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15 hours ago, Timonthy said:

I vote meaningless coincidence! 

But do let us know if you dig up anything interesting.

I desperately hope that's the case.

8 hours ago, Sir Smoke aLot said:

Time for some hard work. One thing is sure, whatever result of digging such exercise is always good for health.

I really don't think I can convince the other members of my family to go for that…I mean, six feet down over the whole garden? Imagine the state it would be in afterwards.

7 hours ago, ChaosRose said:

I'm not seeing where they said they did any rituals. Is that on another discussion? 

This is the only discussion, and the only rituals we've done have been getting the Protestant Rector (and his supernatural helper who specialises in that sort of thing) to bless the place, and sprinkling holy water (which I guess some people might class as a "paranormal ritual"). We also did the Tarot, but we do that all the time for all sorts of things; I certainly wouldn't call that a paranormal ritual.

I think since the house is old and you don't know much about it, you have cooked up your own phenomena from your subconscious fears. 

There is likely nothing buried in your garden. 

If you still can't kick the phenomena or the fears, just do the LBRP. 

I don't suggest telling the new tenants anything. They probably won't have any experiences...unless you do tell them. 

I really hope you're right, but at the same time, I've lived in this house all my life, and though I'm certain I've got subconscious fears, I'm also pretty used to the house and its funny little ways. Also, more than that, if there's any chance that someone got murdered and all they want is a genuine burial, it would be a terrible thing not to try to do my best to help them.

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We also did the Tarot, but we do that all the time for all sorts of things; I certainly wouldn't call that a paranormal ritual.

That's probably what they were referring to. Some religious people think divination is evil (although the bible also mentions the use of it by clergy). 

They're gonna blame you and claim that your Tarot use conjured demons. 

Divination doesn't really cause problems for people. Subconscious fears cause problems for people, and some people fear demonic reprisal if they should use divination. 

It's best if those people stay away from it, then. 

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Oh for God's sake people, give this a rest.

Just don't eat the tomatoes...

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"I think someone is buried in my garden.  How can I give peace to a spirit?"

11 hours ago, ChaosRose said:

I think since the house is old and you don't know much about it, you have cooked up your own phenomena from your subconscious fears. 

 

I agree with ChaosRose. We tend to build a frame around our inner fears, and project them outwardly into something we can understand and perhaps find a solution for. It sounds as though you've gone to great lengths to bring peace to a restless soul that's buried in your garden, when the restlessness may actually be buried deep down in your own soul. We each one of us have our own inner fears, and when those fears are triggered by a memory or an event, we search for a way to calm the inner storms.

I think it's difficult for us to accept that we can't save the woman buried in our garden. We can't dig her up and bring her back to life and protect her from the monster that hurt her. We only have the power to save those around us, the living people we see every day. We heal ourselves by giving hope to others.   

 

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11 hours ago, AmethystW said:

I really don't think I can convince the other members of my family to go for that…I mean, six feet down over the whole garden? Imagine the state it would be in afterwards.

There is only one thing you can do, if this situation bothers you. They should understand, at least that is how i percieve my surroundings and act accordingly. Why not make it as if you have some project in mind, to decorate your garden and explain that for that it needs to be 'reshaped' totally. 

That also seems as decent trade, if you need to resolve this situation so much than you have to do some work for it. Actually, it doesn't take too much time and not much money either to do 'garden project'.

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Well there's only one way to find out if someone's buried in the garden..... get a spade and of you go at the end of a days digging and finding nowt you'll be so knackered you'll be to tired to even dream and hey presto problem sovled

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On 21/10/2017 at 10:46 PM, ChaosRose said:

We also did the Tarot, but we do that all the time for all sorts of things; I certainly wouldn't call that a paranormal ritual.

That's probably what they were referring to. Some religious people think divination is evil (although the bible also mentions the use of it by clergy). 

They're gonna blame you and claim that your Tarot use conjured demons. 

Divination doesn't really cause problems for people. Subconscious fears cause problems for people, and some people fear demonic reprisal if they should use divination. 

It's best if those people stay away from it, then. 

I see. Well, that would be illogical, as we did the Tarot ages after the dreams started! I mean, that's the thing – we did everything (the blessings, the holy water, the Tarot) after the dreams started. I'm totally inexperienced when it comes to paranormal rituals, and I do think that you should never, ever meddle with that sort of thing unless you really know what you're doing – but I truly believe the Tarot to be nothing but an innocent and helpful guide.

19 hours ago, simplybill said:

"I think someone is buried in my garden.  How can I give peace to a spirit?"

I agree with ChaosRose. We tend to build a frame around our inner fears, and project them outwardly into something we can understand and perhaps find a solution for. It sounds as though you've gone to great lengths to bring peace to a restless soul that's buried in your garden, when the restlessness may actually be buried deep down in your own soul. We each one of us have our own inner fears, and when those fears are triggered by a memory or an event, we search for a way to calm the inner storms.

I think it's difficult for us to accept that we can't save the woman buried in our garden. We can't dig her up and bring her back to life and protect her from the monster that hurt her. We only have the power to save those around us, the living people we see every day. We heal ourselves by giving hope to others.   

 

If there is no woman buried in our garden, and it is all just a set of meaningless coincidences, rather than being caused by subconscious fears, I think it's more likely just that my brother and I are very in sync, and being a family with an unbending belief in the supernatural, we immediately believed that the dreams HAD to be true. I am very pleased to read that you think I've gone to great lengths, though – the only reason I'm doing this is out of a sense of duty in case she does exist, and to be honest, I feel like I haven't done enough, so it's a relief that you think I've gone to great lengths.

13 hours ago, Sir Smoke aLot said:

There is only one thing you can do, if this situation bothers you. They should understand, at least that is how i percieve my surroundings and act accordingly. Why not make it as if you have some project in mind, to decorate your garden and explain that for that it needs to be 'reshaped' totally. 

That also seems as decent trade, if you need to resolve this situation so much than you have to do some work for it. Actually, it doesn't take too much time and not much money either to do 'garden project'.

Well, I'll speak to my family. We're supposed to be moving, so I don't think I'll be able to convince them on the grounds of suddenly doing a garden project, but maybe I should just discuss it with them honestly. Because I certainly couldn't do it on my own – I'm not exaggerating when I say it's a large garden, and I remember years ago when my dad made my brother dig a hole to replant a tree. It took my brother all afternoon to do one hole and it wasn't even 6 feet deep. It would take days to cover the whole garden. So it would be a lot quicker with at least two people.

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On 10/21/2017 at 4:35 PM, AmethystW said:

Also, more than that, if there's any chance that someone got murdered and all they want is a genuine burial, it would be a terrible thing not to try to do my best to help them.

If I were in your shoes, AmethystW, I would buy a nice ornamental tree and plant it in a corner of the garden, and maybe add some mulch or a rock border. Make it something the new tenants would want to keep (but don’t tell them your reason for putting it there. It might scare them a bit!). IMO, it would be a ‘proper burial’ in the sense that you are showing respect for the person, and honoring them by way of remembrance. 

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On 10/23/2017 at 0:21 AM, AmethystW said:

It took my brother all afternoon to do one hole and it wasn't even 6 feet deep. It would take days to cover the whole garden.

Yeah, it's takes time :) Good luck to you.

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On 23/10/2017 at 3:11 AM, simplybill said:

If I were in your shoes, AmethystW, I would buy a nice ornamental tree and plant it in a corner of the garden, and maybe add some mulch or a rock border. Make it something the new tenants would want to keep (but don’t tell them your reason for putting it there. It might scare them a bit!). IMO, it would be a ‘proper burial’ in the sense that you are showing respect for the person, and honoring them by way of remembrance. 

That's a really good idea. Thank you.

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On 10/25/2017 at 2:35 AM, AmethystW said:

That's a really good idea. Thank you.

Find anything yet? I'd happily help if I were closer. Digging holes can be so satisfying!

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I think someone's buried in my back garden but I'm not sure where so if anyone would like to come and dig it over,then go over it with a fork,rake it out all level give it a light roll then if you find nothing order about 70m of turf lay it for me  I'll be pretty happy with that

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On 10/20/2017 at 8:34 AM, AmethystW said:

I meant "New tenants" in a hypothetical sense.

Ain't no files to check! We just can't really find out anything about the house or anyone who used to live here (even though we can find fairly detailed records for the rest of the buildings on the same street). I'm in the process of contacting the police to ask if they have any missing persons cases or anything else suspicious connected with our address, but with the records being so scarce, and with both my brother and I getting the feeling that it was at least 100 years ago, I don't hold out much hope.

You are going to contact the police based on your dreams?  Please don't do that.  They have plenty to do without spending any resources on crap like that.

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On 10/21/2017 at 10:35 PM, AmethystW said:

 Also, more than that, if there's any chance that someone got murdered and all they want is a genuine burial, it would be a terrible thing not to try to do my best to help them.

if someone was murdered i think they would want the killer caught, but as advised, please do not waste police time just because you had a dream. Maybe get a dog, they are good at digging up bones, but ita a bit late now.

It is an old house....but that does not mean there are ghosts waltzing about. You are moving soon...let the new owners deal with the place and please do not mention anything, if they believe in ghosts too...chances are they could also start having dreams about it...maybe even mightmares.

But if you really believe you can help a murder victim so it makes you feel better....check out the local archives for missing persons. Do some investigation on the previous owners and check they are all buried in the cemetary. 

On 10/20/2017 at 1:59 PM, AmethystW said:

Our house is very old, built in the early 1700s, and we've always seen/heard/felt ghosts etc., to the extent that we've had the house blessed by a rector several times.

Why several times? Never worked then.

An old house is no indcation it is haunted, but in your dreams do.you get any idea on when she was allegedly killed? 1700? 1800? 1900? a few years before you moved there? 

it would help to get the history of the previous owners as you believe she lived there.

You already know it is a woman

She lived in the house

Roughly what century? 

The rest should not be too difficult to find out...did a female previous owner go missing,?  

 

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Well, the upshot was, we moved before I could get it sorted, so that's that.

There was one final development, shortly before we left. I had another dream, which differed from all the others – whereas every previous dream, it's felt like she was saying, "Help me", this one felt like she was saying "Help me or else."

I can't tell you how glad I am to be out of that place. All this time, I've wondered if any of it was really true, or if I was just imagining it. Well, now I know. If anything was going to convince me that everything we saw/heard/experienced was real, it's getting away from there to somewhere normal. By the end, the atmosphere in that house was so awful, I was frightened to even be alone in a room there. The house I live in now feels so, so good by comparison. I lived in that haunted house all my life and never even knew houses could feel this good.

 

11 hours ago, Matt221 said:

I think someone's buried in my back garden but I'm not sure where so if anyone would like to come and dig it over,then go over it with a fork,rake it out all level give it a light roll then if you find nothing order about 70m of turf lay it for me  I'll be pretty happy with that

LMAO

18 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

 

if someone was murdered i think they would want the killer caught, but as advised, please do not waste police time just because you had a dream. Maybe get a dog, they are good at digging up bones, but ita a bit late now.

It is an old house....but that does not mean there are ghosts waltzing about. You are moving soon...let the new owners deal with the place and please do not mention anything, if they believe in ghosts too...chances are they could also start having dreams about it...maybe even mightmares.

But if you really believe you can help a murder victim so it makes you feel better....check out the local archives for missing persons. Do some investigation on the previous owners and check they are all buried in the cemetary. 

Why several times? Never worked then.

An old house is no indcation it is haunted, but in your dreams do.you get any idea on when she was allegedly killed? 1700? 1800? 1900? a few years before you moved there? 

it would help to get the history of the previous owners as you believe she lived there.

You already know it is a woman

She lived in the house

Roughly what century? 

The rest should not be too difficult to find out...did a female previous owner go missing,?  

 

Why several times? New ghosts would appear. I once read that some places were like hubs that attracted spirits, and I think that's what my house was like. We got the impression she died in the early 1900s, but as I said previously, we were never able to find much in the way of records for the house. And it's out of my hands now.

Thanks to everyone for their advice, though.

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2 minutes ago, AmethystW said:

this one felt like she was saying "Help me or else."

All in your dreams...that is all it was and was no indication of a dead body in the garden.

If you had carried on living i guarantee your dreams would have become even more weird, purely because you had set your mind to believe there was a body and the fact you believe in ghosts. 

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34 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

All in your dreams...that is all it was and was no indication of a dead body in the garden.

If you had carried on living i guarantee your dreams would have become even more weird, purely because you had set your mind to believe there was a body and the fact you believe in ghosts. 

Yes, but the dream was just one tiny part of it. It was everything else – the Catholic martyr who used to walk across the hallway (yes, the rector identified him during the first blessing…we even know his name), the voices of the men at the bottom of the stairs at night, the Victorian who walked across my mother's bedroom, the man in a trench coat who stood at the end of my sister's bed, the servant who used to appear in my brother's bedroom at night, the ghost who came up behind me while I was making dinner like he wanted to see what I was cooking – the dream was just another piece of the whole thing (and it was a dream which, by the way, had a number of unexplainable unsettling instances to go with it which we experienced in our waking lives). I don't care what any sceptic says, it was a never-ending stream of ghosts, and after twenty years, I'd had my fill of it.

Btw, that isn't even all the ghosts that we experienced there, I'm just giving you the highlights.

Oh, and also, the rector who came to bless the house brought an expert from the ministry of exorcism with him, who's ordained by the Church of England and trained to sense ghosts and give them peace. She was an expert on the subject and had done many blessings and exorcisms during her time. Both of them sensed the spirits, and the exorcist said ours was one of the most interesting she'd ever done. They also told us that there are certain people who are sensitive to spirits, and that we were.
Maybe you don't think much of Religion or religious types, but I'd say anyone who's trained as an expert and spent their lives performing blessings and exorcisms knows about as much as anyone in regards to ghosts and the supernatural.

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