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So it appears we're back at this again. Here's some new recent videos made about this particular subject that I just found to be interesting.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yy2KhgC4st4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JHj04CJXt7k

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Wg6QpqesE

So here's some new points I'm hearing from the Nibiru crowd

1.) The end is either on September 23rd, 2017 or October 2017 (other sources say 2018). 

2.) They use Isaiah 24:1 as proof from the Bible that God will cause a geological/axial pole shift.

3.) They also use the sun setting northwest as evidence

 

4.) They say the shadows on the moon are facing differently every night.

5.) They say the Eclipse wasn't caused by the moon but rather by this mysterious planet or you'd be able to see this planet during the eclipse (I don't think this happened). 

6.) They claim that Chemtrails are being used to cover-up the planet from view, though it's funny how the other planets are completely unaffected by this and are still visible in the sky. 

7.) They claim that Planet Xena (look it up) that in 2005, NASA deemed as our "10th planet" is actually Nibiru/"Wormwood" from the Bible.

And there's probably a few more, but that's what I've gathered thus far. Anyone?

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43 minutes ago, stereologist said:

The killer planet s told by numerous doom porn sellers is a pretty stale idea. Despite that there are a new bunch of gullible people with wallets to pry open every year and so the rather dubious stories continue.

The first thing to understand is that a new planet would be easily spotted. There are numerous large scopes and tens of thousands of private scopes looking into space. Planets cannot hide. They reflect sunlight. Project Pan-STARRS could pick up an Earth sized planet out over 200AU. That's 200 times the distance from her to the Sun or 50x the distance out to Pluto. No sneaking up on us. I suppose that there will be some kook to claim that all universities and government sites are part of a conspiracy. Well obviously someone is not otherwise the kooks would not have knowledge of this incoming fantasy of theirs.

They pick the end within a month or so. Notice that Mars can be seen with the unaided eye. It's smaller than the Earth. A close by planet could be seen without a telescope. The kooks pushing the doom porn pretend that the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers are no wiser. They are. I'm not one and I see the planets.

1. A joke. The planet would have been seen with telescopes months ago.

2. Another joke. Pole shifts cannot happen. It's an old idea that is  not possible. Geological studies show no pole shifts in the last 200My. There was one they believe about 800Mya. It moved at a whopping 15m a year if I recall correctly.

3. The Sun sets exactly as it should. If the Sun were setting in the wrong place it would mean that the tilt of the Earth was wrong. Polaris would not be the north star. Still  is. I checked a few nights ago. A tilt would change lots f things include the tides. No reports from fishermen or harbor masters.

4. The shadows of the Moon are not changing. This is just one of those stories people tell to people that don't know better. Changing shadows means that the Moon is not where it should be or is rotating. If the Moon's position were off it would be immediately noticed by every astronomer.

5. The eclipse was predicted decades ago. If it were this mysterious planet then why was the Moon exactly where it was supposed to be when it was supposed to  be?

6. Chemtrails is the dumbest story ever. It even beats crop circles for stupidity. As you suggest my skies have been clear enough to view whatever I wanted to view.

7. Xena is a TNO, look it  up, It is one of many TNOs that are known. Is it a planet? NO. It's a TNO.

 

This is a great refutation of these stupid arguments. 

But I couldn't help but notice how they always drag these no-name scientists like Immanuel Velikovsky and Professor James McCanney to add further credence to their argument. 

Also they quite often cite the already dismissed quack known as Zecharias Sitchin.

What are your thoughts on these?

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A New Planet In Our Solar System? NASA Takes A Look

 

 

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2 hours ago, Turinabol said:

So here's some new points I'm hearing from the Nibiru crowd

 

 

The Nibiru crowd?   Try searching the NASA crowd in future :tu:

Im sure theres a fairy crowd out there too on youtube.... who will state the existence of fairies too

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They come out with the same stuff every to every two years.
Still nothing has happened. And by pure logic, if this planet was real and was so close to Earth by now, we should be able to see it with our eyes due to its size.

I do not believe in the existence of a planet called Nibiru that will crash with Earth.
But there might be a big planet somewhere in our galaxy, sure, why not.

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The world can't end on September the 23rd..... I'm going on a date on the 24th!

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1 hour ago, AlienzTruth said:

But there might be a big planet somewhere in our galaxy, sure, why not.

Thats a funny statement, especially from an UFO head like you. On the one hand you feel well preapred to talk about ETs, UFOs, alien abductions and the whole pile of related BS as a believer of that matter but on the other hand you placed above statement that indicate that your level of unawareness of even very common facts is deficient at the highest degree possible. But FYI: there are billions of big planets in our galaxy, billions.

Furthermore, your statement lead me to the question: does "to be open minded" means to be ignorant and, somehow, stupid?

On 20.8.2017 at 5:13 PM, AlienzTruth said:

@toast

Well, it's very good to be skeptic to things but important to be open minded as well.

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Toast, I stopped talking to you because you don't understand what I meant.
It's ok.

Ps. I'm not a believer when it comes to UFO's and ET's (abductions etc) I know for a fact these things are real.
 

I don't know sh.t about Nibiru, I'm only stating what my opinion is and what I believe.
SORRYYYYYY

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24 minutes ago, AlienzTruth said:

Ps. I'm not a believer when it comes to UFO's and ET's (abductions etc) I know for a fact these things are real.

You know for certain? You have the implants or were abducted? 

I've been waiting ages for proof, can you share yours? 

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28 minutes ago, AlienzTruth said:

I know for a fact these things are real.

Sure.

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7 hours ago, Turinabol said:

This is a great refutation of these stupid arguments. 

But I couldn't help but notice how they always drag these no-name scientists like Immanuel Velikovsky and Professor James McCanney to add further credence to their argument. 

Also they quite often cite the already dismissed quack known as Zecharias Sitchin.

What are your thoughts on these?

Velikovsky wrote some books. In one of them which I did read, he describes a series of events he claims were recorded in historical writings. He says Venus popped out of Jupiter and traveled through the inner solar system and Mars does this and that. He bases all of this on his own interpretations of ancient writings.  You probably want to read a synopsis someplace so you know what people are talking about. The problem is the physics. It fails. Sagan and others pointed this out long ago.

Sitchin also made up things. He gives a kooky reason for aliens from another planet hopping over here to Earth to mine gold.

I guess when all of the stories make no sense you can only make use of the few kooks there are such as Velikovsky and Sitchin.

The dumbest idea of all is that the reason for not seeing an approaching planet is that it is coming straight at the South Pole. I heard that dumb story every other week in 2012 times.

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I thought it would be instructive to show far back this stupidity goes. Here are comments from 2007.

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/earth243.htm

" The Sun came up to the left of my neighbor's roof.. Never seen that in 14 years, not even in June. What in the world is going on? "

The compass comment just means that the person did not correct for what is known as declination.

Here are comments from 2010

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_earthchanges31.htm

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An increasing number of people around the world have witnessed amazing changes in the location of Sun rise and set in summer and winter. Apparently this is being caused by the earth moving below the old ecliptic plane in summer and above it in winter!

 

The moon is also playing rodeo all over the sky....and the media says nothing.

Comments from 2009

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sunrise-wobble-pattern

This kook claims Polaris is no longer the north star in 2016.

https://investmentwatchblog.com/sun-is-about-17-degrees-too-far-north-north-star-has-moved-east-about-4-degrees/

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Thanks for bringing up the kook named James McCanney. Turinabol, I'm interested in what sort of wacko ideas people put out there and this guy should know better.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/mccanney/index.html

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He has lots of theories, and he will talk about them endlessly. However, he says these things without the benefit of being right. I have run into a lot of pseudoscientists saying wrong things in my time, but McCanney is neck-and-neck with Richard Hoagland for being the wrongest. His theories are not just bad, they're truly awful, just as wrong as they could be. In fact, he's so far off base that's it's easy to show just where his theories fall apart (basically, at square one); and I'll be happy to show you the details.

He claims to have a real education, but it seems to have failed him as he proposes nonsensical and easily disproved ideas.

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4 hours ago, stereologist said:

Thanks for bringing up the kook named James McCanney. Turinabol, I'm interested in what sort of wacko ideas people put out there and this guy should know better.

 

He claims to have a real education, but it seems to have failed him as he proposes nonsensical and easily disproved ideas.

Heres one image they're claiming as nibiru.

 

Here's another claim

"The sun in our solar system is similar to 90% of the solar systems in the Milky Way Galaxy, all part of a binary star system containing two or more suns. The Planet X system can be considered a mini-constellation consisting of our sun's twin, classified a brown dwarf star called Nemesis. This dark star is largely invisible even with infrared due to its surrounding red iron oxide dust clouds. Nemesis possesses at least three planets that revolve around it, Nibiru and Helion both with moons, and Arboda. Though Nibiru travels along an elliptical shaped orbit and enters our solar system approximately every 3600 years, one by one crossing the orbits of our solar system planets, it does not revolve around our sun."

source:

https://www.sott.net/article/298701-Is-life-as-we-know-it-going-to-end-The-scientific-case-for-Nibiru-Planet-X-that-will-not-go-away

You can read more there. 

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Other sources claim that this planet is whats causing global warming, rising sea levels, and the extreme weather patterns we're seeing now. 

And there's also two other people I'd like to mention, David Meade and John Moore. Both of these people also claim that Planet X is out there. 

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Yeah Meade's current prediction is 9/23/2017....These are nothing but fear mongers trying to sell books...And their whacked out ideas only make them look more stupid every time one of these predictions fail....I could go on even longer rant about this but I digress. The below video is from 2012.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Alien Prophet said:

Yeah Meade's current prediction is 9/23/2017....These are nothing but fear mongers trying to sell books...And their whacked out ideas only make them look more stupid every time one of these predictions fail....I could go on even longer rant about this but I digress. The below video is from 2012.

 

 

9/23/2017.... well that's okay, we don't have 23 months in a year.

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The image looks like a rare atmospheric effect called atmospheric lensing. Here is the NASA take on the photo.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090804.html

The binary system claim is a load of crap. Only about a third of stars like our Sun are in binary systems. The Nemesis story is a failed idea. There are plenty of scientific proposals that have failed. That's okay. ideas are proposed, tested, and challenged. Nemesis did not work out, neither did Tyche.  A solar companion should have been picked up by the WISE mission it was not.

If you read the Nemesis link you see that the basis for the search is the repeated extinctions. That cycle has been shown to be incorrect further undermining the Nemesis idea. Notice that the article is from 2010 and expected a resolution of the Nemesis issue in 2013.

Even though Nemesis was never found and its basis shown to be  incorrect the sott article goes on to claim properties including a "cloaking field" and 3 planets. That's just farcical.

The elliptical orbit claim for Nibiru is a failure. Why? Highly elliptical orbits are not stable. As a planet in such an orbit asses by the Sun it transfers momentum from the Sun to the planet. This moves the planet farther out from the Sun. Earth moves about 15m a year from the Sun. Our Moon moves away from the Earth about 2cm a year. A planet in a highly elliptical orbit changes much more. It is moved to a more circular orbit or ends up being ejected from the solar system.

The idea that a planet from another star can cross into our system and not be captured is just ludicrous. Orbits are not fixed tracks. Orbits are due to the sum of the forces acting on the planet. A planet coming by our Sun will be acted upon by our Sun.

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Posted (edited)

Yeah, I've noticed someone asked Gary McKinnon about this Planet X hype. Here's what this genious NASA hacker had to say.

 

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That coupled with the fact that Jupiters gravity would send it sprawling into who knows where. Good post stereologist there are some things there that I did not know. McKinnon makes some good points as well.

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Seriously?? Just nope.

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6 hours ago, stereologist said:

The image looks like a rare atmospheric effect called atmospheric lensing. Here is the NASA take on the photo.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090804.html

The binary system claim is a load of crap. Only about a third of stars like our Sun are in binary systems. The Nemesis story is a failed idea. There are plenty of scientific proposals that have failed. That's okay. ideas are proposed, tested, and challenged. Nemesis did not work out, neither did Tyche.  A solar companion should have been picked up by the WISE mission it was not.

If you read the Nemesis link you see that the basis for the search is the repeated extinctions. That cycle has been shown to be incorrect further undermining the Nemesis idea. Notice that the article is from 2010 and expected a resolution of the Nemesis issue in 2013.

Even though Nemesis was never found and its basis shown to be  incorrect the sott article goes on to claim properties including a "cloaking field" and 3 planets. That's just farcical.

The elliptical orbit claim for Nibiru is a failure. Why? Highly elliptical orbits are not stable. As a planet in such an orbit asses by the Sun it transfers momentum from the Sun to the planet. This moves the planet farther out from the Sun. Earth moves about 15m a year from the Sun. Our Moon moves away from the Earth about 2cm a year. A planet in a highly elliptical orbit changes much more. It is moved to a more circular orbit or ends up being ejected from the solar system.

The idea that a planet from another star can cross into our system and not be captured is just ludicrous. Orbits are not fixed tracks. Orbits are due to the sum of the forces acting on the planet. A planet coming by our Sun will be acted upon by our Sun.

Oh, and I forgot. There's one more argument I'd like to bring up.

if the Nibiru thing is false, I wonder why there's over a thousand underground government bunkers worldwide? I wonder why they're sending food and using billions of our tax dollars to build these things? 

I heard from one Nibiru source that when Donald Rumsfeld talked about 2.3 trillion dollars that had vanished from the Defense Department's budget over a few years during a congressional inquiry, and 9/11 happening just 1 or 2 days afterwards. 

Then you had Ron Paul asking the Federal Reserve for an audit on the gold, because the gold at Fort Knox was rumored to be gone. Which it apparently is. Why? 

And also, why is it that we cannot request through the senate or the congress for an audit on all the Federal Reserve gold, that is supposedly in Fort Knox?

Also, during the time of the economic crisis of around 2008 or 2010, when Greece was about to declare bankruptcy, the Federal Reserve had to lend money to the IMF, or else it was all going to crash. At around this same time, Germany and many other nations had come forward and asked the Federal Reserve the same thing Ron Paul had asked. They needed an audit on the gold because they needed to get it back from out of Fort Knox to stabilize the financial situation, but the FedReserve told Germany and those other foreign banks that they couldn't have any of the billions and billions of dollars of gold bullion that they had gave to them. 

What about all the money disappearing out of Washington? 

Why are food trucks being delivered en masse to government facilities?

Not saying Nibiru is real, but what could this have to do with do you think?

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8 minutes ago, Turinabol said:

I heard from one Nibiru source that when Donald Rumsfeld talked about 2.3 trillion dollars that had vanished from the Defense Department's budget over a few years during a congressional inquiry,

 

 

Next time you post such 'facts'  please provide a link to sources that back you up....seems you are too involved with conspiracy websites/vids

Heres some facts
 

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Short Explanation

The money was not missing, just not tracked to acceptable accounting standards. Eventually sorted out how it was spent, and what they got for it.

Truth behind the quote?

As it stands the "cannot track" quote was true. But $2.3 trillion was never missing. The interpretation of the quote does of course have some grain of truth in it. Millions, maybe even billions of dollars "go missing" after a fashion due to accounting discrepancies - and perhaps even some illegal actions. But it certainly is not $2,300 Billion.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-trillion-missing-from-the-pentagon.t165/


 

 

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17 minutes ago, seeder said:

 

Next time you post such 'facts'  please provide a link to sources that back you up....seems you are too involved with conspiracy websites/vids

Heres some facts
 

 

Here's the source.

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25 minutes ago, Turinabol said:

Here's the source.

 

OK what I meant was who was the uploader, found underneath any vid?   Never-mind I name him below and provide a link to his other crazy vids


Wayne Levi Price - Tribulation Saints

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDL60CigDGttBcBM2DW-FEQ

 

 

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