  

 

But it also let me point out that while on planes and ships (which I have been on) the horizon is completely flat.  A straight line,  no curvature, no looking down.  Have you noticed that no matter how high you go the horizon is at eye-level? 

 

All the best 

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3 minutes ago, Myke369 said:

Hey thank you for your comment.  I know where to look for satalite pics but the evidence that I would deem valid would be if YOU or I took the photo.  

 

But it also let me point out that while on planes and ships (which I have been on) the horizon is completely flat.  A straight line,  no curvature, no looking down.  Have you noticed that no matter how high you go the horizon is at eye-level? 

 

All the best 

Why?

What credence do I lend to space photos that NASA doesn't? It's not like people from Earth have not gone to space and come back with photos. 

You do know that you can travel around the Earth on a ship or a plane, right? Come back to the same spot. People have done this. 

 

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Watch a ship on the ocean, sometime, as it travels away from you. (Or even a car traveling away from you). 

Eventually, you won't see it anymore, and that's not because it drops off the edge of the Earth. 

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