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Human clones in two years!?!

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I just found this at Yahoo news.....

Cult Head Predicts Human Clone in Two Years

Fri Feb 15, 6:10 AM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - The Canadian leader of a cult which believes in UFOs predicted on Thursday a human clone would be born within two years, despite the best efforts of the U.S. government to block such Frankenstein-style activities.

 

Fifty five-year-old former sports reporter Claud Vorilhon, now known as cult chief Rael, has said a program by the human cloning company he founded was back on track to clone a person after pressure from the U.S. government stopped a first attempt last year.

Rael said the company, Clonaid, was still in the process of recreating a terminally-ill man at a secret location despite abandoning its U.S. laboratory in the wake of a March warning from the United States Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) that it would not allow experiments on cloning humans.

"The process is going well," Rael told journalists. "A baby will be born 12 to 24 months from now."

Scientists have cloned a number of animals, including Dolly the sheep, the world's first cloned mammal, and more recently a pet cat from Texas called "Cc".

But ethical reservations have so far kept the reality of human cloning out of mainstream science and last year the United States .

The emergence of medical complications with Dolly, who has developed premature arthritis, has also cast doubt over the safety of dabbling in what is normally seen as the sole preserve of God or Mother Nature.

Dressed in white and with his hair swept up in a small knot, Rael said fears of the human cloning producing "a monster" or "Frankenstein" were unfounded because faulty cells would be discarded in the Clonaid process.

"My mission is to prepare human beings for future technology," said the Raelian leader, a self-confessed lover of the Internet and video games who was in London to promote his new book.

"Life expectancy is now 90 years, at the beginning of the century is was 40 years...once we have applied this technology human beings will soon live at 700 years," he said.   :st

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Well, it would be nice to live 700 years, but are they thinking about all the diseases that come with age? You can always "fix" old people but they are still very old.. The mind ages, but the body doesn't, that must go wrong..

"Do you really want to live forever?", Alphaville

Odin Supreme :s9

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Sad, but I can remember my granny in her mid 80's saying shortly before her heart gave out that she still felt 18.  She was a wee minx!  

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I could understand if this was a perfect world, but who would want to live anywhere near 700 years in this world?

[glow=blue,2,300]Homer :sj

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I really don't understand all the hubbub  :sk about cloning. How would cloning a person's body extend that person's lifetime. Have they leaned to transplant consciousness or soul yet?  :sj

Do people really believe that a cloned body is just an empty shell waiting for enhabitance?   That's absurd!

Dalia   :s2

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you've hit the nail on the head Dalia, you may *eventually* be able to record somebodies memories and experiences and transplant that into a clone of that person, but although they may act the same and remember the same things, they are still two different people. The only way clones can extend life is by providing bits for transplants, but along that road you'll only live as long as your brain does...  

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Oh, and how ever imperfect the world is, i would love to live till i'm 700 as long as 600 of those aren't as a senile, bedridden, near-corpse. If youth too could be extended then i would jump at the chance. It may well happen some day but i fear i will be a millenia dead before it does (there go my dreams of immortality... back to plan 'A' - being immortal by being remembered for having the most purplely hair ever. Now that i should be able to manage!)

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PURPLE,

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i suppose, but freezing yourself is one hell of a bet...

will mankind ever get the technology, if they do why would they wanna unfreeze me anyway and what if i'm amoung the first to be thawed and thet mess it up...

nope immortality please! Now, where do i sign?

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Still waiting for the imortality contract to sign  ;D

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             One scientist said it was risky because of the possibility of birth defects.  I thought that was one of the reasons for cloning.  :s9

           

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This question has just been asked on another topic just today, but find it valid on this topic as well. If the baby is confirmed to have been cloned, does the cloned baby have a soul?

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            These threads are so intertwined,  I forget which one I'm on!!   :D

             I believe,  like Felisha says about twins,  that each body is an individual person,  even if they look exactly like someone else - I personally don't think I could handle looking at someone who looks like me,  where I did not have any involvement in their creation!  Can't they clone someone without their knowledge?  ???

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KC,

I can't answer that because I have never had the interest of looking into it, but I must say I do agree with you and Felisha regarding each and every individual having their own mind/soul etc etc.

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Yes people could make clones out of you without your knowledge, but to do that they would have to get some sort of abject such as a hair with cells on the end that are whole to be able to do it.

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The soul is such an abstract concept, whos to say any of us has one - or if they exist at all? I prefer to use the term sentience - i think therefore i am. I can prove i have sentience, but how do i prove i have a soul?

BTW i know i have soul though, 'cos i can dance with the best of them  ;D

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             PS,  How can we possibly stay serious about this with comments like that?  :s2

              (but can you strut?)   :su

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oh yes.

Well to be precise i'm a master at the "Gothic-two-step"

a dance which involves two steps forwards then two steps back all the while waving your hands about like a pretentious git, looking for all the world like you're trying to screw in an invisible light bulb.

So it looks more impresive than it sounds, OK?

:D

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... as for being sensible, i have a disclaimer at the bottom of each of my posts  :)

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              :s2    So noted!   :s2

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Italian Claims Success in Human Cloning

Reuters

TOKYO (April 6) -  An Italian fertility specialist has claimed success in using human cloning technology to bring about a pregnancy, the first such case in the world if successful, Japanese media reported on Saturday.

Based on an Itar-Tass news agency report out of Abu Dhabi, the reports said Severino Antinori made the announcement on Friday in the United Arab Emirates, noting that the pregnant woman was now in her eighth week.

Antinori did not reveal the identity of the woman nor the details of the process by which she became pregnant, but said 5,000 couples took part in the project, according to the reports.

The Italian physician last year announced his intention to become the first scientist to clone a human being, but the idea has met outrage around the world, despite the promised benefits of some avenues of research.

Antinori's move prompted the United Nations to set up a panel last year aimed at drafting an international treaty to ban the cloning of human beings.

The treaty drafting process is expected to take years, but Friday's announcement is likely to give more urgency to the debate, which began in February.

Antinori has been working with Panos Zavos, a former professor at the University of Kentucky in the United States, to clone fetuses for infertile couples.

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                The UN committee can sit on their laurels and debate this 'til they're blue,  but in the meantime.....that baby is coming!!  :s01

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Along a similar line of thought, designer babies...

The paper today ran the article of a deaf lesbian couple that insisted that their baby was born deaf.  

Here’s a relating link

Who are they to be dictating what disorders a baby should have?  >:(

Tommy

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