cluey Posted July 27, 2017 #1 Share Posted July 27, 2017 This is very bad........ http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/fair-ride-accident-one-dead-several-badly-injured-after-malfunction/news-story/6884124ca2683711c72261f262bca273 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted July 27, 2017 #2 Share Posted July 27, 2017 these fair ride accidents are always bad. Very sad for the young lad who lost life and those badly injured...only one death here... when i see these horrendous accidents now it always reminds me of the Battersea disaster, https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/battersea-park-big-dipper-disaster-in-1972-the-funfair-tragedy-the-nation-forgot-10302238.html%3famp and there have been others. They call then accidents but are they more down to not being tested thoroughly because they wanted them open....not all did open that day, maybe this should have also been closed Quote Daniels, adding that four rides will not be operating because they do not meet the mechanical test. Ride inspectors said the Fire Ball ride was inspected at a couple of different stages and was signed off on Wednesday. http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/fair-ride-accident-one-dead-several-badly-injured-after-malfunction/news-story/6884124ca2683711c72261f262bca273 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 27, 2017 #3 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, freetoroam said: these fair ride accidents are always bad. Very sad for the young lad who lost life and those badly injured...only one death here.. Only one death so far. I was on scene last night for the 18 year old and by the looks of the car that detached, there may be more to come. Edited July 27, 2017 by Imaginarynumber1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted July 27, 2017 #4 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Only one death so far. I was on scene last night for the 18 year old and by the looks of the car that detached, there may be more to come. yes there are some in critical condition. It is shocking that these " accidents" still happen today, Quote Theme park accidents: How fun days out turned to tragedy http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/10/theme-park-accidents-fun-days-turned-tragedy/ there have been many "accidents" over the years. I know millions of people go on these rides, but there should be NO accidents due to faulty rides in todays day and age with all the H&S and past tragedies.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra. Posted July 27, 2017 #5 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, cluey said: This is very bad........ Well of course it's bad Cluey. Unfortunately, these type of tragic accidents often happen with theme park rides around the world...and it's mostly to do with either neglect or poor maintenance. You are also from Queensland right ?.....remember the 'Dreamworld' theme park tragedy that happened here late last year. In fact I think you commented in the thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluey Posted July 27, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted July 27, 2017 AAAWWWW....sweetie......i worked at Tiger Island 20 years ago at dreamworld.......i know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra. Posted July 27, 2017 #7 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, cluey said: AAAWWWW....sweetie......i worked at Tiger Island 20 years ago at dreamworld.......i know.... And your point is ? .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffSplitkins Posted July 27, 2017 #8 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Only one death so far. I was on scene last night for the 18 year old and by the looks of the car that detached, there may be more to come. Not a scene I would want to see. Question: The ride operator, did he/she seem competent to be running the ride or was it just another crackhead carnie? I know for a fact that the New York State Fair hires from local halfway houses etc for these rides to be assembled. 1 hour ago, Astra. said: And your point is ? .... Pretty sure she was responding to freetoroam. Sounds like someone needs a cup of coffee or a Snickers bar.... or maybe just a hug. Edited July 27, 2017 by BiffSplitkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluey Posted July 27, 2017 Author #9 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Astra. said: And your point is ? .... I created a thread that is relevant to every day news head lines.my having worked there 20 years ago for around 5 years ago was myself making a personal point on the joy i saw in people not only with the Bengal Tigers i could watch from my glass office all day,the dangers and high risk these rides at such theme parks are to maintain.The ride that unfortunate accident happened with was over 40 years old and myself,brother and friends had been on to many times to remember.Accidents happen.maintaining these rides are daily.they don't hire off the street people to run these rides. Edited July 27, 2017 by cluey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 27, 2017 #10 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just sayin.. there is a difference between theme parks and carnivals. Theme parks have permanently built in rides. Carnivals have mobile rides that they set up an take down to travel to the next show. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluey Posted July 27, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) here are some statistics.............. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusement_park_accidents Edited July 27, 2017 by cluey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted July 27, 2017 #12 Share Posted July 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, rashore said: Just sayin.. there is a difference between theme parks and carnivals. Theme parks have permanently built in rides. Carnivals have mobile rides that they set up an take down to travel to the next show. Yup a missing bolt here a missing safety lock there maybe some bad wiring. I got stuck on a ride once for 45 min nobody got hurt but it was damn uncomfortable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 27, 2017 #13 Share Posted July 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said: Yup a missing bolt here a missing safety lock there maybe some bad wiring. I got stuck on a ride once for 45 min nobody got hurt but it was damn uncomfortable. You lucked out indeed. I remember a couple of them from when I was a kid of the Zipper and the Flying Bobs ride when people got hurt.. they were still my favorite rides though, lol. Amusement parks and carnivals are definitely different. Even how the inspections are handled are different. Where an amusement park falls under some building regulations and inspections.. carnivals do not. Some states are really pretty loose with regulations, and don't require an inspection upon setup, some places are much tighter with inspections, especially at state fairs. Not necessarily for you ST, but some informational articles about carnival rides for folks in general to enjoy.... Public records unearth dangers with carnival rides: http://www.spj.org/rrr.asp?ref=28&t=foia Carnival Season: Just how safe are those rides?: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/05/carnival_season_just_how_safe.html And this great website, Amusement Safety Organization. It tracks all amusement ride accidents, both at amusement parks and with carnivals. It also tracks worker injuries and has a database of state agencies: http://amusementsafety.org/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted July 27, 2017 #14 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, rashore said: You lucked out indeed. I remember a couple of them from when I was a kid of the Zipper and the Flying Bobs ride when people got hurt.. they were still my favorite rides though, lol. Amusement parks and carnivals are definitely different. Even how the inspections are handled are different. Where an amusement park falls under some building regulations and inspections.. carnivals do not. Some states are really pretty loose with regulations, and don't require an inspection upon setup, some places are much tighter with inspections, especially at state fairs. Not necessarily for you ST, but some informational articles about carnival rides for folks in general to enjoy.... Public records unearth dangers with carnival rides: http://www.spj.org/rrr.asp?ref=28&t=foia Carnival Season: Just how safe are those rides?: http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/05/carnival_season_just_how_safe.html And this great website, Amusement Safety Organization. It tracks all amusement ride accidents, both at amusement parks and with carnivals. It also tracks worker injuries and has a database of state agencies: http://amusementsafety.org/ One of My friends worked as a "carny" for a few years back in the day, and he said he would never go on any of the rides. I use to love the Zipper myself. The ride I got stuck on was called the ocean motion. It stuck in a near vertical position that left my head and arms dangling. The people on the other side of the ride probably out of nervousness were laughing at us as they sat back and waited. I said keep it up I can spit on you and if you try to spit back it will fall back in your own face. Sounds kinda funny now. I got stuck on the ride at this park about a week before the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted July 27, 2017 #15 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 hours ago, BiffSplitkins said: Not a scene I would want to see. Question: The ride operator, did he/she seem competent to be running the ride or was it just another crackhead carnie? I know for a fact that the New York State Fair hires from local halfway houses etc for these rides to be assembled. I'm not sure. I haven't actually been to the fair in over a decade and I when I was there last night it was mainly highway patrol (the academy is there and they make recruits work the fair) and BCI. Its probably still to early to speculate what the cause of the accident was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted July 27, 2017 #16 Share Posted July 27, 2017 the cause in general was mechanical failure, pretty clear from the video,. but what exactly was the reason is unknown yet, could be metal fatigue, or a crack, or some one did not pay attention to bolt\nut marking and used wrong grade bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted July 27, 2017 #17 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Got stuck at the top of a giant ferris wheel with rotating cars for about 15-20 mins. That was enough. Edited July 27, 2017 by WoIverine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 27, 2017 #18 Share Posted July 27, 2017 5 hours ago, The Silver Thong said: Yup a missing bolt here a missing safety lock there maybe some bad wiring. I got stuck on a ride once for 45 min nobody got hurt but it was damn uncomfortable. I have no problem to drive with a car/motorbike at 300km/h, having a pulse rate of <85. But I would never, ever take a ride on such fair rides. Its not because I dont trust the constructors skills, its because I dont trust in the skills of the low paid people who assemble and operate them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted July 27, 2017 #19 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, toast said: I have no problem to drive with a car/motorbike at 300km/h, having a pulse rate of <85. But I would never, ever take a ride on such fair rides. Its not because I dont trust the constructors skills, its because I dont trust in the skills of the low paid people who assemble and operate them. I agree with the last part but I have to say I have never traveled 300 kph on a bike or a car. Death on wheels man, that's a death sentence. Not that I don't speed from time to time but wow. The max speed here is 120 kph. I do about 130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted July 28, 2017 #20 Share Posted July 28, 2017 9 hours ago, The Silver Thong said: One of My friends worked as a "carny" for a few years back in the day, and he said he would never go on any of the rides. I use to love the Zipper myself. The ride I got stuck on was called the ocean motion. It stuck in a near vertical position that left my head and arms dangling. The people on the other side of the ride probably out of nervousness were laughing at us as they sat back and waited. I said keep it up I can spit on you and if you try to spit back it will fall back in your own face. Sounds kinda funny now. I got stuck on the ride at this park about a week before the accident. *Hugs* I never go any "big rides" because I just don't like them. I rather ride a kiddie roller coaster then a loopy one. Plus I heard reports about a particular coaster at Kings Dominion. I think it was a new ride at the time? They kept having accidents and I never got on it or any other ride like it. They were too scary for me and still are. I'll stick to rides that KIDS can go on with older people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted July 28, 2017 #21 Share Posted July 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, Princess Serenity said: *Hugs* I never go any "big rides" because I just don't like them. I rather ride a kiddie roller coaster then a loopy one. Plus I heard reports about a particular coaster at Kings Dominion. I think it was a new ride at the time? They kept having accidents and I never got on it or any other ride like it. They were too scary for me and still are. I'll stick to rides that KIDS can go on with older people. Well I'm a bit scared of heights as of late so ya I stick to things closer to the ground like horses and motorbikes ok that doesn't sound safe either anyone up for a game of spin the bottle lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluey Posted July 28, 2017 Author #22 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The ride operators job is to stop a ride if there is a slight problem even.they then contact their superior to get an engineer to close the ride and run tests to ensure it is safe before re opening it.In the case of that Dreamworld accident....it was closed at 10am for over an hour....the deaths happened at 2pm.One of the biggest problems that any theme park has.....either a mobile carnival or not....is that people complain when a ride is closed for maintenace and demand their money back when they don't have to pay after entering the park.So they try their best to get ride up and running asap........most legit places keep a ride closed for as long as it takes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted July 28, 2017 #23 Share Posted July 28, 2017 If the breaks on my car don't work and the shop say's it will take six hours I don't push them. However ya these guys at a carnival or otherwise are under pressure to get things moving. That's a recipe for a mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiffSplitkins Posted July 28, 2017 #24 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Looking at all the oxidization at the break point, my guess is that this ride was not inspected very well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted July 28, 2017 #25 Share Posted July 28, 2017 That's a great pic Biff... where did it come from? The break looks awful. And for folks an update out of CNN stating the ride had passed multiple inspections: http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/us/ohio-state-fair-ride-disaster/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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