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The Death of Net Neutrality


Aquila King

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4 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Well i may not have been...

Again life went on before the net and i have one outside of the internet ;)

Sure. What about all the web developers and businesses that couldn't operate without the internet? Should they just be ignored? 

Why do people find it so difficult to sympathise with a problem that they believe does not directly affect them?

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3 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

We can go with "horrendously uncaring" i suppose... :whistle:

And you wonder why people despise Trump and his supporters...

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Just now, ExpandMyMind said:

Sure. What about all the web developers and businesses that couldn't operate without the internet? Should they just be ignored? 

Why do people find it so difficult to sympathise with a problem that they believe does not directly affect them?

This s*** didn't even exist until a few years ago...

Hell in my opening post i said it was a good thing,i don't see the need of the excessive whining and b****ing about something that very likely isn't over and done with yet anyways!

Complaining about this to someone like me,is about the same as me complaining about the price of bread in Scotland...

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3 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Sure. What about all the web developers and businesses that couldn't operate without the internet? Should they just be ignored? 

Why do people find it so difficult to sympathise with a problem that they believe does not directly affect them?

There's no reasoning with those who don't have a heart for those who suffer.

I've become convinced in my discussions with these Trump supporters that it has less to nothing to do with not understanding how much these policies hurt innocent people, and more to do with the fact they don't care that it does. And there's no reasoning with apathy.

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1 minute ago, Aquila King said:

And you wonder why people despise Trump and his supporters...

I really don't...i can't recall me ever asking that question and unloading everyones favorite word TRUMP on me has very little meaning...

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1 minute ago, CrimsonKing said:

Complaining about this to someone like me,is about the same as me complaining about the price of bread in Scotland...

Did you skip the part in kindergarten when they taught you that kindness and empathy towards others, and sharing with those who are less fortunate then you was a good thing?

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Just now, CrimsonKing said:

This s*** didn't even exist until a few years ago...

Yes, and Comcast throttled Netflix until Netflix agreed to pay for higher bandwidth - which was basically extortion - and this is what, as far as I'm aware, lead to Net Neutrality being introduced as law. There was a clear cause and effect relationship. The law didn't just come out of nowhere. An abuse of power lead to a law being created, which is the reason for the creation of many laws. 

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2 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

I really don't...i can't recall me ever asking that question and unloading everyones favorite word TRUMP on me has very little meaning...

Don't care about that either it seems. Beautiful.

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Just now, Aquila King said:

Did you skip the part in kindergarten when they taught you that kindness and empathy towards others, and sharing with those who are less fortunate then you was a good thing?

Lmao so you go from "Trump lumping" and that didn't work so now we are going back to "heartless uncaring b***ard"...

This is rich...

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3 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Last Post Wins. 

I remember that!

 

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3 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Lmao so you go from "Trump lumping" and that didn't work so now we are going back to "heartless uncaring b***ard"...

This is rich...

You are a Trump supporter?

 

 

 

:lol:

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3 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Yes, and Comcast throttled Netflix until Netflix agreed to pay for higher bandwidth - which was basically extortion - and this is what, as far as I'm aware, lead to Net Neutrality being introduced as law. There was a clear cause and effect relationship. The law didn't just come out of nowhere. An abuse of power lead to a law being created, which is the reason for the creation of many laws. 

As is evident in my only other post in this thread. Canada did not have net neutrality until people raised enough of a stink that it forced the Government to act. Greedy ISPs (Internet Service Providers) throttled and controlled internet speeds as they saw fit because there was no oversight preventing them from doing so. The general rule of thumb with big corps is "if they can get away with it, they will try it."

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Just now, CrimsonKing said:

Lmao so you go from "Trump lumping" and that didn't work so now we are going back to "heartless uncaring b***ard"...

This is rich...

'that didn't work?'

Work to do what exactly? This isn't a game. The only goal I'm working toward is in reasoning with you.

I'm only trying to reason with you, but the problem doesn't seem to be in your ability to understand. You keep acknowledging the situation but insist you don't care. You don't care how it affects others, and only care about policies that affect you. That's essentially what you keep saying.

If that's the case then there is no reasoning with you since the problem lies in your ability to empathize with others, rather than to understand their hardships.

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2 minutes ago, .ZZ. said:

You are a Trump supporter?

 

 

 

:lol:

This place is truly fascinating!

"Hey you disagree with me huh?....well,well,well TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!" :lol:

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4 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

The general rule of thumb with big corps is "if they can get away with it, they will try it."

And people wonder why Millennials like myself overwhelmingly support socialism.

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Just now, Aquila King said:

'that didn't work?'

Work to do what exactly? This isn't a game. The only goal I'm working toward is in reasoning with you.

I'm only trying to reason with you, but the problem doesn't seem to be in your ability to understand. You keep acknowledging the situation but insist you don't care. You don't care how it affects others, and only care about policies that affect you. That's essentially what you keep saying.

If that's the case then there is no reasoning with you since the problem lies in your ability to empathize with others, rather than to understand their hardships.

No i keep saying LIFE WILL GO ON,ON PLANET EARTH WITH OR WITHOUT NN...GET IT? :huh:

How is NN working out for the homeless?...how about those dieing of disease in 3rd world countries?

Nope i have empathy and compassion i just don't see how you folks are lumping "NN" and not having a service you want into REAL human suffering!...when one really thinks about this complaining is some real 1st world problems!

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22 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

I've become convinced in my discussions with these Trump supporters that it has less to nothing to do with not understanding how much these policies hurt innocent people, and more to do with the fact they don't care that it does. And there's no reasoning with apathy.

Let's not make this about politics because, apart from the GOP, this transcends political lines. Citizens in general agree with Net Neutrality.

Also, I don't think that @CrimsonKing is a Trump supporter. A dirty conservative by the looks of things, yeah, but not a Trump supporter :lol: (Couldn't resist).

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2 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Oh I see the problem now. Big bad man took someone's favorite toy away.:lol:

If you don't care about this subject and clearly have nothing productive to offer to the discussion, then why do you keep posting? At this point all you're doing is flame-baiting. 

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3 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

And people wonder why Millennials like myself overwhelmingly support socialism.

Ideally the free market would allow for a new ISP that ran on a platform of "no throttling". However, because the big 3 (Bell, Telus, Rogers,) have a monopoly on the market, that needed competition isn't able to surface. Hence the need for the Gov't to step in and regulate.

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5 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

This place is truly fascinating!

"Hey you disagree with me huh?....well,well,well TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!" :lol:

Listen very closely bud, you are being taken to school! :lol:

 

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1 minute ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Let's not make this about politics because, apart from the GOP, this transcends political lines. 

You're right. Thanks.

I've gotten in trouble here before by speaking my mind on politics. Gots some rather strong opinions towards opposition.

So you're right, I'll refrain.

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Just now, ExpandMyMind said:

Let's not make this about politics because, apart from the GOP, this transcends political lines. 

Also, I don't think that @CrimsonKing is a Trump supporter. A dirty conservative by the looks of things, yeah, but not a Trump supporter :lol: (Couldn't resist).

Why you...SEAHAWKES FAN!...Yeah i said it what? :lol:

Actually i'm a Libertarian...somewhat conservative and somewhat liberal (if going by the original meaning,and not the revised "make a cause outta anything meaning") ;)

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4 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

If you don't care about this subject and clearly have nothing productive to offer to the discussion, then why do you keep posting? At this point all you're doing is flame-baiting. 

There's a method to my madness and a point I'm making. 

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