Uncle Sam Posted October 13, 2017 #1 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Here is where I stand in as a United States citizen when it comes to the shape of our nation, you may participate in this discussion by posting your views on current issues that is plaguing our nation, just answer all the questions truthfully and honestly. Political Party: independent Constitutionalist Dominate Religion or Non-religion: None/Atheist Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? No because they already prove to me and others that they don’t respect the laws of this nation and look down on the citizens of this nation. Forging identities, abusing social services, and demanding United States citizens to cater to their needs only further ads grievances they caused. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Absolutely, they deserve to become citizens more than the illegal immigrants do; they have gone through the proper channels and waited patiently in line like the others. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No because the constitution was created for the citizens of this nation. If they are not willing to go through proper channels to become a citizen of this nation, they are not worthy of these protects the constitution provides. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? My answer to his question is a definite no. By giving them the right to vote, this gives foreign nations the ability to influence our elections and alter our nation’s future. Since they don’t know how to speak or read our nation’s language, this means they shouldn’t be able to drive in our nation. Majority of the signs are only in English language and this can easily lead to fatalities on the road. As for the subject of land ownership, this is a privilege that is only given to the citizens of this nation. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? This is something that should have been done a long time ago. Our nation’s leaders have for far too long let this issue grow to the point that every citizen is impacted by illegal immigrants in some way or another, situations ranging from being victims of criminal acts or becoming unemployed because they were replaced by illegal immigrant. Was It Right To End DACA? I believe it is the right thing to do, because this policy encourages more illegal immigrants to come here with their children in hope that this policy protects them from being deported. This is practically Baby Anchor 2.0 where immigrants can live here as long as their children is in college, the only difference is, that they don’t need to have their children born as a United States citizen. Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? Let’s be realistic, this goal won’t completely eliminate all illegal immigration at all, but it will slow the tide of immigrants to the point we can effectively gain some degree of control. If we keep the border open for illegal immigrants to walk across anytime they please, we are purposely leaving a point of entry that our enemies could exploit. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? Globalization can lead to destruction of nation’s national identity and the culture to be completely wiped out, not only would this come to pass, but the indigenous population would effectively be completely replaced to the point United States isn’t United States anymore. Globalization destroys nations instead of builds nation’s up. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? It doesn’t help minorities at all, matter of fact; it makes matters worse for minorities. When you give a minority a job or position that they didn’t earn, you are setting them up to fail and this effectively eliminate any chance of them gaining a decent future. This outcome also happens in college across United States when entry scores are lowered for the minorities, they end up completely overwhelmed by college courses because they are not educated enough to learn high level classes. Do You Believe in White Privilege? As of the moment, there isn’t any white privilege. Being white doesn’t automatically give you a better chance of making it in today’s society. It used to exist in the past, but it doesn’t exist anymore because society itself doesn’t view whites as the superior race anymore. The completely opposite is true though, with liberal left running society today, they discriminate against whites overwhelmingly and constantly berate them to the point they resent them. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? This is a resounding yes on my part. The liberal left and conservative right media has twisted the facts to suit their agenda, this includes every aspect of our society to the point it is hard to know the truth. Ever since the recent election though, the liberal left media has been peddling falsehoods and lies nonstop; they been effectively trying to paint whites, conservatives, independents, and the president as the bad guys while simultaneously putting themselves on a pedal stool as saviors of our nation. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? Racism was on the fast track to dying out until Liberals started painting everyone who opposing them as racist or white supremacist. Only reason we are seeing a slow resurgent is because whites are starting to resent minorities unfairly targeting them in a campaign to paint all whites as the bad guys. Most racism today happens to be minorities targeting whites, discrimination and outright denying their rights, this is leading to tension which we see today. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? Of course they deserve to have the protection of the constitution and deserve rights as much as the next guy, the problem though is that the rights they are asking for infringes upon other’s rights. A person rights doesn’t given them the ability to trample on another’s rights. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Just like the illegal immigrants, foreigners don’t deserve protect by the constitution, they only have the basic universal rights granted to them. Giving foreigners the right the vote is asking for another nation to meddle in our election and shape our future. Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? This is a big no, because our founding fathers believed our nation should be secular and our nation’s laws are neutral. No religion should ever be held above the others, no religion deserves special privileges by the government, and religion does not deserve the right to oppress others. If we allowed religion to make laws and govern our actions as a nation, we could end up as a theocracy or dictatorship that oppresses the citizens of this nation. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? Same reason religion does not deserve to make laws. When it comes to the creation of our laws; our laws shouldn’t affect another person based on their race, politics, religion, or disability. By allowing atheism to dictate a nation’s laws, we could end up as a totalitarian or dictatorship that oppresses the citizens of this nation. Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? The answer I give is an absolutely no! These groups use violence to further their political agendas and this is beyond tolerable. They label innocent individuals Nazi or White Supremacist before they effectively destroy their lives financially and socially, sometimes leading to a trip to the hospital for those unfortunate enough to be their target. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Same answer I gave for Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers, they are not justified and I believe they should just die out already. Their numbers are in the few, yet they are slowly growing in strength thanks to the liberal left groups demonizing and dehumanizing whites, this basically plays into their hands by making it seem like they are the saviors of whites who have been unfairly targeted. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? He is misunderstood and targeted unfairly by the media. He does happen to make it easy for them to attack him and make it seem like he is a worthless piece of **** because he happens to have a very big mouth with a large platform to spout his views. He is protected by first amendment freedom and this won’t change no matter how much the left denounces him. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? Absolutely not because anyone can easily be labeled fake news, this is a slippery slope where we can end up with a totalitarian government that censors any information that they don’t like. By giving in to the liberal left and censoring fake news, we are giving them a tool to effectively silence anyone that they do not like at all. Got to remember, liberal left owns majority of the platforms in United States, it is already easy for them to drown out their opposing views. The only last refuge for their opposing views was youtube and that is under threat of censorship thanks to the ad-apocalypse which caused a lot of youtubers to lose revenue aka money they depend on to live. Final Thoughts: There has been a lot of infringements, complete disregards for the law, and straight up character assassinations lately by the liberal left that has left our nation as a mess. Our government and congress is completely overwhelmed with all the issues. It has gotten to the point many of our citizens are fed up with this crap and want action, so they chose Donald Trump who happens to not be the most political correct person ever elected. All in All he is doing his best to fix the situation to the best of his ability, but there is only so much a single man can do. Liberal Left media, Democrats, and Celebrities try to paint anyone who doesn’t follow their agenda as an ultimate evil. By dehumanizing and demonizing those that doesn’t agree with their agenda, the liberals are causing a large divide between our nation’s citizens to the point no one is willing to sit down to compromise, let alone talk to each other about the issues we have today. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted October 13, 2017 #2 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said: Political Party: Independent/ Voted trans-humanist most recently Dominate Religion or Non-religion: None/Atheist Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Deserve? No. Have a means to correct their situation, yes. For those who have known no other country than America? Yes. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Yup. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? Yes, the Constitution protects all people that America deals with. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? Yes for all except vote. Because foreigners with no immigration status at all are permitted to own property and businesses here. We probably should get rid of the "invest 500,000$ in America and get a green card" rule that the Kushner family has been selling to the Chinese though. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? Can't say what he is doing is cracking down on illegal immigration. He is mostly just building walls and trying to scale back on all forms of immigration. Was It Right To End DACA? Rip off the bandaid, but not heal the wound? Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? Waste of money. Ladder technology is very developed these days. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? A good thing? Eh, it's a mix. I do believe globalization is inevitable (and not because I am married to a Brazilian/Italian who works for the Paraguay office of a Brazilian insurance company, that is backed by European banks, that insures cargo from China to South America) We can be a hermit kingdom like North Korea or we can try to direct this globalization to protect the values we hold dear. Stepping away will just let another country (China in my opinion) direct the future of the world economy. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? Probably not, but the small amount it does offset counters the small amount of racism that still abounds. Do You Believe in White Privilege? I do. The mere fact that most whites can't see the difference in environment between themselves and other minorities is proof enough. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? Overall, yes. But sheep will always need a shepherd. You can't remove media and not have another form take it's place. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? I'd say it's is. But it's the same as it has always been. Black construction workers are as rare in Iowa as they were 40 years ago for the same reasons. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? Yup, all people are protected by the Constitution. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Yes, all people are still protected by the Constitution. Of course there are specific rights that are citizen only rights like the right to vote. The constitution is nice enough to point them out to us. "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude." Do You Believe It Is Okay To Make Laws Based of Religion? No. We have it built into our system where parties can use religious rules in arbitration if they choose to resolve stuff if they want in minor disputes. But for governing the country or majors laws, no. It Is Okay To Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? Only if that policy is reason and logic....... Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? Things like those groups don't appear in a vacuum. I would rather they didn't exist, but as long as the reason they exist, exists- so will they. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Same as the above. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, Dna tests like a duck..... Well you get the point.. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? No. Final Thoughts: We have a Republican controlled congress, presidency, majority of governors, and a majority on the supreme court. The thoughts of opinions of liberals frankly do not matter. If our president got off his twitter account, stopped watching CNN, and complaining about football most of his self-made problems would disappear. Edited October 13, 2017 by Gromdor 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 13, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Thanks for posting your views, this will help everyone understand where you stand on issues. So less confusion since there is many people who switch sides depending on the evidence that is presented. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted October 13, 2017 #4 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Uncle Sam said: Political Party: Independant/anarchist/green Dominate Religion or Non-religion: Agnostic/Buddhist Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? I think each case is different. I feel like its fundamentally unamerican to turn people who have fled torture/murder/slavery back to those fates regardless of how they got here. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Yes Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No because the constitution was created for the citizens of this nation. If they are not willing to go through proper channels to become a citizen of this nation, they are not worthy of these protects the constitution provides. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? No Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? No. Theoretically yes stopping more illegal immigration is a good thing, I dont believe for a second however that Trump is doing anything with the issue other than playing racial politics. Was It Right To End DACA? No Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? Not even a little. Guess I was traumatized by the images from the Berlin Wall but in my opinion its never a good idea to give a government the tools of tyranny. I also have serious concerns about the environmental impact of the wall. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? I believe its both good and bad. Definitely a grey area for me. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? Having seen racial discrimination from hiring managers first hand , yes it does potentially help. Do You Believe in White Privilege? Yes white privilege is a real thing. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? Yes and no . What theyre doing now is a service to our nation. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? Racism despite the wishful thinking of its deniers is alive and well. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? Yes . Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? NOPE NOPE NOPE It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? What do you mean Atherist policies? I think thats kind of a strange question. Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? Another grey area which is very complex. BLM is absolutely justified, until some of their members go to extremes. Same with Antifa. Im no fan of the black panthers though How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Lowest form of scum on the earfth Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? He's a spoiled child who has never had to work a day in his life. I think he's evil to his core but that evil is purely a result of his narcissism. I also believe he's mentally deficient, maybe with early onset Alzheimers Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? Nope Nope Nope Final Thoughts: The culture war is being flamed by conservatives who then scream about the liberal's divisiveness. Trump is a racist piece of human garbage who is not in complete control mentally and is a true clear and present danger to this nation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prif_the_Pirate Posted October 13, 2017 #5 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Here are my views. I must state that my wife and her family are die-hard Massachusetts liberals and my favorite sister in law is happily married to a woman. My parents are ultra-conservative Christians. We live in a very diverse household and it leads to very heated conversations. I am a hard Libertarian, in that I believe that the Federal Government has completely overarched its authority, and we deserve a rollback of Federal oversight on the liberties we wish to enjoy. I am tired of paying the government to live in this country, and I am tired of watching my dollars go into an ever-deepening hole. Most abhorrent to me are the concept that the government can regulate private ownership, licensing to access freedoms such as fishing, tell me that I must pay tax and have licenses to own a firearm, that we live in a country where people are not really free to choose for themselves. and that they have the gall to render a drug illegal, forcing us to pay for someone to live in a prison because they smoked a plant. Political Party: Libertarian Neo-Antifederalist Dominate Religion or Non-religion: None/raised Christian Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? No. I believe that the right of a citizen is the right to have a say in the direction of the country. If you cannot sacrifice to make yourself a citizen, then you should not be permitted the right to have a say in what the government does. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? I wasn’t aware this was even an argument. Our country was founded on the backs of immigrants. If you come here seeking a better life, then you have every right to be a part of our country, and help to make it better. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No, and nor should there be “protection” for illegal immigrants. However, the complete refusal of every illegal immigrant is not the right way to proceed. Our country should be responsible for helping potential immigrants complete the process legally, but should not tolerate illegals. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? No. If you cannot legally live in this country, you cannot expect to inherit the rights of living in this country. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? Absolutely. We cannot allow illegal immigrants to flood our country, raise our crime rates and benefit off of the opportunity of this country without being subject to the regulations and restrictions citizens have to deal with to live, work, and thrive in America. Was It Right To End DACA? Yes and no. While the DACA act subtly encouraged illegal immigration, we cannot turn away those that are already here. The USA cannot survive with illegal immigration continuing, and it was absolutely a step in the right direction. However, I believe a minor grandfathering clause of sorts, giving an opportunity to those that are already here, should be included. It’s more the principle of the idea. We promised to protect them, and now we are breaking a promise. Those that are already here, obeying the law, and contributing to society should be given an opportunity to follow a path to citizenship and enjoy the fruits of this country legally. If they refuse to become a citizen or can’t complete the process, then they should go. Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? I believe it is a decent idea, but it is being very poorly executed. We can’t afford it, a great deal of the nation has no interest in backing it, and the bully-ish politics our president has been playing with Mexico has not helped getting the Mexican government on board. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? Globalization in trade and production is a good thing when properly regulated so that there is a general fairness. Globalization of our country is ruining our nation’s identity. The American Dream has been morphed into an idea where people believe it is their place to turn this country into a place where you can live in the United States as a citizen, but still identify with your home country and assault the US for everything it does. If you live here, you are an American, not a Mexican, not an Iraqi, not a Brit. Disunity in this country is destroying it. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? NO! The only way to end this archaic view of minority-by-race, minority-by-sex, or minority-by-whatever-else-you-can-come-up-with-to-make-you-seem-oppressed, is to stop talking about it. Remove the requirement to put your sex and race on any school, job, or other application. Let merit alone speak for the person. And to all of those that say people of color have less “opportunity”, life is what you make it. I know just as many white people as I do black that have lived in poverty their entire life. Life is a series of choices that define who you are, and everyone has to make the best with the hand they are dealt. Do You Believe in White Privilege? White privilege is an outdated view of white people being superior. White privilege still exists because people that aren’t white refuse to stop talking about it. If you took every attack at white people and turned it on any other race, it would be considered racism. In my opinion, the most oppressed people in this country are the “majority”, which is the white person, because every other race represented in this nation has ganged up against them to tell Caucasians that they are privileged. I believe the fact that whites are not allowed to defend themselves, that shows like “Dear White People” exist, and that the color of their skin defines the content of their character, shows that the oppressed in this country have become the oppressors, and are intent on silencing the views of an entire race just because they were born that way. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? Yes yes yes yes. The media lies to you. They p*** on you without the courtesy of calling it rain. Trump has been attacked left and right for every misspelling on twitter, every time he makes a mistake, or every time he eats his steak with ketchup. What about all of the good things he has done? The kind words he spoke to victims of hurricanes and Las Vegas? If anyone in the media attacked Nixon, Kennedy, Reagan, or Obama the way they attacked Trump, they would have been forced to apologize and faced severe reciprocations. It all comes down to one thing: The media has a political stance. Media is a news outlook, not a political outlet. Once the media decides to become bias and add opinion to their stories, or skew them so they can gain viewership, they have become a propaganda association and not a news source. Articles that would have been considered too hot for an OpEd section 15 years ago are headliners today. You won’t find a news source attacking Clinton for everything she has done in the past, from embezzling funds to her and Bill dressing up as white slaver and black slave at a Halloween party. Even more so now that she has lost, the media is putting Clinton on a pedestal as the greatest good we’ll never have. Another example is firearms. A mass shooting is only about the guns when the suspect is white. A gun is only in the news when someone is murdered, or when it fuels the media stance. Never will you see a legal gun owner praised for stopping a shooting, defending themselves, or saving lives (It has happened quite a bit this year). The only time a legal gun owner made the news defending themselves was when that kid in Oklahoma defended his home against 3 intruders with an AR-15. Even then, there were calls to ban “assault rifles” because they gave the kid an unfair advantage against the attackers! THE MEDIA MAKES YOU BELIEVE WHAT IT WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? Yes and No. There is a great deal of racism in this country, but it is not the racism of whites hating blacks or the other “conventional” racist ideals. They surely exist, as we saw with Charlottesville. The most rampant racism is subliminal racism. It is everywhere. People ganging up because they have been told that there was a racist message, or a campaign targeting minorities specifically, or implying that lower income housing is completely made up of racial minorities, or the worst: pretending not to be racist, and to be friends of the minorities to fill their minds with subliminal hate which causes the country to divide more. Morgan Freeman once said the best way to end racism was to stop talking about it. It has become a term that has far exceeded its defining mandate, and is now the way for anyone to get one over on a white person, to target police, or to put themselves on a pedestal above others. This country is now fueled by the perception of oppression. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? OF COURSE THEY DO. This issue has carried on for far too long. Let people love who they love, marry who they wish, and identify as they wish. If you identify as transgender and wish to serve in the military, please do. This ancient concept of denying people rights and happiness because they are different is completely disgusting, and needs to end. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Foreigners are protected as inhabitants of this country, but not as citizens. If you live or visit the US, but are not a citizen, you are guaranteed the basic rights that we all enjoy, such as fair trial, public representation, or the like. You should not be entitled to the rights reserved for citizens. In an age where the Vatican supports gay rights, this argument is disgusting. Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? No. There is no basis for religion in the governing of a country. Religion is a choice, and should not be included in the government of a country known for its religious tolerance. However, persecution for your religious beliefs, especially if they are converse with your own, is becoming more wide spread and it should not be allowed. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? Your personal beliefs should not be counted in politics, no matter what you believe. As long as we are tolerant of everyone, than there should be no reason to insert personal views that are not held by the masses into the government. Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? No. Antifa is actually a terrorist organization (violence against civilians for political means), and should be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They are no longer protestors, they are a violent anti-establishment resistance movement intent on destroying our society because they didn’t get their way. BLM isn’t that bad, but it has gotten out of hand. It began as a force for racial equality by raising blacks to the ranks of others because they felt oppressed. However it has now become a mantra that incites violence and the idea that White Lives Don’t Matter. All Lives Matter, and we should strive to ensure that we all believe that and do our best to make this country truly equal. BAMN isn’t as bad. They have the right to protest, but they are treading a fine line between protest and riot as well. Black Panthers have always defined themselves as militant. The word militant says it all. They are intent on being violent. Ironically the Black Panthers’ leader has condemned BLM and other groups, saying that’s not how we go about inciting change. I still don’t agree that a militant organization is justified. That being said, a peaceful protest is the right of every citizen of this nation, and should be allowed as long as destruction to property, violence to persons, and incitement of violence is avoided. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Absolutely not. All three of these organizations incite violence and promote views that attack people because of the color of their skin. There is no room for these beliefs in the US. I see no difference between these groups and the ones above. Like I said before, a peaceful protest is the right of every citizen of this nation, and should be allowed as long as destruction to property, violence to persons, and incitement of violence is avoided. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? He’s not a bad guy. He’s not always the best with his words, and he certainly digs his own grave more often than not, but he’s unfairly portrayed by the media as a psycho with no leash. He’s done many good things that the media refuses to cover, and the media then attributes the views of his followers to his support of them (Neo-Nazis). He means well, he just needs some help becoming more presidential. I don’t particularly agree with his policies, but as a person he’s not bad. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? First of all, censorship is a step in the direction of a society under an overly powerful executive government (Fahrenheit 451). Secondly, what is fake news? In my opinion, if we censored fake news, than we’d lose every network because no news network, from Fox to CNN can go 5 seconds without spewing a half truth or a doctored fact that supports their political views or entices viewers for money. Final Thoughts: This country is going down a dark path. Races are more divided than ever, thanks to the inciting of violence and division from the left. Every loony is coming out of the woodworks trying to seek solace in a political party or a radical movement to join the fight. Our country is on the brink of yet another war we can’t afford. Our president can’t lead this country, but this country refuses to be led. Our House and Senate are so divided that the Right can’t make any moves, and the Left is dead-set on turning away every single Right-Wing proposal just because they hate Trump. This country is afraid, and is tearing itself apart one city at a time. People want to remove the fundamental right to self-defense defined in the second amendment to ensure that the masses are unprotected when the country collapses on itself. If this country can’t put aside its differences, stop attacking people because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or most importantly political party, then this country will see another civil war that will end its status as a world power. The government is broken. Our political system is broken. We were forced to choose between a man completely unfit to hold a public office, and a lady that deserves a jail cell for life or worse, and that the media fueled this fire, and sat back and watched as the USA went down in flames, consuming itself with its divisiveness and hatred. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 14, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted October 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Prif_the_Pirate said: Here are my views. I must state that my wife and her family are die-hard Massachusetts liberals and my favorite sister in law is happily married to a woman. My parents are ultra-conservative Christians. We live in a very diverse household and it leads to very heated conversations. I am a hard Libertarian, in that I believe that the Federal Government has completely overarched its authority, and we deserve a rollback of Federal oversight on the liberties we wish to enjoy. I am tired of paying the government to live in this country, and I am tired of watching my dollars go into an ever-deepening hole. Most abhorrent to me are the concept that the government can regulate private ownership, licensing to access freedoms such as fishing, tell me that I must pay tax and have licenses to own a firearm, that we live in a country where people are not really free to choose for themselves. and that they have the gall to render a drug illegal, forcing us to pay for someone to live in a prison because they smoked a plant. Political Party: Libertarian Neo-Antifederalist Dominate Religion or Non-religion: None/raised Christian Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? No. I believe that the right of a citizen is the right to have a say in the direction of the country. If you cannot sacrifice to make yourself a citizen, then you should not be permitted the right to have a say in what the government does. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? I wasn’t aware this was even an argument. Our country was founded on the backs of immigrants. If you come here seeking a better life, then you have every right to be a part of our country, and help to make it better. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No, and nor should there be “protection” for illegal immigrants. However, the complete refusal of every illegal immigrant is not the right way to proceed. Our country should be responsible for helping potential immigrants complete the process legally, but should not tolerate illegals. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? No. If you cannot legally live in this country, you cannot expect to inherit the rights of living in this country. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? Absolutely. We cannot allow illegal immigrants to flood our country, raise our crime rates and benefit off of the opportunity of this country without being subject to the regulations and restrictions citizens have to deal with to live, work, and thrive in America. Was It Right To End DACA? Yes and no. While the DACA act subtly encouraged illegal immigration, we cannot turn away those that are already here. The USA cannot survive with illegal immigration continuing, and it was absolutely a step in the right direction. However, I believe a minor grandfathering clause of sorts, giving an opportunity to those that are already here, should be included. It’s more the principle of the idea. We promised to protect them, and now we are breaking a promise. Those that are already here, obeying the law, and contributing to society should be given an opportunity to follow a path to citizenship and enjoy the fruits of this country legally. If they refuse to become a citizen or can’t complete the process, then they should go. Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? I believe it is a decent idea, but it is being very poorly executed. We can’t afford it, a great deal of the nation has no interest in backing it, and the bully-ish politics our president has been playing with Mexico has not helped getting the Mexican government on board. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? Globalization in trade and production is a good thing when properly regulated so that there is a general fairness. Globalization of our country is ruining our nation’s identity. The American Dream has been morphed into an idea where people believe it is their place to turn this country into a place where you can live in the United States as a citizen, but still identify with your home country and assault the US for everything it does. If you live here, you are an American, not a Mexican, not an Iraqi, not a Brit. Disunity in this country is destroying it. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? NO! The only way to end this archaic view of minority-by-race, minority-by-sex, or minority-by-whatever-else-you-can-come-up-with-to-make-you-seem-oppressed, is to stop talking about it. Remove the requirement to put your sex and race on any school, job, or other application. Let merit alone speak for the person. And to all of those that say people of color have less “opportunity”, life is what you make it. I know just as many white people as I do black that have lived in poverty their entire life. Life is a series of choices that define who you are, and everyone has to make the best with the hand they are dealt. Do You Believe in White Privilege? White privilege is an outdated view of white people being superior. White privilege still exists because people that aren’t white refuse to stop talking about it. If you took every attack at white people and turned it on any other race, it would be considered racism. In my opinion, the most oppressed people in this country are the “majority”, which is the white person, because every other race represented in this nation has ganged up against them to tell Caucasians that they are privileged. I believe the fact that whites are not allowed to defend themselves, that shows like “Dear White People” exist, and that the color of their skin defines the content of their character, shows that the oppressed in this country have become the oppressors, and are intent on silencing the views of an entire race just because they were born that way. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? Yes yes yes yes. The media lies to you. They p*** on you without the courtesy of calling it rain. Trump has been attacked left and right for every misspelling on twitter, every time he makes a mistake, or every time he eats his steak with ketchup. What about all of the good things he has done? The kind words he spoke to victims of hurricanes and Las Vegas? If anyone in the media attacked Nixon, Kennedy, Reagan, or Obama the way they attacked Trump, they would have been forced to apologize and faced severe reciprocations. It all comes down to one thing: The media has a political stance. Media is a news outlook, not a political outlet. Once the media decides to become bias and add opinion to their stories, or skew them so they can gain viewership, they have become a propaganda association and not a news source. Articles that would have been considered too hot for an OpEd section 15 years ago are headliners today. You won’t find a news source attacking Clinton for everything she has done in the past, from embezzling funds to her and Bill dressing up as white slaver and black slave at a Halloween party. Even more so now that she has lost, the media is putting Clinton on a pedestal as the greatest good we’ll never have. Another example is firearms. A mass shooting is only about the guns when the suspect is white. A gun is only in the news when someone is murdered, or when it fuels the media stance. Never will you see a legal gun owner praised for stopping a shooting, defending themselves, or saving lives (It has happened quite a bit this year). The only time a legal gun owner made the news defending themselves was when that kid in Oklahoma defended his home against 3 intruders with an AR-15. Even then, there were calls to ban “assault rifles” because they gave the kid an unfair advantage against the attackers! THE MEDIA MAKES YOU BELIEVE WHAT IT WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? Yes and No. There is a great deal of racism in this country, but it is not the racism of whites hating blacks or the other “conventional” racist ideals. They surely exist, as we saw with Charlottesville. The most rampant racism is subliminal racism. It is everywhere. People ganging up because they have been told that there was a racist message, or a campaign targeting minorities specifically, or implying that lower income housing is completely made up of racial minorities, or the worst: pretending not to be racist, and to be friends of the minorities to fill their minds with subliminal hate which causes the country to divide more. Morgan Freeman once said the best way to end racism was to stop talking about it. It has become a term that has far exceeded its defining mandate, and is now the way for anyone to get one over on a white person, to target police, or to put themselves on a pedestal above others. This country is now fueled by the perception of oppression. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? OF COURSE THEY DO. This issue has carried on for far too long. Let people love who they love, marry who they wish, and identify as they wish. If you identify as transgender and wish to serve in the military, please do. This ancient concept of denying people rights and happiness because they are different is completely disgusting, and needs to end. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Foreigners are protected as inhabitants of this country, but not as citizens. If you live or visit the US, but are not a citizen, you are guaranteed the basic rights that we all enjoy, such as fair trial, public representation, or the like. You should not be entitled to the rights reserved for citizens. In an age where the Vatican supports gay rights, this argument is disgusting. Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? No. There is no basis for religion in the governing of a country. Religion is a choice, and should not be included in the government of a country known for its religious tolerance. However, persecution for your religious beliefs, especially if they are converse with your own, is becoming more wide spread and it should not be allowed. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? Your personal beliefs should not be counted in politics, no matter what you believe. As long as we are tolerant of everyone, than there should be no reason to insert personal views that are not held by the masses into the government. Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? No. Antifa is actually a terrorist organization (violence against civilians for political means), and should be persecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They are no longer protestors, they are a violent anti-establishment resistance movement intent on destroying our society because they didn’t get their way. BLM isn’t that bad, but it has gotten out of hand. It began as a force for racial equality by raising blacks to the ranks of others because they felt oppressed. However it has now become a mantra that incites violence and the idea that White Lives Don’t Matter. All Lives Matter, and we should strive to ensure that we all believe that and do our best to make this country truly equal. BAMN isn’t as bad. They have the right to protest, but they are treading a fine line between protest and riot as well. Black Panthers have always defined themselves as militant. The word militant says it all. They are intent on being violent. Ironically the Black Panthers’ leader has condemned BLM and other groups, saying that’s not how we go about inciting change. I still don’t agree that a militant organization is justified. That being said, a peaceful protest is the right of every citizen of this nation, and should be allowed as long as destruction to property, violence to persons, and incitement of violence is avoided. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Absolutely not. All three of these organizations incite violence and promote views that attack people because of the color of their skin. There is no room for these beliefs in the US. I see no difference between these groups and the ones above. Like I said before, a peaceful protest is the right of every citizen of this nation, and should be allowed as long as destruction to property, violence to persons, and incitement of violence is avoided. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? He’s not a bad guy. He’s not always the best with his words, and he certainly digs his own grave more often than not, but he’s unfairly portrayed by the media as a psycho with no leash. He’s done many good things that the media refuses to cover, and the media then attributes the views of his followers to his support of them (Neo-Nazis). He means well, he just needs some help becoming more presidential. I don’t particularly agree with his policies, but as a person he’s not bad. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? First of all, censorship is a step in the direction of a society under an overly powerful executive government (Fahrenheit 451). Secondly, what is fake news? In my opinion, if we censored fake news, than we’d lose every network because no news network, from Fox to CNN can go 5 seconds without spewing a half truth or a doctored fact that supports their political views or entices viewers for money. Final Thoughts: This country is going down a dark path. Races are more divided than ever, thanks to the inciting of violence and division from the left. Every loony is coming out of the woodworks trying to seek solace in a political party or a radical movement to join the fight. Our country is on the brink of yet another war we can’t afford. Our president can’t lead this country, but this country refuses to be led. Our House and Senate are so divided that the Right can’t make any moves, and the Left is dead-set on turning away every single Right-Wing proposal just because they hate Trump. This country is afraid, and is tearing itself apart one city at a time. People want to remove the fundamental right to self-defense defined in the second amendment to ensure that the masses are unprotected when the country collapses on itself. If this country can’t put aside its differences, stop attacking people because of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or most importantly political party, then this country will see another civil war that will end its status as a world power. The government is broken. Our political system is broken. We were forced to choose between a man completely unfit to hold a public office, and a lady that deserves a jail cell for life or worse, and that the media fueled this fire, and sat back and watched as the USA went down in flames, consuming itself with its divisiveness and hatred. A lot of your views is the same as my views. Are you sure you are a libertarian? You almost exactly like me in views and I am a independent constitutionalist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prif_the_Pirate Posted October 14, 2017 #7 Share Posted October 14, 2017 12 hours ago, Uncle Sam said: A lot of your views is the same as my views. Are you sure you are a libertarian? You almost exactly like me in views and I am a independent constitutionalist. Yes. The questions were not really focused on whether or not we believe in the federal government's power level, more aimed at giving you a narrow way to answer; more aligned to say "I agree or disagree with a specific topic" instead of asking what our feelings are as a whole. My personal belief is that we are living in a pseudo-dictator led democracy where, when liberty fails, the president executive orders his way around the checks and balances system. Moreover, the federal government is focused on regulating things that force us to pay money to enjoy freedoms, which underlines the concept of defining them as freedoms. Why do you have to pay taxes to own something every year? Why do you have to pay a government tax on transactions that should be between seller and buyer? Why do I have to pay to fish or hunt for sustenance? Also, I firmly believe that states' rights should trump federal oversight. The original concept of the constitution was to provide a basic set of rights for all people and to provide a framework for the individual states to build upon. Anything not specifically prohibited or limited by the federal government was supposed to be legislated on a state level. Even then, the founding fathers believed more in the liberty of the individual, which is why they specifically included inalienable rights such as the bill of rights, which protect the individual, and purposefully left out a great deal. They didn't want to legislate and control everything that every person does. Now you can go to jail (or even get the death penalty, if Florida gets their way) for smoking a plant, or selling it. I want to live in a society where the states can decide most of the legislation, and how much of it they want to have. People can choose to live freely, and in peace without the worry of government interference on business transactions, sustenance and personal choice. I may not be completely Libertarian because I do believe in structure and order, but I definitely lean that way more than independent. I've been shafted by the government for far too long to like it anymore. Thanks for asking! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 15, 2017 Author #8 Share Posted October 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Prif_the_Pirate said: My personal belief is that we are living in a pseudo-dictator led democracy where, when liberty fails, the president executive orders his way around the checks and balances system. Moreover, the federal government is focused on regulating things that force us to pay money to enjoy freedoms, which underlines the concept of defining them as freedoms. Why do you have to pay taxes to own something every year? Why do you have to pay a government tax on transactions that should be between seller and buyer? Why do I have to pay to fish or hunt for sustenance? You do realize that Trump is removing hundreds of regulations with executive orders? Most of the executive orders have been used to remove or supercede Obama Era regulations that are hurting U.S. citizens. Regulations stifle economic growth and hurt citizens chances of building a stable lifestyle, he is killing three birds by using executive orders to remove these regulations. Almost every single executive order that Trump has issued has been for removing restrictions that stifle small business growth and bringing us a step closer to a smaller government, the mainstream media doesn't report on this stuff which gives people the idea that Trump is using Executive Orders to oppress people which can't be further from the truth. They exclusive focus on him and his rhetoric instead of focusing on the good he has done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnchorSteam Posted October 15, 2017 #9 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) On 10/13/2017 at 10:30 AM, Uncle Sam said: Political Party: Libertarian Dominate Religion or Non-religion: My own damn business. Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? "No because they already prove to me and others that they don’t respect the laws of this nation and look down on the citizens of this nation. Forging identities, abusing social services, and demanding United States citizens to cater to their needs only further ads grievances they caused." Same here. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Duh! Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? As is the case in EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH .... nope, not a chance. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? Sure, but lots o' luck with that. On the Left, powerful people want more un-educated 3rd-worlders that only know how to vote Socialist. On the Right, selfish and ignorant scumbaggs are exploiting all the cheap labor to hold wages down, as they have been doing for decades now. (there is no such thing as a job that Americans won't do, they just won't do them at slave-wages) Was It Right To End DACA? A one-year old Presidential write has already become a sacred Cow? Too bad, so sad, its done. Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? I think it would be better to hit everyone employing illegals with massive fines, but why not? First, lets track down the hundreds of millions that were approved for this back in the Bush days, and jail everyone that embezzled all that money. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? HELL no. An establishment that does a half-assed job of running one country would only foul everything up completely if they are trying to run dozens at the same time. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? Helped, past-tense. Continuing with it is stupid, and cripples healthy people the same way you would if you tie them to a crutch that they don't need. Do You Believe in White Privilege? Not in the 21st century. The only thing white people have today is a target on their backs, and forcing a people to apologize for the fact that they exist because of the color of their skin can only be seen as a good thing by predators. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? No more than we have done ourselves wrong by supporting that garbage. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? No, but every religion needs a Satan, so that they can justify their own excesses and abuses of power, so the Left will NEVER stop raging about this subject. The Spanish Inquisition never stopped burning "heretics" no matter how dominant they became, its the same principle. ((and please, stop calling them "Liberals"! There is nothing Liberal about the policies of the Left today)) Quote Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? No less, and no more, than any other Citizen in the US does. Who thinks that is even a question? Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? "Just like the illegal immigrants, foreigners don’t deserve protect by the constitution, they only have the basic universal rights granted to them. Giving foreigners the right the vote is asking for another nation to meddle in our election and shape our future." Agreed. Just like every other nation. Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? No. Period. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? Huh? Isn't that what "Secular" means? Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? Nope. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Nope. BOTH groups go for violence because they have no intellectual standing at all, they can't even create decent propaganda... unless they solely target the poorly educated. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? I understand him just fine. Reading his own words, un-edited by the establishment makes that pretty darn easy, try it someday. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? Censoring ANYthing is a slippery slope that I do not intend to travel. And besides, there are far too many people that think Censorship is a wonderful thing, and they pursue it just as rabidly as a Victorian-era Priest or a McCarthy-ist goon or a Soviet Commissar. In that case, I'm more into the push-back. Final Thoughts: We are only in this mess because education has crumbled right before our eyes for the last 60 years, as the results of policies that were both incompetent, egotistical and in some cases deliberately harmful to our kids. "Not with a bang, but a whimper" And no, it is not the end of the World, worlds don't end anymore than Mountains crumble because of an infestation of mites. What is about to end is the only chance the Human Race had to get things right, rise above tribalism, and go out into the cosmos to meet our fellow sentient beings. And fear is what crippled us. Edited October 15, 2017 by AnchorSteam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 15, 2017 #10 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Whatcha doin? Creating a database? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 15, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Whatcha doin? Creating a database? No. Just allowing people to collect their thoughts, I notice everyone is all over the place with their thoughts when it comes to debating and that leads to fights. By answering questions, you are basically reminding yourself where you stand on issues that plaque our nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 15, 2017 #12 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said: No. Just allowing people to collect their thoughts, I notice everyone is all over the place with their thoughts when it comes to debating and that leads to fights. By answering questions, you are basically reminding yourself where you stand on issues that plaque our nation. Riiiiight. I don't need reminding of where I stand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnchorSteam Posted October 15, 2017 #13 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ChaosRose said: Riiiiight. I don't need reminding of where I stand. While I appreciate your caution, I have to ask; What makes you think Bog Brother doesn't already know all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 15, 2017 #14 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, AnchorSteam said: While I appreciate your caution, I have to ask; What makes you think Bog Brother doesn't already know all that? Oh he probably does, but I don't need to do Uncle Sam any favors, do I? Let him have to friggin' compile it. Edited October 15, 2017 by ChaosRose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnchorSteam Posted October 15, 2017 #15 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, ChaosRose said: Oh he probably does, but I don't need to do Uncle Sam any favors, do I? Would you feel differently if a Democrat was President? Kidding! Its cool, we know the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 15, 2017 #16 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, AnchorSteam said: Would you feel differently if a Democrat was President? Kidding! Its cool, we know the deal. I'm not talking about the ethereal Big Brother Uncle Sam. I'm talking about the one who posted this discussion. Lol. I don't think it would matter who was president. He'd be the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted October 15, 2017 #17 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I would have liked to add to this discussion, but I found reading the replies to the OP tedious and difficult to separate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 15, 2017 Author #18 Share Posted October 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Oh he probably does, but I don't need to do Uncle Sam any favors, do I? Let him have to friggin' compile it. Dude... I don't work with any government at all. Where do you get that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirou Posted October 15, 2017 #19 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Political Party: N/A Dominate Religion or Non-religion: Christian Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? They can become citizens legally, yes. Otherwise it's an insult to our laws and regulations that we put here for a reason to track down criminal activity and improve our infrastructure through taxes. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Ok. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? Yes in the same way that state laws protect people moving from state to state from other state laws. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? Vote: no. Drive: if you mean getting their license here, no, the DMV's already crowded enough lol. But for real, they cannot because they need their SSN. Land: no and I don't believe that American business owners should go to small countries in Central America and buy their land for businesses while taking away from the local's businesses. Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? I could care less tbh. That's more of a judicial issue. Was It Right To End DACA? I don't think that it was right to start it. It makes no sense in my head why it would exist. Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? no that's stupid and also a state issue. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? No. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? No. Do You Believe in White Privilege? White privilege exists in white communities. Black privilege exists in black communities. Same with asians and latinos and etc. I live near an Asian community so no. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? The citizens want something, the media gives it to them. Yes, but I do believe that the channels sponsored by the government haven't been doing anything good for the people for a long time. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? No. I'm not white and I've talked to a lot of white supremacists and most of the ones that are above the age of 15 just want it for people to be peaceful and kind to one another and not start fights over them being different from non-whites. On the other hand, once I go on websites were the community's like 12 to 15 year old kiddies, everyone's racist in the worst way possible. That said, there were a lot of racist whites at my highschool who didn't like the Asians there because they were more popular. Then again, they were like 15 year olds. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? Sure but I also believe they should enact a law not to go around flailing dildos and penis-shaped water squirters at children during parades because that's rude. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? Ok. Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? That's kind of difficult when a lot of religions are based off of laws based off of the nation that are generally good laws to have. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? This question doesn't even make sense. Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? No, the USA is not a fascist country in any way, shape, or form. ?, I don't really know what BLM do, sorry. ?, I don't know what BAMN is, sorry. ?, I don't know much about the BP, sorry. I think the BP are black supremacists or something and if they are, that's bad and rude and they shouldn't be that. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Supremacists are alienating their fellow Americans and that's bad. Nazis were enemies of the USA and I'm an American so they're bad. The KKK are a bunch of old hum-drums who aren't going to survive another 50 years. They're bad in theory but I don't think they do anything anymore so yes they're bad but who cares because they don't do anything. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? I could care less. I think he's ill-informed and not very political-minded. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? No. Maybe have disclaimers or something. Final Thoughts: Dunno. I wish there was more questions about environmental sustainability being affected by mega-corps. Or local communities being affected by mega-corps. Or something about the mega-corps. I am not a fan. THEY GOT RID OF OUR PUMPKIN PATCH AND ARE CONSTRUCTING MORE CRAPPY VEGAN SUPERMARTS NEAR MY HOUSE AND I AM SICK OF THEM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockornothing Posted October 15, 2017 #20 Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 0:30 PM, Uncle Sam said: Here is where I stand in as a United States citizen when it comes to the shape of our nation, you may participate in this discussion by posting your views on current issues that is plaguing our nation, just answer all the questions truthfully and honestly. Political Party: Conservative (Republican) Dominate Religion or Non-religion: Baptist Do You Feel Illegal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Yes, once they have been deported and complete all the steps required to become a citizen. Unless they were convicted of a crime while here illegally. Do You Feel Legal Immigrants Deserve To Become Citizens? Yes if they complete the required steps. Are Illegal Immigrants Protected By the Constitution? No, but the officials dealing with them are. Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Vote, Drive, or Own Land? No Is Trump Right to Crack Down on Illegal Immigration? Yes until the current immigration laws are changed. Was It Right To End DACA? Yes Do You Support Building A Border Wall With Mexico? Sure, but no matter where you set the bar (in this case the wall), those who do not respect laws or borders will still circumvent both. Do You Believe In Globalization Is A Good Thing? No I like personal freedoms. Do You Believe Affirmative Action Helps Minorities? Yes, it helps those who know its there and they can use it to their advantage. Do You Believe in White Privilege? No, but I might if someone would give me some. Do You Feel The Media Has Done Citizens Wrong? Yes, it is the leading cause of most of the issues today. Is Racism Wide Spread As The Liberals Make It Out To Be? Yes and no, there will always be racism as long as humans can see a difference between each other (an excuse), and it really seems to be prevalent in the same places in the world where it has always been. Do LGBTQ Deserve Constitutional Protection and Rights? As humans and citizen's yes, as far as making someone else be punished for not believing in their lifestyle no. Should Foreigners Be Protected By Constitution? No Do You Believe It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Religion? Like thou shall not steal, sure. It Is Okay Too Make Laws Based of Atheist Policies? What are their policies? Are Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers Justified in Your Eyes? As much as any other club. How about White Supremacy/Neo-Nazis/Ku Klux Klan? Just another club of like minded idiots, like Antifa/BLM/BAMN/Black Panthers. Is Donald Trump A Bad Guy Or Is He Misunderstood? He is the POTUS, like it or not he was voted in just like all the others before him. Should we be focusing on censoring fake news? No it's a lot more fun just picking on them and proving the fake news theory correct. Final Thoughts: Without the 2nd Amendment the rest are optional, NSDQ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 15, 2017 #21 Share Posted October 15, 2017 This doesn't follow the format, but it's close. I'm a libertarian who leans to the right on some things. I support legal immigration. Illegal immigrants should be found and deported. There are exceptions to this rule. I'm okay with Dreamers and hardship cases staying. The same holds true for veterans. It's unfair to all of us to go beyond that, though. Affirmative Action was just at first. Now, it's unfair because it discriminates against Americans. It should be removed and replaced. Things should be based on merit, not categories. I think that there is *some* Black privilege *and* White privilege. Black folks get by with racist comments, and they're given special treatment. White folks aren't hassled as much by the police, and they're not followed as much by security. Privilege is linked to class much more than it is to race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnchorSteam Posted October 16, 2017 #22 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Republicans seem to be dying out. Oh my, whatever will those ignorant fat-cats in the GOP do now? Only two Leftists so far. What are they afraid of... having to be consistent after posting all that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted October 16, 2017 #23 Share Posted October 16, 2017 7 hours ago, AnchorSteam said: Only two Leftists so far. What are they afraid of... having to be consistent after posting all that? LOL Trump supporters care about consistency now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted October 16, 2017 #24 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I pretty much agree with everything Uncle Sam wrote. I'd change a couple small things, but yea that's my opinion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted October 16, 2017 Author #25 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: LOL Trump supporters care about consistency now WTF is wrong with you? Every thread you bring up Trump, you base people who voted for him or support him. You are really hateful towards those who express different political opinions or support a certain candidate. This topic has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the posters themselves & their political views. I don't want to hear another word about Trump at all. Every time you bring it up, you get the thread derailed and everyone upset. Enough. Edited October 16, 2017 by Uncle Sam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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