ChrLzs Posted August 1, 2017 #26 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Reilly. said: What do you think "WONKY" means. For ****sake. Youre Australian, like a couple of you are, so don't pretend you don't understand the parlance. It means "odd" or "unsual" or "off." You know "not normal" and what I posted above was the result of the DNA test and it was "unsual" just like I said. I'm leaving the forum anyway. I am tired of the hostility and bull****. You can't talk to you people like you would another civil human being without being accused off stuff and treated like ****. Wallow in your ignorance. I've got better ways to spend my free time. Nice. Don't let the door hit ya - and it's good to see how you set the high standard right from the start with your clickbait. Now we're up to the adhominems, I see.... You posted clickbait, then false information which you haven't even acknowledged, and cited a clearly tinfoilhat website. Me, if I'd got the (richly deserved) response you did, I'd be apologising and checking the mirror. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted August 1, 2017 #27 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Oh crap, now where will I get my geocities news from. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly. Posted August 1, 2017 Author #28 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, ChrLzs said: Nice. Don't let the door hit ya - and it's good to see how you set the high standard right from the start with your clickbait. Now we're up to the adhominems, I see.... You posted clickbait, then false information which you haven't even acknowledged, and cited a clearly tinfoilhat website. Me, if I'd got the (richly deserved) response you did, I'd be apologising and checking the mirror. I'm not going to apologize to people who have the manners of troglodytes. You demand information, I do a quick google search (don't bother reading the whole website, because I've been working all day and can't be ****ed and I just assume it would spark some interesting talk) and I am supposed to grovel and apologize. What I said is true. There HAVE been cases where implants with unusual properties have been removed from the human body (multiple). There have been cases where we have video of the thing moving in the body while they're trying to remove and other stuff. This isn't rare or difficult to find if you have a genuine interest. Its obviously youre more interested in disproving everything without even taking a minute to honestly look into it. Put yourself in my shoes for damn minute. I've been shunned by the woo community for being "too critical" over the years. I'm accused of being an idiot by the hoaxing community like Dyer. So I dox myself, show that I am a member of mensa australia, show my qualifications, show my military history and I'm treated like ****. But I have a genuine interest in this stuff, I've got six ****ing bookshelves with stuff and over 160 DVDs on various paranormal and unexplained phenomena. So I think, hey, I will come on, make some chat. Have some fun and instead I am accused of being too WOO by the skeptics here. People who demand I magically conjure all knowledge I have in source format and post it with blinding clarity at 3am after a long day of work. I'm accused of being a liar, I'm accused of being dishonest... like I have somekind of malevolent motivation. I give my precious spare time (which is very ****ing limited) to people because I think we're having a casual conversation and really its people trying to build a ****ing case against anything I say, which is then carried across multiple threads. Like, **** off. Seriously. Then you have the gall to demand an apology from me. I'm sorry I do not have the sum total of my paranormal knowledge filed away in manila folders so I can source and timestamp every ****ing statement I make. But that doesn't mean everything I say is **** or motivated by some need to deceive people. It would be one thing if someone said: "Oh, didn't you hear. Expert X revisited the test results in 2015 and this was the explanation." I'd be like, "Oh, cool. Sorry. I did not know. I'll look into that because it sounds interesting." Its another thing all together, when I say "What about when they've pulled extra-terrestrial (not originating on earth) material out of people in their implants?" and then people say "source or didn't happen." Like, I'm supposed to remember every damn thing instantly or I somehow gain something by lying people. I do a quick (30 second) google search and post the first thing I found and I'm given **** about. It doesn't mean there are no cases, it doesn't mean I'm a liar or Geocities is the only source of information. Like, imagine if some **** asked you to ask you about page 37 of the dictionary. We've all read it, have to in primary school, but could you mention every ****ing word on the page from memory, what if we didn't have the same dictionary, but it doesn't matter. Clearly the word I am using doesn't exist and I'm mistaken and a liar. Like seriously, if someone has a genuine ****ing interest or any real knowledge on the subject, they'd be able to discuss cases themselves instead of demanding I hand them things to debunk so they can end discussion. The whole purpose of this thread is that over the years I've seen quite a lot evidence (albeit circumstantial) but I see people insisting there is none, ever, anywhere. So, I wanted to know... if something did happen... what could you do? I've seen landing sites be analyzed and shown to have radioactive material. I've seen non-earth metals removed from people. And bringing it back to the pube (of all things), how do you think that it is not unusual at all... not even worth conversation... that the pubic hair came from Blond Asians. So there's this guy. He claims to have been raped by aliens. They check the four pubes and they're from a rare (virtually non-existent) branch of Chinese womens. What happened, was this guy abducted by a roaming band of blond asians and gang-banged in a studio set, then drugged and returned to his wife? Is that anymore ****ing ordinary a situation? Like, we could have had a fun speculative conversation about aliens of human origin or how it could have happened. But instead, instead you ****s attacked me, fired shots at me. Meanwhile, since yesterday I've gotten PMs from 4 different people saying "I don't feel like I can talk about stuff here" and thats pretty ****ed up for what it SUPPOSED to be a forum about the unexplained. Like, I don't give a **** if you don't believe, but at least listen and stop acting like *******s. What if someone had a genuine experience and wanted to discuss it? Of course, in your mind, they're automatically a lying **** because they challenge the paradigm you've established right? You're the same people that tried telling me that the radiation on the Crash-Landrum car and their cancer was just a coincidence and I should ignore physical evidence because clearly they were just "whacky old broads." And you expect me to apologize to you. Its embarrassing. No empathy, no human decency, no basic etiquette. Just close-minded hostility. Its one thing to discuss an idea and disprove it through logic and reason, its another to act like an ******* and try to discredit someone because you dont want to put in any effort understanding them. Edited August 1, 2017 by Reilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 1, 2017 #29 Share Posted August 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Reilly. said: I'm not going to apologize to people who have the manners of troglodytes. You demand information, I do a quick google search (don't bother reading the whole website, because I've been working all day and can't be ****ed and I just assume it would spark some interesting talk) and I am supposed to grovel and apologize. What I said is true. There HAVE been cases where implants with unusual properties have been removed from the human body (multiple). There have been cases where we have video of the thing moving in the body while they're trying to remove and other stuff. This isn't rare or difficult to find if you have a genuine interest. Its obviously youre more interested in disproving everything without even taking a minute to honestly look into it. Put yourself in my shoes for damn minute. I've been shunned by the woo community for being "too critical" over the years. I'm accused of being an idiot by the hoaxing community like Dyer. So I dox myself, show that I am a member of mensa australia, show my qualifications, show my military history and I'm treated like ****. But I have a genuine interest in this stuff, I've got six ****ing bookshelves with stuff and over 160 DVDs on various paranormal and unexplained phenomena. So I think, hey, I will come on, make some chat. Have some fun and instead I am accused of being too WOO by the skeptics here. People who demand I magically conjure all knowledge I have in source format and post it with blinding clarity at 3am after a long day of work. I'm accused of being a liar, I'm accused of being dishonest... like I have somekind of malevolent motivation. I give my precious spare time (which is very ****ing limited) to people because I think we're having a casual conversation and really its people trying to build a ****ing case against anything I say, which is then carried across multiple threads. Like, **** off. Seriously. Then you have the gall to demand an apology from me. I'm sorry I do not have the sum total of my paranormal knowledge filed away in manila folders so I can source and timestamp every ****ing statement I make. But that doesn't mean everything I say is **** or motivated by some need to deceive people. It would be one thing if someone said: "Oh, didn't you hear. Expert X revisited the test results in 2015 and this was the explanation." I'd be like, "Oh, cool. Sorry. I did not know. I'll look into that because it sounds interesting." Its another thing all together, when I say "What about when they've pulled extra-terrestrial (not originating on earth) material out of people in their implants?" and then people say "source or didn't happen." Like, I'm supposed to remember every damn thing instantly or I somehow gain something by lying people. I do a quick (30 second) google search and post the first thing I found and I'm given **** about. It doesn't mean there are no cases, it doesn't mean I'm a liar or Geocities is the only source of information. Like, imagine if some **** asked you to ask you about page 37 of the dictionary. We've all read it, have to in primary school, but could you mention every ****ing word on the page from memory, what if we didn't have the same dictionary, but it doesn't matter. Clearly the word I am using doesn't exist and I'm mistaken and a liar. Like seriously, if someone has a genuine ****ing interest or any real knowledge on the subject, they'd be able to discuss cases themselves instead of demanding I hand them things to debunk so they can end discussion. The whole purpose of this thread is that over the years I've seen quite a lot evidence (albeit circumstantial) but I see people insisting there is none, ever, anywhere. So, I wanted to know... if something did happen... what could you do? I've seen landing sites be analyzed and shown to have radioactive material. I've seen non-earth metals removed from people. And bringing it back to the pube (of all things), how do you think that it is not unusual at all... not even worth conversation... that the pubic hair came from Blond Asians. So there's this guy. He claims to have been raped by aliens. They check the four pubes and they're from a rare (virtually non-existent) branch of Chinese womens. What happened, was this guy abducted by a roaming band of blond asians and gang-banged in a studio set, then drugged and returned to his wife? Is that anymore ****ing ordinary a situation? Like, we could have had a fun speculative conversation about aliens of human origin or how it could have happened. But instead, instead you ****s attacked me, fired shots at me. Meanwhile, since yesterday I've gotten PMs from 4 different people saying "I don't feel like I can talk about stuff here" and thats pretty ****ed up for what it SUPPOSED to be a forum about the unexplained. Like, I don't give a **** if you don't believe, but at least listen and stop acting like *******s. What if someone had a genuine experience and wanted to discuss it? Of course, in your mind, they're automatically a lying **** because they challenge the paradigm you've established right? You're the same people that tried telling me that the radiation on the Crash-Landrum car and their cancer was just a coincidence and I should ignore physical evidence because clearly they were just "whacky old broads." And you expect me to apologize to you. Its embarrassing. No empathy, no human decency, no basic etiquette. Just close-minded hostility. Its one thing to discuss an idea and disprove it through logic and reason, its another to act like an ******* and try to discredit someone because you dont want to put in any effort understanding them. I just thought that the context you used 'wonky' had more negative/sinister connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reilly. Posted August 1, 2017 Author #30 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Just now, Timonthy said: I just thought that the context you used 'wonky' had more negative/sinister connotations. Nah man, I just thought it was unusual. I'm not "railing" at you anyway. You seemed civil. Anyway, the only reason I am replying is because everytime someone quotes me it sends a message to my e-mail inbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted August 1, 2017 #31 Share Posted August 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Reilly. said: Nah man, I just thought it was unusual. I'm not "railing" at you anyway. You seemed civil. Anyway, the only reason I am replying is because everytime someone quotes me it sends a message to my e-mail inbox. You can change it to just give you a daily email if that helps. In the settings somewhere... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 1, 2017 #32 Share Posted August 1, 2017 6 hours ago, ChrLzs said: Nice. Don't let the door hit ya - and it's good to see how you set the high standard right from the start with your clickbait. Now we're up to the adhominems, I see.... You posted clickbait, then false information which you haven't even acknowledged, and cited a clearly tinfoilhat website. Me, if I'd got the (richly deserved) response you did, I'd be apologising and checking the mirror. Seriously. There's a reason I ignore that user's posts, and it has to do with a "wonky" private message. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishing the Styx Posted August 1, 2017 #33 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Well to get back to the topic of what if you had proof of alien whatever and who to contact. Now just hypothetically say you were first and only person to find a small crashed alien ship. Myself I would take a bunch of pictures with my phone and pick up anything odd and high Tec thing I could carry out. now let me adjust my tinfoil hat, I would copy the pictures multiple times a keep them in separate locations as well as the stuff I took and just keep a thing or two and pictures handy. Last thing I would do is call the US Gov. You never know what that could lead to and I'll leave It at that. I think your best bet would be to get the pictures to multiple sources to get it released and have back up plan to get it released if you happen to slip a fall in the bathtub 4-5 times. The fiscal evidence would require a lot more thought to move it to a believable lab before anybody knew what was up. And last stay anonymous as long as possible. Edited August 1, 2017 by Fishing the Styx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted August 1, 2017 #34 Share Posted August 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Fishing the Styx said: Well to get back to the topic of what if you had proof of alien whatever and who to contact. Now just hypothetically say you were first and only person to find a small crashed alien ship. Myself I would take a bunch of pictures with my phone and pick up anything odd and high Tec thing I could carry out. now let me adjust my tinfoil hat, I would copy the pictures multiple times a keep them in separate locations as well as the stuff I took and just keep a thing or two and pictures handy. Last thing I would do is call the US Gov. You never know what that could lead to and I'll leave It at that. I think your best bet would be to get the pictures to multiple sources to get it released and have back up plan to get it released if you happen to slip a fall in the bathtub 4-5 times. The fiscal evidence would require a lot more thought to move it to a believable lab before anybody knew what was up. And last stay anonymous as long as possible. Just a quick addition - if you check around you will be surprised to find out just how easy it is to get things like dna/chemical/metallurgical tests done properly and in confidence - there are lots of commercial labs out there and they are not (cannot be) controlled by the gov't. And as you alluded, with the new age of the Interwebz, you can easily spread copies of images, lab reports etc around in such a way as to ensure the news could not be suppressed. What is hard, though, is to fake properly done scientific tests - even here at UM there are lots of people who are well schooled in what these reports should include. I'm no dna expert, but you wouldn't want to try to pass a faked chemical assay past me.. The easiest way to explain the lack of evidence is simple - the aliens have never visited us and are not (yet) visiting us. Given the likely rarity of life and the incredible distances and times involved, they probably never will, but you never know until the day.. I remain hopeful. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted August 2, 2017 #35 Share Posted August 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Fishing the Styx said: Well to get back to the topic of what if you had proof of alien whatever and who to contact. Now just hypothetically say you were first and only person to find a small crashed alien ship. Myself I would take a bunch of pictures with my phone and pick up anything odd and high Tec thing I could carry out. now let me adjust my tinfoil hat, I would copy the pictures multiple times a keep them in separate locations as well as the stuff I took and just keep a thing or two and pictures handy. Last thing I would do is call the US Gov. You never know what that could lead to and I'll leave It at that. I think your best bet would be to get the pictures to multiple sources to get it released and have back up plan to get it released if you happen to slip a fall in the bathtub 4-5 times. The fiscal evidence would require a lot more thought to move it to a believable lab before anybody knew what was up. And last stay anonymous as long as possible. Wouldn't the responsible thing to do be reporting it to your local Planetary Protection Officer? Quote ... The gig? Help defend planet Earth from alien contamination, and also help Earth not contaminate alien worlds that it's trying to explore. ... While many space agencies hire planetary protection officers, they're often shared or part-time roles. In fact, only two such full-time roles exist in the world: One at NASA and the other at the European Space Agency. ... https://www.inc.com/business-insider/nasa-is-hiring-a-planetary-protection-officer-2017.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newton fletcher Posted August 2, 2017 #36 Share Posted August 2, 2017 This is a most relevant article on the myth about alien sightings and claims, which I read a few years back, I think aliens have never visited the eath ever before. Could possibly do so in the future. Aliens on Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 2, 2017 #37 Share Posted August 2, 2017 It makes a good story, but might not make good sense in the universe. You can rightfully claim that aliens move in mysterious ways. I can't dispute that. If they are a bit like us and want to make contact, they will be very public about it, not entrusting their message to a selected few individuals. If they don't want to be found, they will not risk returning study subjects and risk detection twice for every snatch and grab. Abductees remains would be cadavers headed toward the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted August 2, 2017 #38 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Quote Quote There HAVE been cases where implants with unusual properties have been removed from the human body (multiple). There have been cases where we have video of the thing moving in the body while they're trying to remove and other stuff. This isn't rare or difficult to find if you have a genuine interest. Its obviously youre more interested in disproving everything without even taking a minute to honestly look into it. That is not true at all. There have been times when comments of that sort have been made. The problem is that the comments were incorrect. I've already posted material about these mistaken claims. The problem is that you are posting stories without honestly looking into them. You post some story without taking the time to find out what it is all about. Quote It would be one thing if someone said: That is what is happening. Posters here back up their statements. I did in the case of the implants. Still you post an off the cuff remark that there is something unusual happening. Not the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted August 2, 2017 #39 Share Posted August 2, 2017 If i had proof of alien life i would tell EVER RE BODY. Every news paper ( no exclusives, unless the money was right), the government, NASA, planetary societies and i would convince the alien life to back me up on my claims....summissing it was not a plant , planktom, insect or non English or human speaking thing. but this is just a story, aliens in flying saucers have not visited our planet and are not among us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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